Won’t matter.
You know when I said Nuremberg trials.
Chuck Schumer needs to have his turn in the dock. His name should go down in history with Quisling and Ephialtes.
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Won’t matter.
You know when I said Nuremberg trials.
Chuck Schumer needs to have his turn in the dock. His name should go down in history with Quisling and Ephialtes.
"Entered illegally" is severely under-selling it at this point. They want to deport all immigrants who at any point in time have ever been in an invalid immigrant state. It's an excuse to be anti-immigrant and make legal immigrants scared and compliant.
* come in the country for asylum? You came in illegally (by necessity)! Gone!
* overstay a tourist visa? You're illegal! Deported!
* fail to find a new job to sponsor your H1B in the 30 days but currently have someone trying to sponsor you? Deported!
* share a name with someone who committed a crime? Who cares if there are millions of Maria Garcias out there. Detained! And since we have you detained, might as well deport you.
* misspell the name of a street on one of the addresses on your paperwork? Greencard revoked! Deported!
Or who was ever been an immigrant, or whoever was ever the child of an immigrant, or... Honestly, I'm not sure it ever ends.
Or not. The guy whose tweet you posted has already walked it back:
View: https://bsky.app/profile/pabloreports.bsky.social/post/3mckw3s2au22r
I have family and friends who told me that they are worry. Most of them are Asia origin and all are legal immigrants, so not even the current top targets. I am worried... but I think my worry is more financial. Fairly sure if they decide to kick me out, I won't able to take my money with me.
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https://www.politico.com/live-updat...s-following-minneapolis-shooting-pro-00729265
It's sort of a metaphysical argument. If you require ICE to wear body cams, they need to obtain body cams which cost money. If you give DHS a new appropriation designated for purchasing body cams you are in some sense increasing funding for DHS but not really increasing funding for lawless removal operations. If you insist DHS has to pay for the body cams with its existing appropriation you are in some sense cutting something else that appropriation was meant for which may or may not end up being lawless removal operations.
I get your argument, I'm more in the "I could mock up all kinds of bullshit in a fake Twitter screenshot too, let's see some actual links" camp.
It isn’t weird at all. You’ve just misrepresented his actual ideology. His ideology is “might makes right”. It’s that you can and should do whatever you want that you think you can get away with. That’s it.
It’s just Donald Trump’s “oh yeah, make me” turned into an overt ambition rather than an incidental defense.
A lot of the bullies forget that they may be a bit bigger and people may back down initially, but they are not big enough to take on everyone.
I guess. Hasn’t stopped Trump or Miller so far, just occasionally temporarily diverted their attention and/or approach.
The ironic thing is if it were not for laws and social norms Miller would probably have the shit beat out of him every day for his whole life.
While I'm sure his philosophy does believe that might make right, that isn't what motivates him, that is the racial animus. Which tells you that might makes right isn't really his ideology. His might makes right ideas are backed by a titanic share of the ends justify the means, and, in his mind, those ends the ends are nothing less that the salvation of western society from the genetic degradation of all those immigrants. To him, they must be driven form our midst lest they infect us with... Well who knows precisely. The man is a fascist, he holds fascist ideology.
fwiw, that was the Trump administration argument on the meaning of "regular forces" in the law.
Last month the Supreme Court, in a 6-3 decision, disagreed with that interpretation.
Trump v. Illinois: A Narrow Supreme Court Decision with Broad Implications
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An interesting article outlining how Minnesota's ICE Watch deescalates situations and some of the positive effects this is having:
https://www.ms.now/opinion/minneapolis-ice-watch-protesters-violence-research
One notable one is that ICE patrol sizes are larger now, meaning it takes more agents to do each thing they try to do. They have also pulled agents from other cities to go to MN. So ICE accomplishes less than before.
And Trump is suddenly not falling over himself to invoke the Insurrection Act. That could change tomorrow, but so far, at least some of the grassroots pushback against the regime is having some effect. I hope they can sustain and grow it.
https://www.ms.now/opinion/minneapolis-ice-watch-protesters-violence-research
One notable one is that ICE patrol sizes are larger now, meaning it takes more agents to do each thing they try to do. They have also pulled agents from other cities to go to MN. So ICE accomplishes less than before.
And Trump is suddenly not falling over himself to invoke the Insurrection Act. That could change tomorrow, but so far, at least some of the grassroots pushback against the regime is having some effect. I hope they can sustain and grow it.
One US Navy vet Trump voter's British born wife is being deported after having lived in the USA for 37 years with a greencard because she bounced a $25.00 check in 2015. She was convicted of a misdemeanor, paid the $25 back, paid the fine and assumed it was done and in the past. She got picked up coming back into the country after visiting relatives in the UK and is now being held for deportation. Faces, leopards and all that.
There's a hell of a lot of ICE people who would be better replaced with body cams even if the body cams never got turned on.
Don think this was posted yet. Saw it on Reddit:
https://apnews.com/article/ice-immigration-detention-death-texas-2bfb614b2b222803d309f338357d04eb
ICE claims suicide, witnesses say it was straight up murder. That he was strangulated.
I don’t want to be alarmist, but we are reaching an inflection point, a point of no return where things get really, really bad, very very fast. It feels like one of those time times the world suddenly changes in weeks or months.
Were three days short of the first year of Trumps term, and we went from “It’s not ideal but let’s not overreact”, to “Masked federal agents might kill you on a whim, and it isn’t actually illegal”.
I’m afraid unless the American public awakens and stoke the fires of resistance, we are months, maybe a year, from a de-facto authoritarian regime little different from Russia.
Absurd? Impossible? A year ago, immigration officers outright murdering not one, but TWO civilians, and an executive that affirms it not only isn’t illegal but that the entire organisation is basically above the law.
