iOS 9, thoroughly reviewed

Apple gives the iPad a lot of love as iOS goes back into spit-and-polish mode.

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[gettersetter]

evan_s[/url]":2awn74fe]

InlineRanger[/url]":2awn74fe]
Maybe I don't know how multitasking works? Apple never deigned to teach me the intricacies of their software design. My experience is that apps tend to accumulate in the multitasking window over the course of a day, certainly more than the 3-5 most recents I'd actually want to switch between. I haven't sat there to check, but maybe Apple kills suspended apps after a period of time. My experience is that they aren't killed after an hour of suspension, a period of time long after an app would be justified as being "recent" to me.

So tell me, what is the Apple-sanctioned way to use an iPhone? Because the "it just works" way isn't working very well for me. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

See that's the thing. There really is no multi tasking in iOS. Apps can not run in the background at all. (ignoring the recent iOS 9 split screen etc). When an app isn't the active app on your screen it is immediately suspended and will be purged from memory as needed. For things like chat programs, music players there are special functions to build a component that handles just the background function but it has very strict requirements and limits. The main app is suspended immediately. If you try switching to one of those really old apps you'll see that it's really just launching again and returning to where you were because it had long been purged out of memory completely. As SraCet it's basically a screenshot of the app the last time it was open and that's all that's left of it in memory.

Add up all those "special functions" and you simply can't assert that apps are not able to run in the background. Of course they can. Nav, music, push email, pebble alerts, chat apps and many more and not just native apps either. It's the rare app that cannot continue to function in some way unless many apps are launched in the interim, forcing nonessential functions to purged. But even in that case, by nav always works, my chats and emails always arrive, news and weather, and so on, even without launching the app at all in many cases. I see the updated widgets.

 

[Adonis91]

Rich C.[/url]":bvhfdtea]

binki[/url]":bvhfdtea]Ok guys, let's talk about that ad-blocking!

So, how much exactly do you make off ads for a single user who browses your site daily and reads, say, 5-7 articles per day? I'm asking because I would be more than willing to pay you monthly subscription fees to get rid of ads entirely! A German tech site (golem.de) introduced a monthly ad-free subscription program last year and while I don't read that site, I would totally pay monthly to read ArsTechnica ad-free!

Get an Ars Premier subscription, it's well worth the $50 a year / $5 a month. No ads, articles load instantly and take up the whole page, you can download PDFs for offline reading, plus the full-text RSS feeds alone would justify the cost. I get more mileage from this than my New York Times iPhone subscription.

The ads are only part of the problem. The other side of the issue is the tracking/analytics that all the sites are conducting. When you sign up for the Premier subscription do they stop those too, or do they simply remove the ads? A lot of the ad-blockers offer filters for the additional tracking, so those content blockers might be worth it even if you are a premier subscriber.

 

[SraCet]

gettersetter[/url]":3freyunw]

evan_s[/url]":3freyunw]

InlineRanger[/url]":3freyunw]
Maybe I don't know how multitasking works? Apple never deigned to teach me the intricacies of their software design. My experience is that apps tend to accumulate in the multitasking window over the course of a day, certainly more than the 3-5 most recents I'd actually want to switch between. I haven't sat there to check, but maybe Apple kills suspended apps after a period of time. My experience is that they aren't killed after an hour of suspension, a period of time long after an app would be justified as being "recent" to me.

So tell me, what is the Apple-sanctioned way to use an iPhone? Because the "it just works" way isn't working very well for me. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

See that's the thing. There really is no multi tasking in iOS. Apps can not run in the background at all. (ignoring the recent iOS 9 split screen etc). When an app isn't the active app on your screen it is immediately suspended and will be purged from memory as needed. For things like chat programs, music players there are special functions to build a component that handles just the background function but it has very strict requirements and limits. The main app is suspended immediately. If you try switching to one of those really old apps you'll see that it's really just launching again and returning to where you were because it had long been purged out of memory completely. As SraCet it's basically a screenshot of the app the last time it was open and that's all that's left of it in memory.

