Former NOAA researcher comments on whistleblower allegations

He says the study wasn't rushed. Journal <i>Science</i> confirms peer-review wasn’t either.

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[THavoc]

House Science Committee Chair Rep. Lamar Smith's (R-TX) latest allegation against NOAA climate scientists was that the organization's recent research study was “rushed.”

Has his "whistleblower" come forth yet or any additional details?

I don't recall seeing anything new about it.

 

[trimeta]

THavoc[/url]":3rhnpicz]

House Science Committee Chair Rep. Lamar Smith's (R-TX) latest allegation against NOAA climate scientists was that the organization's recent research study was “rushed.”

Has his "whistleblower" come forth yet or any additional details?

I don't recall seeing anything new about it.

I hear this "whistleblower" also has a list of 100 NOAA scientists who are registered members of the Communist Party!

 

[THavoc]

trimeta[/url]":1pi0axqk]

THavoc[/url]":1pi0axqk]

House Science Committee Chair Rep. Lamar Smith's (R-TX) latest allegation against NOAA climate scientists was that the organization's recent research study was “rushed.”

Has his "whistleblower" come forth yet or any additional details?

I don't recall seeing anything new about it.

I hear this "whistleblower" also has a list of 100 NOAA scientists who are registered members of the Communist Party!

Only 100? Personally, I think it's all of them. /s

 

[citizencoyote]

Shhh. Well-reasoned discourse tends to make Rep. Lamar Smith grumpy before he's had his afternoon nap and binky.

 

[Onyx Spartan II]

That second letter is even more glorious than the first. I wish I lived in Rep. Johnson's district so I could vote for her. She called Smith out on every single piece of BS he's spouted.

 

[Deleted member 276317]

Smith will face no negative consequence for his action.

 

[wyrmhole]

THavoc[/url]":2svkaaus]

trimeta[/url]":2svkaaus]

THavoc[/url]":2svkaaus]

House Science Committee Chair Rep. Lamar Smith's (R-TX) latest allegation against NOAA climate scientists was that the organization's recent research study was “rushed.”

Has his "whistleblower" come forth yet or any additional details?

I don't recall seeing anything new about it.

I hear this "whistleblower" also has a list of 100 NOAA scientists who are registered members of the Communist Party!

Only 100? Personally, I think it's all of them. /s

You're doing it wrong! If you say it's all of them then all they need is one unassailably Republican scientist who donated a ton of money to Lamar Smith's campaign and the jig is up.

Instead, you wave around your list of the alarmingly large subset of the NOAA who are Communists. It's not all of them. Any obvious non-Communist simply isn't on the list. But it's all the ones who are who should scare you. Oh, and of course nobody gets to see the list...

 

[Iphtashu Fitz]

“These might be the most outrageous statements ever made by a Chair of the Committee on Science," [Rep. Eddie Bernice Johnson ] said. "The Constitution doesn’t provide you with a blank check to harass research scientists with whose results you disagree. The Constitution doesn’t imbue you with the power to sanction a separate and equal branch of government simply because they won’t entertain your baseless conspiracy theories.”

So glad to see that at least one other member of Congress is calling out Smith on these antics of his.

 

[THavoc]

wyrmhole[/url]":bs5j8nfw]

THavoc[/url]":bs5j8nfw]

trimeta[/url]":bs5j8nfw]

THavoc[/url]":bs5j8nfw]

House Science Committee Chair Rep. Lamar Smith's (R-TX) latest allegation against NOAA climate scientists was that the organization's recent research study was “rushed.”

Has his "whistleblower" come forth yet or any additional details?

I don't recall seeing anything new about it.

I hear this "whistleblower" also has a list of 100 NOAA scientists who are registered members of the Communist Party!

Only 100? Personally, I think it's all of them. /s

You're doing it wrong! If you say it's all of them then all they need is one unassailably Republican scientist who donated a ton of money to Lamar Smith's campaign and the jig is up.

