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Gamespot review is up. Lower score than Assassin's Creed...probably not what people were expecting. It sounds good but too unpolished to be GOTY material.<BR><BR>Still, I can't wait to see it for myself.
Well it says to story is really good, which I think we knew it would be. Im sold. the write ups on Penny Arcade about this game, 3 total, that accompany comics are fairly good and I feel/hope they will be an accurate representation.
It gets plus quite a few points for being more or less right up my alley (ameriRPG with excellent writing), so there's virtually no way I'm not buying it, warts and all.
Seems to be averaging out right around the same as Uncharted (8.5s-9.5s), that is, slightly below Bioshock or SMG (9.5s-10s). <BR><BR>A little disappointing to be honest, but it sounds like most of the problems should be fixed up (or are fixable via a patch) by the time the PC version rolls out (UI and combat) in 1-2 years.
I thought there were some legitimate gripes in the GameSpot review... but I don't care. I'll still be picking the game up tomorrow. Looks simply amazing and I loves me a good story.<BR><BR>The sand worm (thresher maw) battles sounded really bad in particular - but maybe it's something that was fixed between the review copy and the gold master. Here's hoping.
For what it's worth (nothing, I know) GameSpot reviewed Uncharted a 8.0, and I think you enjoyed that a whole lot, so maybe a 8.5 from them is better than it sounds...
Oh yes, Uncharted, barring perhaps Portal, is the best game I've played this year. Mass Effect is the only thing left to challenge it, in my opinion... and given my love affair with Bioware RPGs, there's a good chance they'll take the top spot for me. I'm definitely a Bioware fanboy and Mass Effect is the real reason I bought a 360 during October last year (Gears of War and Dead Rising gave me the excuse but Mass Effect has always been the reason).<BR><BR>I actually agreed with GameSpot about Assassin's Creed - I loved that game. But they're also host to the worst review of the year in my opinion - their review for Ratchet and Clank Future: Tools of Destruction. I think my favorite review site (despite how often I disagree with them) is actually Eurogamer. They're very consistent, unlike so many other sites. And even when I disagree with their scores, I can still find a lot of useful information in the actual body of their reviews to help me judge whether or not I'd actually like a game.
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Originally, I was going to buy a 360 for this one. As it is, economics (and my fear of defective consoles) are preventing that from happening. -- View image here: http://episteme.meincmagazine.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_frown.gif -- I guess I'll wait for the (hopefully inevitable) PC port or until I manage to win the lottery or some such.
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<br><br>The console comes with a 1-year all-inclusive warranty and a 3-year RRoD warranty. Plus you can buy an extended warranty direct from MS or from the store you got it from. If that is not enough to assuage your paranoia, then you'd better stop buying consumer electronics entirely.
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<br><br>The console comes with a 1-year all-inclusive warranty and a 3-year RRoD warranty. Plus you can buy an extended warranty direct from MS or from the store you got it from. If that is not enough to assuage your paranoia, then you'd better stop buying consumer electronics entirely.
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by morello:<BR>Seems to be averaging out right around the same as Uncharted (8.5s-9.5s), that is, slightly below Bioshock or SMG (9.5s-10s). <BR><BR>A little disappointing to be honest, but it sounds like most of the problems should be fixed up (or are fixable via a patch) by the time the PC version rolls out (UI and combat) in 1-2 years. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>Wow... 1-2 years sounds pretty optimistic.<BR><BR>Still, I'm sure there are issues that need a patch. As long as they really raise the bar for RPGs, I can forgive quite a lot. Especially if they listen to valid complaints.
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<br><br>The console comes with a 1-year all-inclusive warranty and a 3-year RRoD warranty. Plus you can buy an extended warranty direct from MS or from the store you got it from. If that is not enough to assuage your paranoia, then you'd better stop buying consumer electronics entirely. </div>
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<br>Sure, sure. It's just that every single 360 I've had the pleasure of dealing with has gone belly up within that time period or thereabouts. Not just one or two, all of them. Admittedly, this is only a sample size of about six, but that's still pretty insane. Still, I'd rather not derail this thread about this issue.<br><br>The real reason I'm not buying one is because I just can't afford it. The paranoia, as always, is more or less irrational.
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<div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by chintznibbles:<br>Originally, I was going to buy a 360 for this one. As it is, economics (and my fear of defective consoles) are preventing that from happening. -- View image here: http://episteme.meincmagazine.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_frown.gif -- I guess I'll wait for the (hopefully inevitable) PC port or until I manage to win the lottery or some such. </div>
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<br><br>The console comes with a 1-year all-inclusive warranty and a 3-year RRoD warranty. Plus you can buy an extended warranty direct from MS or from the store you got it from. If that is not enough to assuage your paranoia, then you'd better stop buying consumer electronics entirely. </div>
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<br>Sure, sure. It's just that every single 360 I've had the pleasure of dealing with has gone belly up within that time period or thereabouts. Not just one or two, all of them. Admittedly, this is only a sample size of about six, but that's still pretty insane. Still, I'd rather not derail this thread about this issue.<br><br>The real reason I'm not buying one is because I just can't afford it. The paranoia, as always, is more or less irrational.