Edit: Sorry, it isn’t actually new, it happened earlier in the month. My bad, bungled the dates. The rest stands, though.
https://apnews.com/article/ice-immigration-detention-death-texas-2bfb614b2b222803d309f338357d04eb
ICE claims suicide, witnesses say it was straight up murder. That he was strangulated.
I don’t want to be alarmist, but we are reaching an inflection point, a point of no return where things get really, really bad, very very fast. It feels like one of those time times the world suddenly changes in weeks or months.
Were three days short of the first year of Trumps term, and we went from “It’s not ideal but let’s not overreact”, to “Masked federal agents might kill you on a whim, and it isn’t actually illegal”.
I’m afraid unless the American public awakens and stoke the fires of resistance, we are months, maybe a year, from a de-facto authoritarian regime little different from Russia.
Absurd? Impossible? A year ago, immigration officers outright murdering not one, but TWO civilians, and an executive that affirms it not only isn’t illegal but that the entire organisation is basically above the law.
Edit: Sorry, it isn’t actually new, it happened earlier in the month. My bad, bungled the dates. The rest stands, though.
Honestly, with the amount of killing/incidents, you would have to link to the article. I am not sure which TWO civilians killed you were talking about.
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While I'm somewhat skeptical of the courts abilities to save us from all this is good to see that there is still some legal pushback. The judge has re-affirmed that no you can not stop cats just because they might be following you or pepper spray peaceful protests who are not inhibiting your actions.
Buried in the article is this nasty piece of info though:
https://www.politico.com/news/2026/01/16/ice-minneapolis-arrests-judge-protests-00735416
Buried in the article is this nasty piece of info though:
Now who's the one performing "lawfare" again?
https://www.politico.com/news/2026/01/16/ice-minneapolis-arrests-judge-protests-00735416
It was always cynical, deliberate projection: accuse your opponent of that which you are guilty of. Just like charges of corruption and attempts to steal elections, just like the howlers about protecting college students from antisemitism while banning Plato because it's too woke. Trump has always used the law to hurt people he didn't like.
They won't stop, but it will help turn people that aren't ultra-online against them.
At certain point, the legal arguments and logic would not be matter. the DOJ and the courts would be run by the same people.
"This isn't what I signed up for". That an $6 gets you a cup of coffee.
It's performative at best unless they change who they vote for and what are the chances of that?
I mean, they might be able to indict one... but to convict requires convincing a jury and that isn't about to happen.
I thought it was a hoagie.
Even so, this kind of harassment is still effective. The target has to retain counsel and fight the charges, which all takes time, money, and energy. Trump can do it with impunity because he'll never, ever be held accountable for frivolous lawsuits.
They basically are in a lot of cases, but they still have to get through a grand jury.
If that's Donna Hughes-Brown, she's won her case and isn't being deported. If it's not, please give a name or link so I can follow it up. I'm interested because I have a niece in America who is worried.
It is the same woman. What first had me confused is the article i read earlier had her as an English woman and your link has her as an Irish woman.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/b...-in-us-amid-immigration-crackdown/ar-AA1LJCpR
It was a reference to the expression that a prosecutor could get a grand jury to indict a ham sandwich (because the burden is so low). The Trump DOJ has faced the highest rates of no bills (failures to indict before a grand jury) perhaps ever.
I think the governor and mayor are sophisticated enough parties that they can dismantle any potential attempts.
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This video made me quite upset. I agree with him. Whatever rises from the ashes of what they are going to do to us all absolutely must begin with mass trials and the resultant punishment of the ones doing this.
Not just the leaders, a reckoning. We must absolutely not make the same mistake we did in reconstruction with basically the same people again.
Incredible headline
Its not specific to ICE, but related. Its an entertaining opinion piece https://www.al.com/news/2026/01/why-do-police-dress-like-characters-from-fortnite.html
Its not specific to ICE, but related. Its an entertaining opinion piece https://www.al.com/news/2026/01/why-do-police-dress-like-characters-from-fortnite.html
While I'm loath to bring TEH ECONOMY!!! into this it's worth at least noting that the surge is having a noticable detrimental effect on the Minnesota local economy. To also note that it's remembering which groups (cough TARGET cough) have been entirely silent on this even when it's affecting their own business+employees.
https://northstarpolicy.org/business-impacts/
https://bringmethenews.com/minnesot...ed-from-jan-17-23-in-response-to-ice-presence
https://northstarpolicy.org/business-impacts/
https://bringmethenews.com/minnesot...ed-from-jan-17-23-in-response-to-ice-presence
I hate to say it but this might be a litmus test for the current state of rule of law in the US. A judge has ordered ICE to stop pepper spraying, arresting, and pulling over peacefull protestors .
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/u...nst-peaceful-minnesota-protesters/ar-AA1UnSeR
I'm still confused as why protestors are being protected from illegal arrest but not random legal citizen sitting in their home. But if the ruling is as it's being described we will see if ICE gives two fucks about a court order in short term, and if they don't will anyone actually even try to stop them.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/u...nst-peaceful-minnesota-protesters/ar-AA1UnSeR
I'm still confused as why protestors are being protected from illegal arrest but not random legal citizen sitting in their home. But if the ruling is as it's being described we will see if ICE gives two fucks about a court order in short term, and if they don't will anyone actually even try to stop them.
Hope nobody in MN wants real Mexican food anytime soon. There's a lot of local Mexican places that are closed because workers are scared to go in.
I'm in the far suburbs and I've even gotten a few closure notices from restaurants I occasionally haunt. That second link was trying to keep a running list going but I'm certain it's scratching the surface.