Instead, you wave around your list of the alarmingly large subset of the NOAA who are Communists. It's not all of them. Any obvious non-Communist simply isn't on the list. But it's all the ones who are who should scare you. Oh, and of course nobody gets to see the list...

I was never very good at this sort of thing. It's probably why I can't hold a public office.

 

[andrewb610]

THavoc[/url]":188us7ic]

wyrmhole[/url]":188us7ic]

THavoc[/url]":188us7ic]

trimeta[/url]":188us7ic]

THavoc[/url]":188us7ic]

House Science Committee Chair Rep. Lamar Smith's (R-TX) latest allegation against NOAA climate scientists was that the organization's recent research study was “rushed.”

Has his "whistleblower" come forth yet or any additional details?

I don't recall seeing anything new about it.

I hear this "whistleblower" also has a list of 100 NOAA scientists who are registered members of the Communist Party!

Only 100? Personally, I think it's all of them. /s

You're doing it wrong! If you say it's all of them then all they need is one unassailably Republican scientist who donated a ton of money to Lamar Smith's campaign and the jig is up.

Instead, you wave around your list of the alarmingly large subset of the NOAA who are Communists. It's not all of them. Any obvious non-Communist simply isn't on the list. But it's all the ones who are who should scare you. Oh, and of course nobody gets to see the list...

I was never very good at this sort of thing. It's probably why I can't hold a public office.

I can't hold public office because of the things like the previous comment I made: based on a premise of misreading the article and headline.

 

[snowman<ca>]

To be fair, if you are use to Senate timelines anything happening in less than a few decades seems shockingly fast.

 

[Onyx Spartan II]

Iphtashu Fitz[/url]":197a931m]

“These might be the most outrageous statements ever made by a Chair of the Committee on Science," [Rep. Eddie Bernice Johnson ] said. "The Constitution doesn’t provide you with a blank check to harass research scientists with whose results you disagree. The Constitution doesn’t imbue you with the power to sanction a separate and equal branch of government simply because they won’t entertain your baseless conspiracy theories.”

So glad to see that at least one other member of Congress is calling out Smith on these antics of his.

From Rep. Johnson's letters, it looks like Smith is actually keeping the entirety of the Minority on the committee in the dark about this. No surprise there. Most of them are probably fed up and are letting Rep. Johnson be the spokeswoman. I'm actually gleeful at the increasing amount of derision as the letter goes on.

Matakage[/url]":197a931m]Ooh, a story about a republican! Will this post be buried in a steaming pile of baseless insults within the larger liberal circle-jerk landfill? Well this is an Internet article comment section, so I bet it will!

Here, there's another article about a Republican that was mostly praised. The problem isn't that Smith is a Republican, but that he's an anti-science moron using his Congressional powers for a personal witch hunt.

 

[d4Njv]

Pulling no punches regarding Rep. Smith’s public accusations of politicallymotivated data manipulation, Rep. Johnson continued. “These might be the most outrageous statements ever made by a Chair of the Committee on Science," he said. "

As the saying goes, extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence other than simply not liking the results.

 

[rougegoat]

Pulling no punches regarding Rep. Smith’s public accusations of politically motivated data manipulation, Rep. Johnson continued. “These might be the most outrageous statements ever made by a Chair of the Committee on Science," he said.

It looks like you have a pronoun mixup in the last paragraph.

 

[helel ben shachar]

Matakage[/url]":3c7q0h8i]Ooh, a story about a republican! Will this post be buried in a steaming pile of baseless insults within the larger liberal circle-jerk landfill? Well this is an Internet article comment section, so I bet it will!

Obvious troll is rather obvious today it seems. The Soap Box is that way, around the corner, to your left ----->

 

[wyrmhole]

andrewb610[/url]":311grsoy]

THavoc[/url]":311grsoy]

wyrmhole[/url]":311grsoy]
You're doing it wrong! If you say it's all of them then all they need is one unassailably Republican scientist who donated a ton of money to Lamar Smith's campaign and the jig is up.