Add up all those "special functions" and you simply can't assert that apps are not able to run in the background. Of course they can. Nav, music, push email, pebble alerts, chat apps and many more and not just native apps either. It's the rare app that cannot continue to function in some way unless many apps are launched in the interim, forcing nonessential functions to purged. But even in that case, by nav always works, my chats and emails always arrive, news and weather, and so on, even without launching the app at all in many cases. I see the updated widgets.

Most of what you're talking about works due to Apple's push notification system and has nothing to do with apps running in the background.

Example: when you get a message in a 3rd party chat app. The chat service sends a notification to Apple, and Apple pushes that notification to the phone. iOS displays the notification in banner/bubble/whatever form. At no point does the app itself run in the background or the foreground.

iOS allows precious few things to run in the background and usually they have obvious user interactions. The two main things are turn-by-turn navigation and music (audio) playback. If neither of those things are happening on your phone then chances are fairly good that nothing is running in the background.

 

[Rich C.]

The ads are only part of the problem. The other side of the issue is the tracking/analytics that all the sites are conducting. When you sign up for the Premier subscription do they stop those too, or do they simply remove the ads? A lot of the ad-blockers offer filters for the additional tracking, so those content blockers might be worth it even if you are a premier subscriber.

The most onerous tracking is through those same ad networks, so that's gone. I don't know offhand what other analytics they get, but I myself am fine with the anonymized Google Analytics type stuff.

If you read full-text articles in an RSS reader (also part Premier), almost everything gets preloaded and there's no JavaScript-based tracking whatsoever. They could conceivably track article views with encoded images URLs, but no idea if they do.

When I get home later I'll fire up a browser console and see what exactly they're running.

 

[iolinux333]

ScifiGeek[/url]":2cy13iss]"Device Compatibility: The iPad 2, third- and fourth-generation Retina iPads, both iPad Airs, and all three iPad Minis."

That makes me regret going for a Samsung Tab Pro even more... I seem to have been abandoned by Samsung on the original OS version forever.

Your comment validates my decision to see if moving to iOS 2 years ago would save me money in the long run. It does. I'm not spending money constantly on piles of Android devices any longer just to try to get a device with less bugs. Instead my old iOS device just gets newer with each update. The Android update model is an unmitigated disaster.

 

[auxilio]

iolinux333[/url]":5q683yca]

ScifiGeek[/url]":5q683yca]"Device Compatibility: The iPad 2, third- and fourth-generation Retina iPads, both iPad Airs, and all three iPad Minis."

That makes me regret going for a Samsung Tab Pro even more... I seem to have been abandoned by Samsung on the original OS version forever.

Your comment validates my decision to see if moving to iOS 2 years ago would save me money in the long run. It does. I'm not spending money constantly on piles of Android devices any longer just to try to get a device with less bugs. Instead my old iOS device just gets newer with each update. The Android update model is an unmitigated disaster.

If you're happy with iOS, then great. But that's not really a validating reason. You can find an Android phone that is reasonably bug free and/or receives updates.

 

[SraCet]

auxilio[/url]":2nudnr2s]

iolinux333[/url]":2nudnr2s]

ScifiGeek[/url]":2nudnr2s]"Device Compatibility: The iPad 2, third- and fourth-generation Retina iPads, both iPad Airs, and all three iPad Minis."

That makes me regret going for a Samsung Tab Pro even more... I seem to have been abandoned by Samsung on the original OS version forever.

Your comment validates my decision to see if moving to iOS 2 years ago would save me money in the long run. It does. I'm not spending money constantly on piles of Android devices any longer just to try to get a device with less bugs. Instead my old iOS device just gets newer with each update. The Android update model is an unmitigated disaster.

If you're happy with iOS, then great. But that's not really a validating reason. You can find an Android phone that is reasonably bug free and/or receives updates.