Going to try and pick this up today even though I already have so many unplayed/unfinished games(have at least 30 games that I haven't even touched.) GAH!!!!
Just a head's up, the game is selling as part of Dell Canada's days of gaming deal (as I'd hoped), for 44.99CAD.<BR><BR>For those of you who were wanting it but didn't jump on preorders.<BR><BR>At 15$ off, it was an easy decision for me, I should have it by the weekend, though I shouldn't play till December 17th, what with finishing university properly and all ... I might just give it a look see !
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</blockquote> No doubt. -- View image here: http://episteme.meincmagazine.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_frown.gif -- I pounded through Assassin's Creed with the dedication of a junkie so it wouldn't interfere with Mass Effect, but I still haven't finished Eternal Sonata or Hellgate: London (or Bioshock, or Overlord). :/
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</blockquote> No doubt. -- View image here: http://episteme.meincmagazine.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_frown.gif -- I pounded through Assassin's Creed with the dedication of a junkie so it wouldn't interfere with Mass Effect, but I still haven't finished Eternal Sonata or Hellgate: London (or Bioshock, or Overlord). :/
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</blockquote> No doubt. -- View image here: http://episteme.meincmagazine.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_frown.gif -- I pounded through Assassin's Creed with the dedication of a junkie so it wouldn't interfere with Mass Effect, but I still haven't finished Eternal Sonata or Hellgate: London (or Bioshock, or Overlord). :/ </div>
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<br>I still haven't finished Eternal Sonata either. It's a good game though! -- View image here: http://episteme.meincmagazine.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif -- I love it.<br><br>Today is going to be a looooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooong day at work thinking about Mass Effect -- View image here: http://episteme.meincmagazine.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_frown.gif -- I have it on pre-order from my local Gamestop (ugh, I dislike them)
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</blockquote> No doubt. -- View image here: http://episteme.meincmagazine.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_frown.gif -- I pounded through Assassin's Creed with the dedication of a junkie so it wouldn't interfere with Mass Effect, but I still haven't finished Eternal Sonata or Hellgate: London (or Bioshock, or Overlord). :/ </div>
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<br>I still haven't finished Eternal Sonata either. It's a good game though! -- View image here: http://episteme.meincmagazine.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif -- I love it.<br><br>Today is going to be a looooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooong day at work thinking about Mass Effect -- View image here: http://episteme.meincmagazine.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_frown.gif -- I have it on pre-order from my local Gamestop (ugh, I dislike them)
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by onkeljonas:<BR><BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by morello:<BR>Seems to be averaging out right around the same as Uncharted (8.5s-9.5s), that is, slightly below Bioshock or SMG (9.5s-10s). <BR><BR>A little disappointing to be honest, but it sounds like most of the problems should be fixed up (or are fixable via a patch) by the time the PC version rolls out (UI and combat) in 1-2 years. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>Wow... 1-2 years sounds pretty optimistic.<BR><BR>Still, I'm sure there are issues that need a patch. As long as they really raise the bar for RPGs, I can forgive quite a lot. Especially if they listen to valid complaints. </div></BLOCKQUOTE><BR>Can't they patch consoles now that they've got hard drives in them?<BR><BR>I'd rather see it on PC myself, but I don't want to wait <B>that</B> long ...
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Deviation:<BR>The sand worm (thresher maw) battles sounded really bad in particular - but maybe it's something that was fixed between the review copy and the gold master. Here's hoping. </div></BLOCKQUOTE><BR><BR>Unfortunately, no. That said, I'm not sure how many thresher maw battles there actually are; I've only seen one at 13 hours in or so.
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Lord_Byron:<BR><BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Deviation:<BR>The sand worm (thresher maw) battles sounded really bad in particular - but maybe it's something that was fixed between the review copy and the gold master. Here's hoping. </div></BLOCKQUOTE><BR><BR>Unfortunately, no. That said, I'm not sure how many thresher maw battles there actually are; I've only seen one at 13 hours in or so. </div></BLOCKQUOTE><BR><BR>I had the one so far. It killed me out of surprise the first time. Then I killed it. It wasnt that hard. Just keep moving and use your cannon. When that overheats use the machine gun till it cools down, then go back to cannon.<BR><BR>PSA for everyone. ROTATE YOUR SAVES.<BR><BR>I had a showstopping bug the other day. Corrupted save. When I loaded it just had my character in a black area running around in the void of nothing. Tried to load again and the same thing. And again, same thing. I had to go back to an earlier save and redo about an hour of the game.
I hit my first wall. I boarded the freighter in the Hades Gamma that has the biotic terrorists and they just whupped my ass.<BR><BR>I tried about 6 times to beat them and just got murdered. <BR><BR>Is anyone else daunted by the size of this? While not every planet is explorable...it's like you go to a new sector. Within that sector is usually 3-5 systems, and within each system is 4-6 individual planets.
