In this episode of 'Things That Piss Me Off'.........

Drizzt321

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Technology, part 3,683:

CVS sends a text to find out if I want a prescription refilled. Reply YES or NO. I reply NO.

Two weeks later:

CVS sends a text to find out if I want a prescription refilled. Reply YES or NO. I reply NO.

A week after that:

CVS sends a text to find out if I want a prescription refilled. Reply YES or NO. I reply NO STOP ASKING.

(To which there was some reply about no further refills. Hooray! Technology might be working for us!)

Today:

Two calls from CVS to find out if I want my fucking prescription fucking refilled even though I've told them fucking NO. Three times alfuckingready. (Yes, it's still the same Rx that I texted "NO" about because it's the only one I have and refills for it ended April 30.)

Gah.

For SMS stuff you can also try "stop" to ensure they don't send any more.

But that part about now _calling_, that's ridiculous.
 

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So my work laptop is fairly new. Performance wise it's pretty good. But holy crap, it take almost 10 minutes from logging in to Lync finishing startup. I'm pretty sure the company IT department is to blame. That really pisses me off! :p
Sounds like the IT department is to blame for purchasing a laptop with an HDD not an SSD. So yes, very much yes :)

(of course, if the laptop takes 10 minutes to be usable and it does have an SSD then your IT department is utterly amazing. That kind of slowdown despite an SSD takes exceptional skill to achieve!)
 

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So my work laptop is fairly new. Performance wise it's pretty good. But holy crap, it take almost 10 minutes from logging in to Lync finishing startup. I'm pretty sure the company IT department is to blame. That really pisses me off! :p
Sounds like the IT department is to blame for purchasing a laptop with an HDD not an SSD. So yes, very much yes :)

(of course, if the laptop takes 10 minutes to be usable and it does have an SSD then your IT department is utterly amazing. That kind of slowdown despite an SSD takes exceptional skill to achieve!)

Oh, I didn't want to get into it, but SSDs are strictly against policy. Something security related.
 

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So my work laptop is fairly new. Performance wise it's pretty good. But holy crap, it take almost 10 minutes from logging in to Lync finishing startup. I'm pretty sure the company IT department is to blame. That really pisses me off! :p
Sounds like the IT department is to blame for purchasing a laptop with an HDD not an SSD. So yes, very much yes :)

(of course, if the laptop takes 10 minutes to be usable and it does have an SSD then your IT department is utterly amazing. That kind of slowdown despite an SSD takes exceptional skill to achieve!)

Oh, I didn't want to get into it, but SSDs are strictly against policy. Something security related.

You mean the file deletion thing? That's what whole disk encryption is for.
 

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You mean the file deletion thing? That's what whole disk encryption is for.

Should be considered mandatory even for spinny rust plates. There's no guarantee two writes to the same LBA will hit the same spot on the disk, you can overwrite the whole drive with zeros and still have data left in re-allocated sectors.
 

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I don't make the rules and I have no idea about the details. The concern is over data classified as secret.

If it's classified, then there are whole other sets of rules that shouldn't matter what the storage medium is, so SSD vs spinning shouldn't matter, I'd think. Ah well, unlikely anything you can do about it.
 

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It's just frustrating since the laptop/PCs have really high specs otherwise, but SSDs are a big no no. That said, there is also some specific Lync patches/configurations that may not be installed/configured. At least that's what I gather from the MS tech site. In the end, it seems to be erring on the side of security, but the result is that it takes 10+ minutes for my laptop to become usable.
 

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I found a possible answer in this NSA doc:

In order to understand the residual risk, it is important to understand the basics of the complications involved in erasing memory from an SSD. There are two major complications for deleting data on solid state. The first issue is that the memory used is not highly reliable. To address the reliability problem an SSD will have more storage than is directly accessible by the user. This storage is used to keep additional copies of data and provide error correction. The second is that in drives when a user deletes a file, the drive will mark that area as free space, but will not actually overwrite the data. This is for performance
reasons, the memory used by the SSD must be cleared before being written to again and that takes time. The drive works in conjunction with the operating system to perform this task in the background when the drive does not have more important tasks. Because of these issues it is not possible for a third party file deletion tool to directly overwrite data.

tl;dr: SSD storage bits degrade so they make up for this by storing multiple copies of data willy-nilly inside themselves.
 
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Not sure why that matters, when we decommission classified hard drives, there's a protocol for physical destruction, not just erasure of data. There's a shredder here on site that we use to shred hard drives and other electronics that need to be destroyed.