Looks like the Nexus 4 and newer (2012+) can still be updated to the current version of Android. Other than the Nexus devices, are there any Android phones/tablets that are 3+ years old that are still receiving timely, official updates to the latest OS versions?

 

[SPCagigas]

gettersetter[/url]":llhu98iq]I think Apple maps has reached feature parity with Google Maps, and almost let me ditch my standalone GPS. I even prefer the 3D satellite view over street view to quickly tell me if I'm exactly where I need to be. There are two caveats, however.

When routing for navigation, Google Maps lets me quickly hit an option to "Avoid Highways." As a local truck driver sometimes you just want to keep it on the streets. If I jump on a highway, then G Maps gets the hint and goes with it. Apple maps, even in iOS 9, has no such feature I can see.

And for crying out loud, when typing a hyphenated address in Queens, NY, like 37-26 108 street or something, Apple maps doesn't offer any usable suggestions, whereas G Maps can and does. Apple requires a postal correct address *without* a hyphen such as 3726 108th. Sure it will generally figure it out and route you even with the hyphen in there but it would sure be nice to get a live suggestion closer than Turkey. Seriously. I've tried several times a day for a year and the hyphen chokes the suggestion process.

I know Queens is just an outer borough of NYC but we use the hyphen here *all the time.* What the hell, there's only 2.3 million people that live here, and only two major international airports.

The weirdest part: if you drop a purple pin on a house in *Queens* by long pressing (not in Manhattan or any other borough) the address is returned hyphenated! Like 108-02 or 46-100. It's just the live suggestions that are broken. So clearly someone over at Apple knows how things are done in this neck of the woods. Probably was all the bug reports I filed

Well, your caveats make it pretty clear that there's still a pretty good feature gap between Apple Maps and Google Maps.

FWIW, I tried running them in comparison again last night -- the first time in probably 6 months. Here was my methodology:
Launched Google Maps, entered my destination, then selected the route with the shortest time.
Switched back to the Home Screen, launched Apple Maps, entered the same destination, and selected the route with the shortest time.
Had my copilot switch between the apps as we drove. . .

Immediate Notes:
1. Apple Maps took MUCH longer to find my destination and generate a route - almost instantaneous in Google Maps, but upwards of 20 seconds in Apple Maps.
2. The shortest-time route was a couple minutes shorter in Google Maps than the shortest-time route in Apple Maps -- 17 miles/29 minutes from GMaps, and 21 miles/31 minutes from AMaps.
3. The GMaps route notes alternate routes with estimated travel time changes at every major intersection.
4. The nighttime display for GMaps was much less disruptive/distracting than the AMaps nighttime display (I know this is subjective).

Conclusion: Apple Maps is still a non-starter for me.

 

[SPCagigas]

gettersetter[/url]":53csld1e]

evan_s[/url]":53csld1e]

InlineRanger[/url]":53csld1e]
Maybe I don't know how multitasking works? Apple never deigned to teach me the intricacies of their software design. My experience is that apps tend to accumulate in the multitasking window over the course of a day, certainly more than the 3-5 most recents I'd actually want to switch between. I haven't sat there to check, but maybe Apple kills suspended apps after a period of time. My experience is that they aren't killed after an hour of suspension, a period of time long after an app would be justified as being "recent" to me.

So tell me, what is the Apple-sanctioned way to use an iPhone? Because the "it just works" way isn't working very well for me. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

See that's the thing. There really is no multi tasking in iOS. Apps can not run in the background at all. (ignoring the recent iOS 9 split screen etc). When an app isn't the active app on your screen it is immediately suspended and will be purged from memory as needed. For things like chat programs, music players there are special functions to build a component that handles just the background function but it has very strict requirements and limits. The main app is suspended immediately. If you try switching to one of those really old apps you'll see that it's really just launching again and returning to where you were because it had long been purged out of memory completely. As SraCet it's basically a screenshot of the app the last time it was open and that's all that's left of it in memory.