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It is sitting on my desk at work. 6 hours before I leave work. -- View image here: http://episteme.meincmagazine.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_frown.gif --
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<br>That's brutal. At least I don't have my copy in hand, looking at it, while I'm sitting in my cubicle.<br><br>If I were able to actually hold it, I don't think I'd get any work done.
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<br>That's brutal. At least I don't have my copy in hand, looking at it, while I'm sitting in my cubicle.<br><br>If I were able to actually hold it, I don't think I'd get any work done.
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its about time a game with a real story line is out. It's too bad some games sites don't seem to embrace how much more a good story telling experience out weighs everythign else in a game.<BR><BR>The games i remember the most are the ones with good stories weather it be a shooter or RPG.
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by pcgeek86:<BR>Is it possible that your hard disk has a problem, or are corrupted saves common on the 360? </div></BLOCKQUOTE><BR>Third choice: they're a problem with this game. The SNES isn't remembered as a console with saving issues, but you could really screw up your save in FF6 (FF3-US) if you tried to (especially with Relm!). I'll be sure to rotate when I'm playing it tonight.
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">its about time a game with a real story line is out. It's too bad some games sites don't seem to embrace how much more a good story telling experience out weighs everythign else in a game. </div></BLOCKQUOTE><BR><BR>to be fair i want this game but framerate issues/combat/inventory issues will make a game less fun for me. story is all well and good but you do have to play it. now, if it were a movie then that'd be different.<BR><BR>this will be a next year used purchase for me if i keep the 360 and don't move over to the ps3.
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by erwos:<BR><BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by pcgeek86:<BR>Is it possible that your hard disk has a problem, or are corrupted saves common on the 360? </div></BLOCKQUOTE><BR>Third choice: they're a problem with this game. The SNES isn't remembered as a console with saving issues, but you could really screw up your save in FF6 (FF3-US) if you tried to (especially with Relm!). I'll be sure to rotate when I'm playing it tonight. </div></BLOCKQUOTE><BR><BR>I've also had a couple of disk read errors which crashed it to the Live homescreen. Save often, and rotate.<BR><BR>I've never had any issues with this 360, so I'm thinking its the game.
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by NinjaMutha:<BR><BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by erwos:<BR><BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by pcgeek86:<BR>Is it possible that your hard disk has a problem, or are corrupted saves common on the 360? </div></BLOCKQUOTE><BR>Third choice: they're a problem with this game. The SNES isn't remembered as a console with saving issues, but you could really screw up your save in FF6 (FF3-US) if you tried to (especially with Relm!). I'll be sure to rotate when I'm playing it tonight. </div></BLOCKQUOTE><BR><BR>I've also had a couple of disk read errors which crashed it to the Live homescreen. Save often, and rotate.<BR><BR>I've never had any issues with this 360, so I'm thinking its the game. </div></BLOCKQUOTE><BR>Thanks for the heads up.<BR><BR>I'll be playing for a few hours tonight, so I'll be sure to rotate.<BR><BR>Has anyone checked the official forums?
Mass Effect is released here in the UK on Friday.<BR><BR>Do any Brits know what it will be retailing at in the stores? (Game, Gamestation, HMV, Supermarkets)<BR><BR>I am just debating whether to pick it up on my way back from university, or get it from ChoicesUK for £37.50 delivered.<BR><BR>Anyway, this will be the first game I have picked up for the Xbox since March - nothing else has taken my fancy in the meantime. I hope it is worth the wait, even with the possible flaws.
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<br>Next to, or in front of? Be honest.
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<br>Next to, or in front of? Be honest.
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">It is sitting on my desk at work. 6 hours before I leave work. </div></BLOCKQUOTE><BR><BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">I picked it up on my lunch break and it's sitting here on my desk next to the picture of my girlfriend. </div></BLOCKQUOTE><BR>Same boat here. I had to wrap it back up in its plastic bag.<BR><BR>It was staring at me with challenge in its wee beady eyes, questioning my manhood.<BR><BR>3.5 hours...or 2.5, if I can manage to break free a little early.
If the story is good, I can probably overlook certain gameplay deficiencies (FFVII random battles didn't quite ruin that title for me).<br>Anyway I have been waiting for the damned thing to come out for so long I have to play it -- View image here: http://episteme.meincmagazine.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif --
I picked it up at lunch but I won't be able to play it for at least a couple more hours. For those that are already in, what are your thoughts on the classes?<BR><BR>My general play style tends to favor the soldier description, but the adept is intriguing if only for my own fantasies of fantastical mental powers. I'm assuming you will come across a specialized soldier, tech and adept so that you're never really without a given power. Is that so and how long roughly (without spoilers)? <BR><BR>I guess I'm favoring a paragon soldier the first play through and an adept renegade the second, at this point.
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