A very good practice.

There's also the issue of hardware theft or machine compromise, if they're laptops/mobile devices. If it's a .gov agency or contractor, it seems like one way to minimize a data breach (if hard drives are encrypted and don't leave random images about).

Although if an SSD was encrypted, wouldn't it be full-drive encryption? So that even if there were random ghost copies of data on the drive, they'd also be encrypted?
 

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Not sure why that matters, when we decommission classified hard drives, there's a protocol for physical destruction, not just erasure of data. There's a shredder here on site that we use to shred hard drives and other electronics that need to be destroyed.

A very good practice.

There's also the issue of hardware theft or machine compromise, if they're laptops/mobile devices. If it's a .gov agency or contractor, it seems like one way to minimize a data breach (if hard drives are encrypted and don't leave random images about).

Although if an SSD was encrypted, wouldn't it be full-drive encryption? So that even if there were random ghost copies of data on the drive, they'd also be encrypted?

Exactly, with full disk encryption all the data, even multiple copies/random left-overs would be encrypted.
 

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Look guys, I think I've already said too much. Plus, that black helicopter has been in a holding pattern far longer than usual.

I think one issue is that if some controlled data gets on a SSD accidentally, then the deletion process is more complicated than just deleting the file. And shredding is apparently not the best course in this situation. Yeah, you have bigger problems when there is accidental exposure of controlled data, but it's one consideration for the SSD restriction apparently.
 
Look guys, I think I've already said too much. Plus, that black helicopter has been in a holding pattern far longer than usual.

I think one issue is that if some controlled data gets on a SSD accidentally, then the deletion process is more complicated than just deleting the file. And shredding is apparently not the best course in this situation. Yeah, you have bigger problems when there is accidental exposure of controlled data, but it's one consideration for the SSD restriction apparently.
And yet I question why the industry hasn’t responded with a high-security version that would support better purge method.
 

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Look guys, I think I've already said too much. Plus, that black helicopter has been in a holding pattern far longer than usual.

I think one issue is that if some controlled data gets on a SSD accidentally, then the deletion process is more complicated than just deleting the file. And shredding is apparently not the best course in this situation. Yeah, you have bigger problems when there is accidental exposure of controlled data, but it's one consideration for the SSD restriction apparently.
And yet I question why the industry hasn’t responded with a high-security version that would support better purge method.

You mean the OPAL or similar embedded encryption drives?
 
I was in NYC, NY last weekend and Saturday night after leaving a club with friends I was put in a situation which pissed me off.

Context: I am a White, Male, Born in USA, native English speaker, the people I was with are Brazilian, but legally living and working in the USA (some were here for a few days on tourist visas). They at a glance would be what American's call "white", but they have a slight accent when speaking English.

We walked by another club which had also just closed and there was a small pack of American White men.
My friends and I were talking at the time and I guess one of the American White men picked up on the accent and shouted "Hey! Where are you from?!"
My friend responded "I live in Queens?"
The American, in an irritated voice responds "No, where are you from?!"
I was caught off guard by this. So I would have preferred my friend keep walking, but you know how it is when you encounter bigots, he said "Brazil. Why do you ask?".
American simply SHOUTS "GO BACK TO SOUTH AMERICA!".
We left before there was more escalation. The bouncer was at that point getting the Americans away from my friend and we were on our way.
But that has been bothering me all week. Some entitled American White boys were mad they had to leave the club alone (no date) and hearing an accent triggered them?
I'm also surprised they knew which continent Brazil is on. :rolleyes:
Now I'm all worked up again. :mad:
 

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Look guys, I think I've already said too much. Plus, that black helicopter has been in a holding pattern far longer than usual.

I think one issue is that if some controlled data gets on a SSD accidentally, then the deletion process is more complicated than just deleting the file. And shredding is apparently not the best course in this situation. Yeah, you have bigger problems when there is accidental exposure of controlled data, but it's one consideration for the SSD restriction apparently.
And yet I question why the industry hasn’t responded with a high-security version that would support better purge method.

You mean the OPAL or similar embedded encryption drives?

I would imagine the root Yagisama's issue is bureaucracy. I once carried a secret clearance in the service when I was younger. We had some pretty wacky regulations and loopholes we had to jump through.

Now I do some work related to the business of making big atoms into smaller ones (commercially) and I've had to deal tangentially with the NRC at times. Now there's a monolithic bureaucracy of epic proportions. Falling afoul of or even seeming to run afoul of any documentation, no matter how mind boggling questionable, has serious real world consequences. I actively limit myself to the bare minimum of contact.

