Mass Effect: five...ish? and a remaster.

malor

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Sorry I have ADD + ADHD so I can't find that in previous posts. .
I'd love to play a game called "Space Racist Ashley". I'm not seeing a link.
It is as funny as it sounds, right?
This is not just Lauren Bobart's sex diary, done by wanna be anime artists is it? "Well at least that is a very WHITE collie.", "The chihuahua is cute but I don't think it is actually American is it?", "Are you sure there are no dogs with Trump in their breed?"
One of your potential love interests in Mass Effect is named Ashley, and she's very much a human supremacist. She does not like or trust aliens, and wants humanity firmly in charge of everything. I'm sure there would be oodles of people just like her if something like the Mass Effect universe ever happened, but it's very unattractive, especially when Shepard is friends with so many aliens.

So I refer to her as Space Racist Ashley, but I probably didn't invent the term. I don't remember seeing it before, but surely someone else came up with it first.

Sadly, it's not funny at all in the actual game.

(edit: I just searched, and there are tons of hits for that term. I definitely did not invent it, I was parroting it from somewhere.)
 
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NavyGothic

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Oh golly, Kaidan is even worse. Honestly, if I could have sacrificed both, I would have.

I think Kaidan gets a bit of a bad rap, because he shares a voice actor with the (rightfully shunned) Carth Onasi from KOTOR; and both characters have a similar "woe is me" backstory. It's pretty easy to see him as Carth 2.0 and hate him right off the bat.

But while Carth comes across as mostly whining, Kaidan is more about moving past his trauma and being stronger for it.

I don't think many people are gonna put Kaidan as their favourite ME character, but he's really not that bad.
 
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Sulphur

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I think Kaidan gets a bit of a bad rap, because he shares a voice actor with the (rightfully shunned) Carth Onasi from KOTOR; and both characters have a similar "woe is me" backstory. It's pretty easy to see him as Carth 2.0 and hate him right off the bad.

But while Carth comes across as mostly whining, Kaidan is more about moving past his trauma and being stronger for it.

I don't think many people are gonna put Kaidan as their favourite ME character, but he's really not that bad.

To be fair, I actually liked Carth (until I didn't). Kaidan's mopeyness wasn't a lot of fun; I felt like Bioware wasn't quite getting how to make him non-annoying, and their tendency to archetype characters to fuck wasn't helping. If they managed to turn him around, that's great, I just lost patience for it early on because I wanted to get on with the rest of the game. Maybe I'll save him (again) this time around on the LE, and see what's what.
 

CommanderJameson

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To be fair, I actually liked Carth (until I didn't). Kaidan's mopeyness wasn't a lot of fun; I felt like Bioware wasn't quite getting how to make him non-annoying, and their tendency to archetype characters to fuck wasn't helping. If they managed to turn him around, that's great, I just lost patience for it early on because I wanted to get on with the rest of the game. Maybe I'll save him (again) this time around on the LE, and see what's what.
TBH my usual MO is to save him (because Space Klan Ashley can gtf) and then never, ever speak to him again or let him leave the Normandy.
 

GMBigKev

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TBH my usual MO is to save him (because Space Klan Ashley can gtf) and then never, ever speak to him again or let him leave the Normandy.

That's my way of playing it too.

But I romance Garrus. And if I need remind you, ACAB means all cops - especially Garrus "I left C-Sec because they wouldn't let me abuse criminals" Vakarian.
 
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Sulphur

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But I romance Garrus. And if I need remind you, ACAB means all cops - especially Garrus "I left C-Sec because they wouldn't let me abuse criminals" Vakarian.

Hah. It's a good thing they gave him a personality shift from the second one on. I never romanced him because I was playing Broshep, but I did in my second ME3 playthrough, which was aborted because of the LE. Now I get to do it all over again (and for the record, my Renegade plays have been far more fun, but also because some of the choices you make [like for Mordin in ME3] can be gut-wrenching in a different way).

Imma stop here before we get punted into another thread.
 
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CPX

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I always considered them somewhere between Spooks and Special Forces. Bastards for completely different reasons.
Spies and SF still mostly abide by their own laws in their own territory or are considered rogue. Spectres literally get to ignore any word besides that of the Citadel Council. Sounds like ACAB to me.
 
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pauli

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Got curious and it seems that Mass Effect 5 is still being worked on, slowly, while Dreadwolf gets most of the attention. It sounds like they are emphasizing connections for the first three games and the team that made them, rather than to MEA.

Speaking of which, I'm playing Mass Effect Andromeda now, and you know what? It's not bad. I think I'm actually finding it less aggravating than the previous games. I've been able to find mods that still work (the game is a lot more fun when you can hop on top of the Tempest from ground level, don't have inventory space issues, and shorten up most of the travel screens).

Frankly, most of my complaints are the same as in the others: hour-padding with slow transitions, poor movement controls, dreadful weapon concepts and differentiation. The crew members aren't annoying me nearly as much as in the previous games. The whole AI narrative focus feels a bit clumsy in 2024, though.

Which is all to say: I think I'd actually rather have more of MEA than more of ME3 in ME5. I'm probably in the minority there.
 

Apteris

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Speaking of which, I'm playing Mass Effect Andromeda now, and you know what? It's not bad. I think I'm actually finding it less aggravating than the previous games. I've been able to find mods that still work (the game is a lot more fun when you can hop on top of the Tempest from ground level, don't have inventory space issues, and shorten up most of the travel screens).
You're playing the best version of the game, between all the patches and mods -- as I did too. That said, I agree, not bad at all. Best combat experience of all the ME games, IMHO, as well as the best car mechanics.

Side thought: someone should document the process of installing ME:A mods somewhere. I used Frosty Mod Manager along with FrostyFix, and it wasn't the most straightforward of processes to get everything installed, configured, and working.
 

pauli

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Side thought: someone should document the process of installing ME:A mods somewhere. I used Frosty Mod Manager along with FrostyFix, and it wasn't the most straightforward of processes to get everything installed, configured, and working.
I discovered that I had Frosty installed from when I played through DA:I last year, so I pointed it at MEA, dropped zip files from Nexus on it, applied them, and that was it. It warns if things are out of date, but I'm only grabbing things that have comments indicating success anyway.