Meta alleges NSO violated spyware injunction with new WhatsApp attacks
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It's almost like your company shouldn't exist or something. Almost as bad an excuse as "companies exist to make money".
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Is this like Somali pirates claiming that all their income is derived from hijacking, hence it should not be blocked? I don't see how spyware is legal at all, aren't they liable to the device owners every single time?
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At this point the federal government won't do a thing against the NSO group because the Israeli government effectively has the entire U.S. by the short and curlies. While the "Pentagon raises Israel spy threat to 'critical' level", the DoD is synchronizing "cooperative efforts" between the US and Israel through Section 224 of the Fiscal Year 2027 National Defense Authorization Act (NDAA).
It's really hard not to be cynical and not declare the US the United States of Israel, thanks to superpacs practically spending the money we give Israel in our own political elections. We paid for our own takeover.
NSO is quietly giving us the finger and daring us to do something about it and we won't.
It's really hard not to be cynical and not declare the US the United States of Israel, thanks to superpacs practically spending the money we give Israel in our own political elections. We paid for our own takeover.
NSO is quietly giving us the finger and daring us to do something about it and we won't.
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Israel generally acts with impunity, and the government-connected businesses like NSO certainly have inherited that same trait. They will continue doing whatever they please, and one would hope that at some point we'd treat the threat from their intelligence community at least as seriously as we do from other foreign actors. I don't see that happening anytime soon though.
https://www.nytimes.com/2026/06/06/...ees-growing-espionage-threat-from-israel.html
https://www.nytimes.com/2026/06/06/...ees-growing-espionage-threat-from-israel.html
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Why wouldn't they continue to defy those courts? What are they going to do? Issue an injunction? A sternly worded decision? Frown upon NSO's actions? Because let's be real about what the politics of this situation actually allows: the US posturing and not much else.
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What's the Kalshi Bet on anyone in the Government actually enforcing the injunction? Seeing as any other ones aren't worth the paper they are printed on.
Also, it isn't a great sell on your spyware capabilities if you are getting found out. Either they aren't that great at their job or it shows that Facebook knows WAY too much about people and can "out" professional-grade spyware.
Also, it isn't a great sell on your spyware capabilities if you are getting found out. Either they aren't that great at their job or it shows that Facebook knows WAY too much about people and can "out" professional-grade spyware.
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Israel and NSO and Pegasus work hand in hand with US secret police. NSO front people were once a posh UK couple then it was sold to the Oregon State pension fund of all people. Shell company after shell company. Israel currently shelters the Mexican salesman who killed 43 Mexican students and then tapped their grieving parents phones with Pegasus. He fled to Canada and then Israel to avoid extradition. Netanyahu doesn’t give a crap about Trump or the US he can buy their elections with his Hasbara fund. Israeli Pegasus has targeted for death numerous ‘dissidents’ around the world . Stephanie Kirchgaessner of the Guardian UK has been documenting the sordid saga for years.
https://www.theguardian.com/news/ar...-spyware-leak-suggests?CMP=Share_iOSApp_Other
https://www.theguardian.com/news/ar...-spyware-leak-suggests?CMP=Share_iOSApp_Other
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That's how the legal system works. The other alternative is to go full William Gibson and hire a team of ninjas to take out NSO headquarters, and we aren't there yet.
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yep, the USA is now a vassal state. Powerless, weak, and starting useless wars plus spying on its own xitizens (sic) to try to compensate for its neutered status. So Great, right?
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A court can award damages and order that payments from an American customer or that otherwise pass through American jurisdiction be seized to cover those damages.
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Wouldnt be surprised if Zuck's children end up dead as Israel sends a reminder of whos in charge.
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It sucks that the judge reduced the jury verdict from $167 million to $4 million.
Maybe their flaunting the court order will qualify as "particularly egregious" now? Though I doubt NSO will ever pay a penny of the judgment, given their ties to US 3-letter agencies.
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So... Nothing. Their customers are probably all governments and shell companies. And what they can do vs. what they will do are worlds apart. Pegasus works against judges too.
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Israel can either be a religious ethno-state or it can be democratic. There is no world in which it is both. And the moment it decides to invade other nations and subjugate other people, it firmly ends any pretense of the nature of representation within its government. I would greatly welcome genuine democratic reformation of Israel, just as I would of my native United States.
Calling criticism of Israel anti-Semitic is, in fact, anti-Semitic, because it implies that Israel and Judaism are one and the same. One is a system of belief held by individuals. The other is a nation state.
People have rights, while states have privileges. Arguments to the contrary have been routinely made by people whose agenda always sits downstream from the violation of other people's rights.
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Facebook is at least as dangerous as NSO and AIPAC and should probably demonstrate that to the NSO directly, but yes, this is a necessary shot across the bow in stupid rich people land first.
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Instead of fixing bugs in their software, Facebook/Meta/Whatsapp sued NSO to ask them to stop exploiting them?
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Fuck NSO and Facebook both straight to bankruptcy and hell, with their executives following that path too. These are outright evil people.
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Given the new defense authorization act has even tighter integrations with Israeli defense and companies this will probably have our govt pressuring meta to drop this
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They push their modified whatsapp from whatsapps own servers ? and repeatedly do it when meta tries to stop it?
i know nro breaks a lot of stuff but Meta is incapable of stopping them from pushing rogue apps from their own servers ?
i know nro breaks a lot of stuff but Meta is incapable of stopping them from pushing rogue apps from their own servers ?
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As I am no fan of Meta, this the enemy of my enemy is my friend and at the end of the day. And NSO may try to hide behind government state this or that. But Mata has top million dollar lawyers, that I have learned as I age they basically control the the world. So my popcorn was getting empty anyways.
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I vote for cut off all foreign aid and military cooperation with Israel until they learn to play nice.
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what makes you think the majority of Israelis don't back invading other nations and subjugating their people?
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Just a reminder that Meta has deployed its own spyware on countless websites and in countless 3rd party apps, as well as in its own apps. I guess that the main difference is that Meta's spyware is mostly consensual and NSO group's isn't. Both companies are despicable.
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