Rumor roundup: the when and what of Windows Mobile 7

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bigmig

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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by TheFerenc:<BR><BR> There are those of us that don't want a finger friendly candy interface, and for us, the only real option in the PIM space is symbian or windows mobile.<BR> </div></BLOCKQUOTE><BR><BR>Nice, there are some people still living in the pre-Jan 9 2007 world. But why stop with simply eschewing the "finger friendly candy interfaces?" Real men doing real business don't want these babyed down, resource hogging, moronic graphical user interfaces either. For us, the only real options in the PIM space are DOS or tcsh!
 
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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Abdominal Snoman:<BR>I hope they nail it and windows mobile stays relevant. The only other smart phone that really interest me is the nokia N900, but I'm not willing to drop sprint to get a different phone, and am concerned by the battery life. My main love affair with windows mobile is the power efficiency. I don't know of any other device that can do as much, but still be expected to last an entire impromptu weekend activity without a charger. I can get a week of use on my phone running windows mobile 6.5, but when I boot it into android 1.6 the battery dies at about 30 hours. I'm just going to have to see how long I can keep putting newer cooked up versions of windows mobile on my 2.5 year old HTC Touch and see what's out there eventually. </div></BLOCKQUOTE><BR>I have to say, I've had the Verizon HTC Touch Pro 2 for a couple of months, and just love it to death. WinMob 6.1 still, but the HTC TouchFLO shell goes a long way to make those quick 15-second interactions smoother.<BR><BR>Only thing it's really missing is a flash for the camera
 
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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">I have to say, I've had the Verizon HTC Touch Pro 2 for a couple of months, and just love it to death. WinMob 6.1 still, but the HTC TouchFLO shell goes a long way to make those quick 15-second interactions smoother. </div></BLOCKQUOTE><BR><BR>unfortunately, Windows Mobile 6.x is kind of like "linux on the desktop." The Today screen overlays work ok, but far too often you have to venture into the unfriendly guts to accomplish certain things.
 
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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by bigmig:<BR><BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by TheFerenc:<BR><BR> There are those of us that don't want a finger friendly candy interface, and for us, the only real option in the PIM space is symbian or windows mobile.<BR> </div></BLOCKQUOTE><BR><BR>Nice, there are some people still living in the pre-Jan 9 2007 world. But why stop with simply eschewing the "finger friendly candy interfaces?" Real men doing real business don't want these babyed down, resource hogging, moronic graphical user interfaces either. For us, the only real options in the PIM space are DOS or tcsh! </div></BLOCKQUOTE><BR>Welcome to the real world where there's not a linear order to help us chose what's best. Welcome to the gray. Where there's pros and cons to each. Touch screen interface is not in every way superior.
 
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bigmig

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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by eric_of_earth:<BR> Touch screen interface is not in every way superior. </div></BLOCKQUOTE><BR><BR>Neither is the GUI. But it's superior in enough ways that you don't see any mainstream computers sold today without a GUI OS. Likewise, the non-touch mobile OS field shrinks more and more every day.<BR><BR>I will bet you good money that WinMo 7 (or whatever they end up calling it) will be based around a touch interface. That leaves only RIM (which is already heading in the touch direction) and Symbian (which I have no clue what they are doing) as the last non-touch contenders.
 
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I've used all iterations of Windows Mobile since when it was PocektPC 2002 and I know it quite well, I know it's strenghts and weaknesses. The iPhone is not an alternative, not if you do some serious work with your device: no background execution (last time I checked there was no way to edit a Word document -for instance- during a phone call -you may want to check some document relevant for the call-), zero control on your mobile data connection, very limited Bluetooth support, no file manager, no ability to customize the user interface... The interface of the iPhone is modern, works well and it's fast, that's true. But I take Windows Mobile over iPhone any time. So let's recognize those aspects.<BR><BR>However MS has failed to keep up with the times in the interface area. They've missed several oportunities, while Apple and now Android have been able to take advantage of them. Now those two systems have good basements to further improve their systems. Microsoft will have a hard time to regain market share in the consumer space.
 
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As to Symbian and touch, the newest Qt framework which will most likely be used in newer Symbian based phones, has multitouch capabilities if the hardware supports it. With QML and other new features, Qt should be on a par with any of the new phone application frameworks. (Nokia recently acquired Trolltech, the developers of Qt.)
 
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Xikilm

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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Kressilac:<BR><BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by dnjake:<BR>At the 2008 Microsoft partner's conference, Microsoft heavily pushed the future of Windows Mobile. But at last years conference, Microsoft downplayed Windows Mobile. During all the recent buzz about different phones, there has not been much sign of Microsoft spin promoting any kind of vision for Windows Mobile. That reality suggests little chance of any near term major upgrade of Windows Mobile. It seems likely they have decided that some major additional work is needed for Windows mobile to become competitive. I don't think there is much question about them making the effort to do the work. They will stick with it even if it takes them several more iterations to succeed. Even with poor results, they will make enough to cover the development costs. </div></BLOCKQUOTE><BR><BR>My wife and friends all have iPhones. I have a Touch Pro 2 and wouldn't trade it for an iPhone to save my life. I hate iTunes. It's one step above AOL's software in my opinion. My HTC Touch Pro 2 does everything her iPhone does and has far better contact/calendar/email support through my company's Exchange server.<BR><BR>I'm one of those avid fans. Sure, WiMO 6.5 has its shortcomings but when combined with HTC's TouchFlo 3D, most of them never get encountered. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>I am with Kressilac on this. I love my Touch Pro 2. Add a cooked rom and it is completely touch friendly.
 
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Xikilm

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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Jim Z:<BR><BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">I have to say, I've had the Verizon HTC Touch Pro 2 for a couple of months, and just love it to death. WinMob 6.1 still, but the HTC TouchFLO shell goes a long way to make those quick 15-second interactions smoother. </div></BLOCKQUOTE><BR><BR>unfortunately, Windows Mobile 6.x is kind of like "linux on the desktop." The Today screen overlays work ok, but far too often you have to venture into the unfriendly guts to accomplish certain things. </div></BLOCKQUOTE><BR><BR>Most of the good cooked roms are much more than just a today screen overlay. It is very rare that I need to use a stylus for anything on my phone. When I do it is usually because I am using some sort of legacy application not the supposed unfriendly guts. Here is an example of a fairly recent cooked rom: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=puwUptv3oLM
 
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