It's not a "flagship," but it's just as lux-looking and powerful, and it starts at $799.
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HP Envy 13 mini-review: Spectre fans, meet your budget option
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That "unconventional" hinge looks like it's putting a lot of stress on the hinges, and probably causing a lot of friction on on the back edge of the top of the screen.
I feel like a lot of these types of laptops are competing, maybe only subliminally, with Mac laptops. While I've long been a Mac user, I've never been less compelled by MacOS than nowadays. I find Windows 10 to finally be a version of Windows that almost does everything the way I want them to do it. But I'm finding that there are frustrating compromises with just about Windows laptop.
This has incredible specs for the price. I'd get it over a Mac no question if it was just that. But it looks like the engineering quality may have more compromises than I'd feel comfortable sinking $1,000+ into.
I feel like a lot of these types of laptops are competing, maybe only subliminally, with Mac laptops. While I've long been a Mac user, I've never been less compelled by MacOS than nowadays. I find Windows 10 to finally be a version of Windows that almost does everything the way I want them to do it. But I'm finding that there are frustrating compromises with just about Windows laptop.
This has incredible specs for the price. I'd get it over a Mac no question if it was just that. But it looks like the engineering quality may have more compromises than I'd feel comfortable sinking $1,000+ into.
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I'd like the answer to this also. I find matte screens more practical on a laptop as you're often using it in lighting conditions that you have no control over.
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Yeah, they charge an insane amount for the ram upgrade, but everything else is reasonable.
Unfortunately, the ram is the thing you can't replace, so for power users with 16gb ram, the price is closer to $1000.
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Both of those exist. The V6 Camry makes 300 HP. Intel's ULV chipsets have supported 32GB since the 6th gen/Skylake (4 years ago!).
You just gotta get away from consumer laptops and LPDDR3 and towards laptops with DIMM slots. I could put 32GB in my mom's T560 if I wanted to, and that's just a ULV office box from 2016. The T590 takes 48GB!
It's a similar issue with ports - if you like ethernet, external displays, and USB drives, modern consumer laptops are sub-par. But the business ones got you covered.
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NO NO NO NO NO
I have an Envy 13 (2017), it is the flakiest piece of garbage ever made. It bluescreens, sometimes the SSD is mysteriously offline, the out of date IGP driver frequently takes a dump. I memtested it, no that isn’t the problem. Put your money directly in the trash before buying anything HP.
(HP claimed my warranty started a year before I bought it, I couldn’t get them to fix shit.)
I have an Envy 13 (2017), it is the flakiest piece of garbage ever made. It bluescreens, sometimes the SSD is mysteriously offline, the out of date IGP driver frequently takes a dump. I memtested it, no that isn’t the problem. Put your money directly in the trash before buying anything HP.
(HP claimed my warranty started a year before I bought it, I couldn’t get them to fix shit.)
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I have found some non Apple laptops to be compelling in features, the biggest drawback on many are that they come with Win10. Linux laptops would be fine.
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This was the same issue with Apple Laptops and Minis until this last refresh (or two for MBPs) where they now give you DDR4 RAM options (on minis and the 15" MBPs).
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A mini-review for a mini-laptop. I have several 14" laptops, 2 with FHD screens. I can't really envision going smaller still at that resolution. I don't really see the need for higher res on any laptop; on the small screen of a smartphone, sure, but not on a laptop display--it just isn't very useful. My oldest laptop is a 15.6" from the days when all [real] laptops were either 15.6 or 17.3 inches; I can't really see myself getting another laptop that isn't 15.6" at least--no "mobility" needed. (Which for me means "premium" doesn't really apply to a 13 inch laptop, even if it comes with a premium price.) I do love my 2 HP laptops best though.
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The only HP models worth looking at are their enterprise models. Their consumer gear is just not up to snuff quality-wise.
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Does anyone even make a matte non-touchscreen laptop anymore? I'm curious if any of you out there regularly use touchscreens on your laptops in your workflows and if so how. I bought a Surface Book thinking I'd use the pen all the time, but I only used it to show it off and never even think about using it any more.
I guess I could always get a Mac and put Windows on it
I guess I could always get a Mac and put Windows on it
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"Nevertheless, the fingerprint reader works as promised"
How well does it actually work? I have a Spectre x360, which has the fingerprint sensor in the same place, and it's by far the worst sensor I've ever had the misfortune of using. It actually lets me log in maybe 1/2 the time on a good day, and more like 1/10 overall. Considering how good the sensors are even on cheap phones, HP must have put a lot of effort into making it work so poorly. I can only assume it's not part of the power button because they knew most people would want to just ignore the useless thing entirely.
How well does it actually work? I have a Spectre x360, which has the fingerprint sensor in the same place, and it's by far the worst sensor I've ever had the misfortune of using. It actually lets me log in maybe 1/2 the time on a good day, and more like 1/10 overall. Considering how good the sensors are even on cheap phones, HP must have put a lot of effort into making it work so poorly. I can only assume it's not part of the power button because they knew most people would want to just ignore the useless thing entirely.
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Weird, neowin confirm w/ HP that the USB-C can be use for charging also. In addition to that, I check the "Maintenance and Service Guide", not the normal user guide. And it did confirm that on page 10. http://h10032.www1.hp.com/ctg/Manual/c06271813
"USB 3.1 Gen 1 Type-C port (supports data transfer, power delivery 3.0, DisplayPort 1.2 [4096 × 2160 at 60
Hz] through Type-C adapter, HDMI 2.0 through adapter, HDCP 2.2 through adapter)*"
"USB 3.1 Gen 1 Type-C port (supports data transfer, power delivery 3.0, DisplayPort 1.2 [4096 × 2160 at 60
Hz] through Type-C adapter, HDMI 2.0 through adapter, HDCP 2.2 through adapter)*"
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In my personal experience, USB-PD w/ 45w can charge the laptop when it's not in use, eg: sleep or power down. USB-PD 60w is the ideal minimum in my opinion to actually use and charge at the same time, with that said, I do see that 60w may not be enough in the case you are doing something CPU intensive. As long as you are not doing something CPU intensive all the time you should be able to get by using USB-PD 60w charger, otherwise, I say get something beefier or stick w/ the barrel charging.
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