Instead, you wave around your list of the alarmingly large subset of the NOAA who are Communists. It's not all of them. Any obvious non-Communist simply isn't on the list. But it's all the ones who are who should scare you. Oh, and of course nobody gets to see the list...

I was never very good at this sort of thing. It's probably why I can't hold a public office.

I can't hold public office because of the things like the previous comment I made: based on a premise of misreading the article and headline.

The reason you can't hold office is because once you realized that you'd misunderstood the article, you admitted your mistake and updated your understanding.

 

[THavoc]

wyrmhole[/url]":mpfzexxw]

andrewb610[/url]":mpfzexxw]

THavoc[/url]":mpfzexxw]

wyrmhole[/url]":mpfzexxw]
You're doing it wrong! If you say it's all of them then all they need is one unassailably Republican scientist who donated a ton of money to Lamar Smith's campaign and the jig is up.

Instead, you wave around your list of the alarmingly large subset of the NOAA who are Communists. It's not all of them. Any obvious non-Communist simply isn't on the list. But it's all the ones who are who should scare you. Oh, and of course nobody gets to see the list...

I was never very good at this sort of thing. It's probably why I can't hold a public office.

I can't hold public office because of the things like the previous comment I made: based on a premise of misreading the article and headline.

The reason you can't hold office is because once you realized that you'd misunderstood the article, you admitted your mistake and updated your understanding.

So he's a flip-flopper then? That explains a lot.

 

[andrewb610]

wyrmhole[/url]":2ovbjx8u]

andrewb610[/url]":2ovbjx8u]

THavoc[/url]":2ovbjx8u]

wyrmhole[/url]":2ovbjx8u]
You're doing it wrong! If you say it's all of them then all they need is one unassailably Republican scientist who donated a ton of money to Lamar Smith's campaign and the jig is up.

Instead, you wave around your list of the alarmingly large subset of the NOAA who are Communists. It's not all of them. Any obvious non-Communist simply isn't on the list. But it's all the ones who are who should scare you. Oh, and of course nobody gets to see the list...

I was never very good at this sort of thing. It's probably why I can't hold a public office.

I can't hold public office because of the things like the previous comment I made: based on a premise of misreading the article and headline.

The reason you can't hold office is because once you realized that you'd misunderstood the article, you admitted your mistake and updated your understanding.

Crap, you're right. CRAP....did it again.

 

[Baron von Robber]

 

[SixDegrees]

THavoc[/url]":ej6ooaxd]

House Science Committee Chair Rep. Lamar Smith's (R-TX) latest allegation against NOAA climate scientists was that the organization's recent research study was “rushed.”

Has his "whistleblower" come forth yet or any additional details?

I don't recall seeing anything new about it.

They're holding a seance to ask him about it tonight, I believe.

 

[ScottJohnson]

rougegoat[/url]":80d85mk7]

Pulling no punches regarding Rep. Smith’s public accusations of politically motivated data manipulation, Rep. Johnson continued. “These might be the most outrageous statements ever made by a Chair of the Committee on Science," he said.

It looks like you have a pronoun mixup in the last paragraph.

Fixed- thanks.

 

[dlux]

THavoc[/url]":19a6j62o]Has his "whistleblower" come forth yet or any additional details?

I think the only whistle getting blown is a dog whistle.

 

[SixDegrees]

sondjata[/url]":2o265sm2][Downvote provocation forthcoming]

I find it interesting that with the coverage given this fellow and the assertion about the science behind climate change, that there has been no reporting on those who have claimed that climate change is the reason for ISIS and conflict in the Middle East. The latest two making this claim are Bernie Sanders and Prince Charles. Can we get an article that takes these two to task for making these completely unsupported claims?


The data: http://www.ncdc.noaa.gov/news/explainin ... vents-2014

Uh - what? Do you have a link to Sanders making such a claim? Because all I've found is a speech he made stating that climate change is a severe national security threat that may outstrip the threats posed by ISIS and the Middle East conflicts. I don't see where he made any connection between those threats and climate change, though.