Add up all those "special functions" and you simply can't assert that apps are not able to run in the background. Of course they can. Nav, music, push email, pebble alerts, chat apps and many more and not just native apps either. It's the rare app that cannot continue to function in some way unless many apps are launched in the interim, forcing nonessential functions to purged. But even in that case, by nav always works, my chats and emails always arrive, news and weather, and so on, even without launching the app at all in many cases. I see the updated widgets.

Eh. . . Try using a third-party alarm clock. If it drops into the background, you won't wake up on time!

 

[ScifiGeek]

SraCet[/url]":gmgx9m5g]

auxilio[/url]":gmgx9m5g]

iolinux333[/url]":gmgx9m5g]

ScifiGeek[/url]":gmgx9m5g]"Device Compatibility: The iPad 2, third- and fourth-generation Retina iPads, both iPad Airs, and all three iPad Minis."

That makes me regret going for a Samsung Tab Pro even more... I seem to have been abandoned by Samsung on the original OS version forever.

Your comment validates my decision to see if moving to iOS 2 years ago would save me money in the long run. It does. I'm not spending money constantly on piles of Android devices any longer just to try to get a device with less bugs. Instead my old iOS device just gets newer with each update. The Android update model is an unmitigated disaster.

If you're happy with iOS, then great. But that's not really a validating reason. You can find an Android phone that is reasonably bug free and/or receives updates.

Looks like the Nexus 4 and newer (2012+) can still be updated to the current version of Android. Other than the Nexus devices, are there any Android phones/tablets that are 3+ years old that are still receiving timely, official updates to the latest OS versions?

I realized the Nexus line would get upgrades, but one of the big features that had me go Android over iOS was a memory slot, and the Nexus devices don't get one.

 

[TBoneT]

SPCagigas[/url]":1im2ocvk]

gettersetter[/url]":1im2ocvk]I think Apple maps has reached feature parity with Google Maps, and almost let me ditch my standalone GPS. I even prefer the 3D satellite view over street view to quickly tell me if I'm exactly where I need to be. There are two caveats, however.

When routing for navigation, Google Maps lets me quickly hit an option to "Avoid Highways." As a local truck driver sometimes you just want to keep it on the streets. If I jump on a highway, then G Maps gets the hint and goes with it. Apple maps, even in iOS 9, has no such feature I can see.

And for crying out loud, when typing a hyphenated address in Queens, NY, like 37-26 108 street or something, Apple maps doesn't offer any usable suggestions, whereas G Maps can and does. Apple requires a postal correct address *without* a hyphen such as 3726 108th. Sure it will generally figure it out and route you even with the hyphen in there but it would sure be nice to get a live suggestion closer than Turkey. Seriously. I've tried several times a day for a year and the hyphen chokes the suggestion process.

I know Queens is just an outer borough of NYC but we use the hyphen here *all the time.* What the hell, there's only 2.3 million people that live here, and only two major international airports.

The weirdest part: if you drop a purple pin on a house in *Queens* by long pressing (not in Manhattan or any other borough) the address is returned hyphenated! Like 108-02 or 46-100. It's just the live suggestions that are broken. So clearly someone over at Apple knows how things are done in this neck of the woods. Probably was all the bug reports I filed

Well, your caveats make it pretty clear that there's still a pretty good feature gap between Apple Maps and Google Maps.

FWIW, I tried running them in comparison again last night -- the first time in probably 6 months. Here was my methodology:
Launched Google Maps, entered my destination, then selected the route with the shortest time.
Switched back to the Home Screen, launched Apple Maps, entered the same destination, and selected the route with the shortest time.
Had my copilot switch between the apps as we drove. . .

Immediate Notes:
1. Apple Maps took MUCH longer to find my destination and generate a route - almost instantaneous in Google Maps, but upwards of 20 seconds in Apple Maps.
2. The shortest-time route was a couple minutes shorter in Google Maps than the shortest-time route in Apple Maps -- 17 miles/29 minutes from GMaps, and 21 miles/31 minutes from AMaps.
3. The GMaps route notes alternate routes with estimated travel time changes at every major intersection.
4. The nighttime display for GMaps was much less disruptive/distracting than the AMaps nighttime display (I know this is subjective).

