Report: Bitcoin money laundering suspect spared from prison poison plot
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Ah, yes the Bitcoin commnity, made up of hodlers, daytarders, scepluators, and, of course, scmamers.
Alternative punchline: “commnity” is not a misspelling. “u” should not be anywhere in or near it.
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Which coincidentally is the FPS you get when you try running Crysis on a crypto mining rig.
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Eh? If he was arrested on an American warrant & then had the validity of his extradition to the U.S.A. confirmed by the Greek supreme court, how was Vinnik’s extradition to the United States blocked?
Greece may give him time to appeal to the ECHR but that doesn't mean that his extradition to the USA is blocked, just that he still has an appeal available.
Or is this just another example of RT's doublespeak?
Greece may give him time to appeal to the ECHR but that doesn't mean that his extradition to the USA is blocked, just that he still has an appeal available.
Or is this just another example of RT's doublespeak?
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Yep - shame on Ars for just repeating what Sputnik said without checking any of the facts.
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So a two shots to the back of the head suicide verdict, according to Moscow Coroners.
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Seems odd to refer to btc-e as shady while calling Gox a market leader. Certainly there was a lot of shadiness going around, but I would've thought Gox was the uncontested champion in that regard.
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I think they are a lot more worried about him getting extradicted to the United States. Russia wanting to extrdite him and his offer of cooperation with Russian prosecutors is a ploy to avoid extradition to the US.
He was laundering money for Russian organized crime with ties to the Russian government. They aren't worried about him being extradicted to Russia.
He was laundering money for Russian organized crime with ties to the Russian government. They aren't worried about him being extradicted to Russia.
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Now that RT has been thoroughly outed as a Putin mouthpiece....they aren't even trying anymore to cover up their true views.
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You say that as if it were ever viewed as a legitimate news source.
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He's Russian, in Greek custody on a US warrant, with both the US and Russia wanting him extradited.
He better call Kim Dotcom and ask for the same lawyer.
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Reading the article, the US wants him extradited to US soil to face justice....Greece is refusing, and Russia would like to have him back on home soil (most likely to have him befall an unfortunate accident while on a high balcony). This incident is perhaps revealing corrupt Russian influences within the Greek government.
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This is the bit that seems odd to me. It's hard to believe that he would survive for long in Russia if he had links to organised crime and they thought he might talk about who else was involved.
If anything it should be easier to intimidate him into silence if he's in Russia where the authorities may be unable or unwilling to protect him from other prisoners.
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Sputnik does not exactly count as a reliable outlet. It is more interesting to disassemble what they say to understand what the Putin gang wants the picture to be, than to consider it as useful info. There is reason to assume anything has happened here at all if they are the only source.
Seems the underlying issue here is whether he should go to the US or to Russia. Both countries are trying to have him extradited.
Seems the underlying issue here is whether he should go to the US or to Russia. Both countries are trying to have him extradited.
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I was confused as well, because the Ars article does not explicitly say anything about a Russian extradition, just an American extradition.
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For all the faults of the US justice system (and I think that we would all agree that it, like every system, has faults - some glaring), you seem to be extremely prejudiced against it because... Why?
We could argue until the cows come home about which country has the best justice system, and where the United States ranks in that hierarchy; but, by the same margin, any reasonable observer would agree that the United States' system is far from the worst.
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For those who are confused I think this is the order of events.
The USA issued a warrant for Vinnik's arrest and so Greek police detained Vinnik in July 2017.
Both the USA and Russia then sought to extradite him.
* The USA accuses him of laundering $4 billion worth of bitcoins through BTC-e.
* Russia accuses him of being involved in a 667,000-ruble ($11,500) fraud.
Greece's lower courts found both extradition requests to be valid so The Supreme Court decided the case.
In December 2017 The Supreme Court ruled in favour of the USA's extradition request. Russia claims this is unjust as Vinnik is a Russian citizen.
In January 2018 Vinnik's lawyer said they had requested political asylum in Greece. He also said a complaint was being prepared to the European Court of Human Rights (which Russia backed).
I'm not sure what's happened since January but these things do take a long time.
The USA issued a warrant for Vinnik's arrest and so Greek police detained Vinnik in July 2017.
Both the USA and Russia then sought to extradite him.
* The USA accuses him of laundering $4 billion worth of bitcoins through BTC-e.
* Russia accuses him of being involved in a 667,000-ruble ($11,500) fraud.
Greece's lower courts found both extradition requests to be valid so The Supreme Court decided the case.
In December 2017 The Supreme Court ruled in favour of the USA's extradition request. Russia claims this is unjust as Vinnik is a Russian citizen.
In January 2018 Vinnik's lawyer said they had requested political asylum in Greece. He also said a complaint was being prepared to the European Court of Human Rights (which Russia backed).
I'm not sure what's happened since January but these things do take a long time.
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There is a reason why in the history of mankind the creation and flow of currency has always been firmly under control of the State. Bitcoin never even stood a chance. Libertarian is just a fancy kind of anarchy.
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Yep. I was saying this from the get go "the powers to be" that have stepped on our economic throats for centuries now would have never allowed such a currency to exist in a meaningful way.
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Not that the US has anything to boast about these days, but it seems like Russia is just one big crime state. I feel sorry for the small society of scientists, artists, etc. who have to endure their country's actions (just like here in the US).
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Violent crime rate in the United States has dropped dramatically since 1990 so I think we can boast quite a bit, although it has picked up slightly in the last few years but only back to the 2012 levels which were also dramatically lower than the 90's and even the early-mid 00's.
Russia is "scarier" if not for the simple fact of the state sponsored aspect of it all.
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I don't disagree with your analysis but I would also say when Americans see Europeans being arrested for speech they think the same as far as draconian goes... outright scary in my opinion. There is plenty of BS on both sides of the Ocean to fill a vomit bag.
I think we can agree that it's not on the level of Russia where assassinations are apparently acceptable.
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Unjust prosecution.
Although that asylum request has to be accepted, which might be difficult.
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Of course they do. Putin wants those billions in bitcoin to add to his personal collection.
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Russia has actually cleaned up remarkably since Putin first took power. Still a long way to go, but nothing even remotely close to the wild west crime haven that it was in the 90's under Yeltsin.
As others have pointed out, this article is terribly confusing. The underlying background to the case is that this guy was found hiding out in Greece and that both the US and Russia have requested his extradition. Since he is a Russian national and his crimes were against a Japanese company, you'd think Russia would have the strongest case after Japan (which for whatever reason hasn't asked for him). But seems like some of his co-conspirators from Russia are trying to silence him before he makes it back to Russia for trial.
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I am not shure what you are exactly talking about when you say that people are arrested for free speech. To be honest when it concerns hate speech I probably disagree with you that it should be free. But I am not shure anyone has gone to jail for that
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