 

[SixDegrees]

I have to go drain my lamar.

 

[not trending]

That letter from Rep. Johnson - oh, how I admire the guts, and the sharp pen of hers! Karl Kraus couldn't have written a better take-down of a public figure.

 

[llama-lime]

sondjata[/url]":3c6i1rwn][Downvote provocation forthcoming]

I find it interesting that with the coverage given this fellow and the assertion about the science behind climate change, that there has been no reporting on those who have claimed that climate change is the reason for ISIS and conflict in the Middle East. The latest two making this claim are Bernie Sanders and Prince Charles. Can we get an article that takes these two to task for making these completely unsupported claims?


The data: http://www.ncdc.noaa.gov/news/explainin ... vents-2014

update: And the reason climate change isn't at the root of Syria, et-al, is because this is not a battle over resources.

Those are political claims, not scientific ones, so they don't really have a place here. Many security experts disagree with your assertions, so it's not clear cut even within the political realm.. When those politicians start harassing scientists for normal scientific endeavors, that will be a big story.

 

[THavoc]

SixDegrees[/url]":1saeu2dz]

sondjata[/url]":1saeu2dz][Downvote provocation forthcoming]

I find it interesting that with the coverage given this fellow and the assertion about the science behind climate change, that there has been no reporting on those who have claimed that climate change is the reason for ISIS and conflict in the Middle East. The latest two making this claim are Bernie Sanders and Prince Charles. Can we get an article that takes these two to task for making these completely unsupported claims?


The data: http://www.ncdc.noaa.gov/news/explainin ... vents-2014

Uh - what? Do you have a link to Sanders making such a claim? Because all I've found is a speech he made stating that climate change is a severe national security threat that threatens to outstrip the threats posed by ISIS and the Middle East conflicts. I don't see where he made any connection between those threats and climate change, though.

I don't recall reading about him making such a claim either.

Edit: I did find this:
http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/pre ... -terrorism

Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.) on Sunday reiterated his claim that climate change will lead to terrorism by destabilizing regions affected by droughts, floods, and other natural disasters.

But he isn't saying that GW caused ISIS, just that it will cause additional terrorism in the future.

 

[dlux]

SixDegrees[/url]":1vgd814f]I have to go drain my lamar.

Just don't let it mix with any santorum. The fumes will kill you.

 

[SixDegrees]

andrewb610[/url]":2r9vqu9w]

SixDegrees[/url]":2r9vqu9w]

sondjata[/url]":2r9vqu9w][Downvote provocation forthcoming]

I find it interesting that with the coverage given this fellow and the assertion about the science behind climate change, that there has been no reporting on those who have claimed that climate change is the reason for ISIS and conflict in the Middle East. The latest two making this claim are Bernie Sanders and Prince Charles. Can we get an article that takes these two to task for making these completely unsupported claims?


The data: http://www.ncdc.noaa.gov/news/explainin ... vents-2014

Uh - what? Do you have a link to Sanders making such a claim? Because all I've found is a speech he made stating that climate change is a severe national security threat that threatens to outstrip the threats posed by ISIS and the Middle East conflicts. I don't see where he made any connection between those threats and climate change, though.

While I don't have a source on hand to copy here, I can confirm that I he said that.

The Internet seems to have missed that utterance, somehow.

 

[andrewb610]

SixDegrees[/url]":ati26dm0]

andrewb610[/url]":ati26dm0]

SixDegrees[/url]":ati26dm0]

sondjata[/url]":ati26dm0][Downvote provocation forthcoming]

I find it interesting that with the coverage given this fellow and the assertion about the science behind climate change, that there has been no reporting on those who have claimed that climate change is the reason for ISIS and conflict in the Middle East. The latest two making this claim are Bernie Sanders and Prince Charles. Can we get an article that takes these two to task for making these completely unsupported claims?