Conclusion: Apple Maps is still a non-starter for me.

That's strange. I just picked a random restaurant on the other side of town and both gave me the same route practically instantly. Apple, however, said it would take 5 minutes longer for the exact same distance and route.

 

[stokestack]

Here's another glaring defect, a feature missing from all iPhones since day one: AUDIBLE NOTIFICATIONS OF MISSED CALLS. It's unbelievable that, after eight years, this basic feature is still missing from A PHONE.

And to add stupidity to this, what did Apple do? Add the feature for TEXTS. You can have up to 10 repeat notifications of a text but ZERO for missed calls.

Apple has ignored this embarrassing and offensive defect since the inception of the device, despite numerous bug reports. This feature was standard on StarTACs of the 1990s! But Apple's handheld Unix computer is too stupid to tell you that you missed a call while you were in the shower. Or down the hall doing laundry while your phone was on its charger (which it will be, since they also idiotically made it thinner at the expense of battery life).

 

[SraCet]

stokestack[/url]":2q6yh9wz]Here's another glaring defect, a feature missing from all iPhones since day one: AUDIBLE NOTIFICATIONS OF MISSED CALLS. It's unbelievable that, after eight years, this basic feature is still missing from A PHONE.

And to add stupidity to this, what did Apple do? Add the feature for TEXTS. You can have up to 10 repeat notifications of a text but ZERO for missed calls.

Apple has ignored this embarrassing and offensive defect since the inception of the device, despite numerous bug reports. This feature was standard on StarTACs of the 1990s! But Apple's handheld Unix computer is too stupid to tell you that you missed a call while you were in the shower. Or down the hall doing laundry while your phone was on its charger (which it will be, since they also idiotically made it thinner at the expense of battery life).

Then don't buy one. Or if you already have one, you can sell it. iPhones retain their value very well.

 

[SPCagigas]

SraCet[/url]":g5nu8wp7]

stokestack[/url]":g5nu8wp7]Here's another glaring defect, a feature missing from all iPhones since day one: AUDIBLE NOTIFICATIONS OF MISSED CALLS. It's unbelievable that, after eight years, this basic feature is still missing from A PHONE.

And to add stupidity to this, what did Apple do? Add the feature for TEXTS. You can have up to 10 repeat notifications of a text but ZERO for missed calls.

Apple has ignored this embarrassing and offensive defect since the inception of the device, despite numerous bug reports. This feature was standard on StarTACs of the 1990s! But Apple's handheld Unix computer is too stupid to tell you that you missed a call while you were in the shower. Or down the hall doing laundry while your phone was on its charger (which it will be, since they also idiotically made it thinner at the expense of battery life).

Then don't buy one. Or if you already have one, you can sell it. iPhones retain their value very well.

Or learn to use your phone properly. If you miss a call on an iPhone, what's the first thing you see when you turn the screen on? Missed call: 555-1212. If you miss that, there's that nice, high-contrast red badge on the phone icon. Miss that as well, and it'll still show up in your notifications list until you manually clear it out. . .

I'm not crazy about how iOS implemeted notifications, but one certainly can't complain that they're easy to miss.

 

[Zak]

Ads are annoying, irrelevant and often disturbing. Google ads are particularly nasty. When I'm eating my breakfast I don't want to be greeted with images of bed bugs, ingrown toenails, zits and boils. Fuck that noise, I'm blocking ads.

 

[Zak]

tewha[/url]":c2xifs1n]

Fred Duck[/url]":c2xifs1n]I’m not sure I agree that “the card-based multitasking switcher is also an improvement over the one in iOS 8.”

It's also a lot less responsive, at least on my iPad mini 2. The iPad mini 2 is still in production and has the same CPU as the iPad mini 3: this ought to be better supported.

