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[numerobis]

Israel can either be a religious ethno-state or it can be democratic. There is no world in which it is both. And the moment it decides to invade other nations and subjugate other people, it firmly ends any pretense of the nature of representation within its government. I would greatly welcome genuine democratic reformation of Israel, just as I would of my native United States.

Calling criticism of Israel anti-Semitic is, in fact, anti-Semitic, because it implies that Israel and Judaism are one and the same. One is a system of belief held by individuals. The other is a nation state.

People have rights, while states have privileges. Arguments to the contrary have been routinely made by people whose agenda always sits downstream from the violation of other people's rights.

The IHRA definition of antisemitism is pretty clearly calling any criticism of Israel antisemitic. That’s how it’s applied, anyway.

It is notable that despite that definition and its general application in even the recent past (as in, months ago), the discussion here isn’t being shut down. The genocide in Gaza started a shift in public opinion, and the war against Iran and Lebanon has confirmed it: Israel is a rogue state conducting genocide and must be (at the very least) criticized.

Of course, that’s coincided with a big increase in actual antisemitic attacks. The Nazis are thrilled with the Israeli government conflating the state with the religion and ethnicity; it helps them recruit. And of course the Israeli right knows what it’s doing too; the more Jews feel threatened, the longer they can stay in power to "protect" them.

 

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Israel can either be a religious ethno-state or it can be democratic. There is no world in which it is both. And the moment it decides to invade other nations and subjugate other people, it firmly ends any pretense of the nature of representation within its government. I would greatly welcome genuine democratic reformation of Israel, just as I would of my native United States.

Calling criticism of Israel anti-Semitic is, in fact, anti-Semitic, because it implies that Israel and Judaism are one and the same. One is a system of belief held by individuals. The other is a nation state.

People have rights, while states have privileges. Arguments to the contrary have been routinely made by people whose agenda always sits downstream from the violation of other people's rights.

Your point is solid but is ignored by the people who wrote the IHRA Definition of anti-semitism.

Your point also is ignored by the many voices who, based on the IHRA definition, whitewash Israel's actions.

I'm not getting into criticism of Israel. The case before the International Court that Israel is committing a genocide or genocides, is still under way and it will be years before the Court hands down its findings.

But if you believe the IHRA definition is wrong, because a couple of its examples go beyond the actual definition and instead provide a shelter for rogue nation-state military and commercial actions, then perhaps write to the IHRA in Berlin about it.

At worst, your concerns may become a matter of public record, visible to Mossad and Palantir.

At best, they might acknowledge their conflation of Israel, Jewry, and anti-semitism has a price to it, measurable in how high one can stack the bodies.