I can totally understand where he's coming from, even if at face value it doesn't make much sense.
 

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Doing Disneyland this week. The little kids having meltdowns aren’t that bad. You know they’re just tired and overstimulated, with parents trying to get them to settle. It’s the after fireworks crowd, consisting mainly of un-chaperoned teenagers that make me want to rent a stroller to run them all down. Hmm, maybe they sell the cane from Up. I could remove the tennis balls and start swinging it.
 

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Amazon doesn't have a book of family friendly poetry under the title "Lexcalibur" in stock and ready to ship to me. We're a month from what is marked on my calendar as Claw Shrimp Day, and I haven't bought any gifts.

I shout into a cell phone on speaker phone, held so I can see the number keys on the screen in case I need to deal with a phone tree. I can't hear it well, so I need to yell so it can hear me. I lock myself in my car first, though. I can't risk the poor signal strength inside a building.
 

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Drove down to Chicago today for some hw maintenance. Drive went smooth until literally the last mile, where I encountered 2 train crossings (1 freight, 1 Metra) then a car accident blocking the intersection just outside of the train tracks.

Hopefully the hw work will be done quick so I can head home before rush hour. 5 hours drive for less than 1 hours work.
 

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Which further brings to mind:

If someone is visiting your abode, go ahead and offer them food and/or drink as appropriate.

If they decline, SHUT THE FUCK UP ABOUT IT! Asking the same question 16 different ways is going to elicit the same answer, and be the genesis of their plot to destroy you, your family, and to erase the memory of your entire lineage from the face of the planet.
 

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People who walk around, talking on the phone, with it on speaker. They hold it face-up about 3 inches from their mouth, yet still feel the need to shout into it.


My ex's entire family would do that.

Unspeakable rage, man. Unspeakable.
I don't understand why people do this? Is there some (to them) legitimate reason to do so? Are you afraid of the bacteria on the screen of your phone? Do you think the phone's radiation is going to give you a brain tumour? Or are you simply wet behind the ears? Why people, why?
 
People who walk around, talking on the phone, with it on speaker. They hold it face-up about 3 inches from their mouth, yet still feel the need to shout into it.


My ex's entire family would do that.

Unspeakable rage, man. Unspeakable.
I don't understand why people do this? Is there some (to them) legitimate reason to do so? Are you afraid of the bacteria on the screen of your phone? Do you think the phone's radiation is going to give you a brain tumour? Or are you simply wet behind the ears? Why people, why?

Every time I've seen it, they're strutting around and saying Important Sounding Things obnoxiously so everyone nearby knows that they're an Important Person.
 

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It makes it easier to see the screen while you talk.
You can't feel for buttons on a touch screen, so you have to be able to see.

If you're dealing with an IVR/menu tree...fine. Turn on the speakerphone, go some place quiet, and knock yourself out.

If you're talking to someone? Unless you REALLY want to piss them and everyone else off by doing this and pressing random numbers, go some place quiet and smash your phone into pieces.
 

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People who walk around, talking on the phone, with it on speaker. They hold it face-up about 3 inches from their mouth, yet still feel the need to shout into it.


My ex's entire family would do that.

Unspeakable rage, man. Unspeakable.
I don't understand why people do this? Is there some (to them) legitimate reason to do so? Are you afraid of the bacteria on the screen of your phone? Do you think the phone's radiation is going to give you a brain tumour? Or are you simply wet behind the ears? Why people, why?

Every time I've seen it, they're strutting around and saying Important Sounding Things obnoxiously so everyone nearby knows that they're an Important Person.
Yup. There was a guy doing that today. Standing in a rather public place, chatting away about financing some business deal. If I was concerned about making sure I was understood, I’d find a nice quiet spot, and have both the mic and speaker close to my face. But no, let’s take the call where a bunch of people are coming and going, and have it on speaker, so everyone can hear both sides of the conversation.
 

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Doing Disneyland this week. The little kids having meltdowns aren’t that bad. You know they’re just tired and overstimulated, with parents trying to get them to settle. It’s the after fireworks crowd, consisting mainly of un-chaperoned teenagers that make me want to rent a stroller to run them all down. Hmm, maybe they sell the cane from Up. I could remove the tennis balls and start swinging it.

Ah yes, another reason to avoid this place as an adult if at all possible. Thank you for validating my decision to avoid Disneyland, even with the SoCal discount.