It's pretty bad. I've just bough iPad Air2 and the switcher is annoying as hell. Needs fixing badly.

 

[the_frakker]

Apple Music

When Apple Music launched with iOS 8.4.1, I noticed a feature missing that frustrated me. I could no longer shuffle all songs for all albums under an Artist. I could shuffle one album at a time only.

The updated app in iOS 9 brings with it the return of this shuffle option. I'm still not happy with the changes to how I access music that I own. I am not an Apple Music subscriber nor have I activated a trial. All that is turned off.

I'm really happy with the re-emergence of this shuffle all feature and want to share.

 

[SPCagigas]

Zak[/url]":3m2er480]Ads are annoying, irrelevant and often disturbing. Google ads are particularly nasty. When I'm eating my breakfast I don't want to be greeted with images of bed bugs, ingrown toenails, zits and boils. Fuck that noise, I'm blocking ads.

You do know that Google ads are generated in large part based on your browsing habits, right?

 

[evan_s]

stokestack[/url]":3q3z5sm4]Here's another glaring defect, a feature missing from all iPhones since day one: AUDIBLE NOTIFICATIONS OF MISSED CALLS. It's unbelievable that, after eight years, this basic feature is still missing from A PHONE.

And to add stupidity to this, what did Apple do? Add the feature for TEXTS. You can have up to 10 repeat notifications of a text but ZERO for missed calls.

Apple has ignored this embarrassing and offensive defect since the inception of the device, despite numerous bug reports. This feature was standard on StarTACs of the 1990s! But Apple's handheld Unix computer is too stupid to tell you that you missed a call while you were in the shower. Or down the hall doing laundry while your phone was on its charger (which it will be, since they also idiotically made it thinner at the expense of battery life).

Personally, I never noticed it because my iPhone spends 99% of it's time on vibrate so it probably wouldn't be useful for me anyway. You might actually do better in getting support if you toned down your message a bit. Calling it a defect instead of a missing feature. Calling it embarrassing and offensive or stupid, etc instead of a simply a nice feature that should be simple to add.

 

[Grumbley]

I must say, I upgraded at the weekend as I was in search of all these new features and the promise of better performance. I was sadly disappointed.
It's barely-noticably-different from IOS 8
There's maybe a slightly reworked Icon and some minuscule spacing of icons is different
The Task pager thingy is different....but woo
What is noticeably different is the performance is rubbish, much worse than on IOS 8. Even on basic things like typing addresses into safari. It just does nothing then it responds all at once.
There's not much point in them making siri better ( a feature I never use) if you have also made all the basic features I do use much worse
The game centre just doesn't work at all
greatly disappointed, it's like they did no testing on it what so ever

 

[SraCet]

Grumbley[/url]":2uz5w2x3]I must say, I upgraded at the weekend as I was in search of all these new features and the promise of better performance. I was sadly disappointed.
It's barely-noticably-different from IOS 8
There's maybe a slightly reworked Icon and some minuscule spacing of icons is different
The Task pager thingy is different....but woo
What is noticeably different is the performance is rubbish, much worse than on IOS 8. Even on basic things like typing addresses into safari. It just does nothing then it responds all at once.
There's not much point in them making siri better ( a feature I never use) if you have also made all the basic features I do use much worse
The game centre just doesn't work at all
greatly disappointed, it's like they did no testing on it what so ever

Well, they obviously did quite a bit of testing but I'm also disappointed in the performance of the new release. I'm surprised by the quick downvotes to your post.

My phone has only ever lost 1-2% battery charge overnight while I sleep. My first night with iOS 9, I woke up to find the phone had lost over 50% charge. I know a lot of people have complained about battery consumption bugs in the past with new version of iOS but this is the first time I've been bitten by one, and I've been using an iPhone since 2008. (I haven't seen the problem reoccur though, so that's good.)

I'm also pretty infuriated with Siri's performance in the new release. I use Siri sometimes to text or place calls while I'm driving, and with iOS 9, bringing up Siri is completely unreliable. Long-pressing the home button will sometimes not do anything, or it will sometimes display the Siri "how can I help you" prompt but no animation to indicate that it's listening, or the animation might take between 5 to 15 seconds to start. I assume these bugs will be fixed quickly in a point release but I'm surprised and annoyed that they occurred in the first place.

I will echo your complaint that when you bring up the keyboard and start typing, performance is often crunchy. Especially when typing in the address bar in Safari. It's depressing to see Apple make the fastest mobile processors known to man and then piss away that advantage with software that should clearly be doing whatever it's doing on a different thread.

 

[grahamtriggs]

The new app switcher is terrible - less precise and usable than the old one - and causes an iPad Mini 3 to be unacceptably slow due to unnecessary use of transparency.

 

[grahamtriggs]

Grumbley[/url]":3vx5ey1k]I must say, I upgraded at the weekend as I was in search of all these new features and the promise of better performance. I was sadly disappointed.
It's barely-noticably-different from IOS 8
There's maybe a slightly reworked Icon and some minuscule spacing of icons is different
The Task pager thingy is different....but woo
What is noticeably different is the performance is rubbish, much worse than on IOS 8. Even on basic things like typing addresses into safari. It just does nothing then it responds all at once.
There's not much point in them making siri better ( a feature I never use) if you have also made all the basic features I do use much worse
The game centre just doesn't work at all
greatly disappointed, it's like they did no testing on it what so ever

On an iPad Mini 3, it was terribly sluggish - improved by turning off transparency in the accessibility settings.

And an iPhone, I had significant power drain on the first day of use - but it turns out that was Yahoo Weather making constant use of location services. So for any battery life problems, first check the location / background refresh settings - quite possibly a third party app that isn't behaving well with the new iOS.

 

[Magic Man]

ScifiGeek[/url]":19hek8yb]"Device Compatibility: The iPad 2, third- and fourth-generation Retina iPads, both iPad Airs, and all three iPad Minis."

That makes me regret going for a Samsung Tab Pro even more... I seem to have been abandoned by Samsung on the original OS version forever.

Regret, why?

What updates to Android are you missing and what functionality has ios 9 added that would have changed your original decision to go with a Tab Pro rather than an iPad in the first place?

 

[ScifiGeek]

Magic Man[/url]":1z7d5u1v]

ScifiGeek[/url]":1z7d5u1v]"Device Compatibility: The iPad 2, third- and fourth-generation Retina iPads, both iPad Airs, and all three iPad Minis."

That makes me regret going for a Samsung Tab Pro even more... I seem to have been abandoned by Samsung on the original OS version forever.

Regret, why?

What updates to Android are you missing and what functionality has ios 9 added that would have changed your original decision to go with a Tab Pro rather than an iPad in the first place?

I have never had an Android update on my Samsung, so what I am missing? All the things that where upgraded in Lollipop, it's quite a lot:
http://www.knowyourmobile.com/mobile-ph ... ial-design

 

[beyondtool]

After two weeks thinking about it I finally pulled the pin. Dag nabbit, they have changed the system font in iOS9. I want my Ultralight font back!!!! I also hate the new tabs..its user unfriendly IMHO.

Feeling like an old man about iOS 9...

Is it possible to go back these days?

 

[gimfred]

Did you backup? I vaguely remember a small window after upgrading being able to go back.

Edit: No, you can't apparently. http://www.macworld.co.uk/how-to/iosapp ... 8-3522302/

 

[i662i812r11]

I ignored my own practice and upgraded right away on an iPhone6.

Unfortunately, iCloud sync no longer works for contacts, calendars, and reminders. (still works on iPad, iOS 8)

Working through an increasingly disruptive list of possible fixes I have reset Networks and now have to log back into all of the WiFi networks that were previously remembered. That synced calendars and reminders once but subsequent changes have not. Contacts is still dead.

If you have not upgraded yet, my advice is to wait. I will certainly not jump on a new version again.