The data: http://www.ncdc.noaa.gov/news/explainin ... vents-2014

Uh - what? Do you have a link to Sanders making such a claim? Because all I've found is a speech he made stating that climate change is a severe national security threat that threatens to outstrip the threats posed by ISIS and the Middle East conflicts. I don't see where he made any connection between those threats and climate change, though.

While I don't have a source on hand to copy here, I can confirm that I he said that.

The Internet seems to have missed that utterance, somehow.

I updated my post with a link.

 

[SixDegrees]

andrewb610[/url]":2bp4jyxm]

SixDegrees[/url]":2bp4jyxm]

sondjata[/url]":2bp4jyxm][Downvote provocation forthcoming]

I find it interesting that with the coverage given this fellow and the assertion about the science behind climate change, that there has been no reporting on those who have claimed that climate change is the reason for ISIS and conflict in the Middle East. The latest two making this claim are Bernie Sanders and Prince Charles. Can we get an article that takes these two to task for making these completely unsupported claims?


The data: http://www.ncdc.noaa.gov/news/explainin ... vents-2014

Uh - what? Do you have a link to Sanders making such a claim? Because all I've found is a speech he made stating that climate change is a severe national security threat that threatens to outstrip the threats posed by ISIS and the Middle East conflicts. I don't see where he made any connection between those threats and climate change, though.

While I don't have a source on hand to copy here, I can confirm that I he said that.
Edit: There

Your belated link simply restates what I already posted. Sanders didn't say what you claim he did; he's quite clear in noting that climate change represents a serious national security threat, but doesn't tie it to the specifics you mention.

He does make a case that people in need - like those suffering drought and famine, for example - are much more prone to adopt terrorist ideologies than those who don't suffer from such want. But this is simply common knowledge.

 

[SixDegrees]

THavoc[/url]":19eo4qcb]

SixDegrees[/url]":19eo4qcb]

sondjata[/url]":19eo4qcb][Downvote provocation forthcoming]

I find it interesting that with the coverage given this fellow and the assertion about the science behind climate change, that there has been no reporting on those who have claimed that climate change is the reason for ISIS and conflict in the Middle East. The latest two making this claim are Bernie Sanders and Prince Charles. Can we get an article that takes these two to task for making these completely unsupported claims?


The data: http://www.ncdc.noaa.gov/news/explainin ... vents-2014

Uh - what? Do you have a link to Sanders making such a claim? Because all I've found is a speech he made stating that climate change is a severe national security threat that threatens to outstrip the threats posed by ISIS and the Middle East conflicts. I don't see where he made any connection between those threats and climate change, though.

I don't recall reading about him making such a claim either.

Edit: I did find this:
http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/pre ... -terrorism

Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.) on Sunday reiterated his claim that climate change will lead to terrorism by destabilizing regions affected by droughts, floods, and other natural disasters.

But he isn't saying that GW caused ISIS, just that it will cause additional terrorism in the future.

That was my reading as well.

 

[andrewb610]

SixDegrees[/url]":4mo82gwr]

andrewb610[/url]":4mo82gwr]

SixDegrees[/url]":4mo82gwr]

sondjata[/url]":4mo82gwr][Downvote provocation forthcoming]

I find it interesting that with the coverage given this fellow and the assertion about the science behind climate change, that there has been no reporting on those who have claimed that climate change is the reason for ISIS and conflict in the Middle East. The latest two making this claim are Bernie Sanders and Prince Charles. Can we get an article that takes these two to task for making these completely unsupported claims?


The data: http://www.ncdc.noaa.gov/news/explainin ... vents-2014

Uh - what? Do you have a link to Sanders making such a claim? Because all I've found is a speech he made stating that climate change is a severe national security threat that threatens to outstrip the threats posed by ISIS and the Middle East conflicts. I don't see where he made any connection between those threats and climate change, though.

While I don't have a source on hand to copy here, I can confirm that I he said that.
Edit: There

Your belated link simply restates what I already posted. Sanders didn't say what you claim he did; he's quite clear in noting that climate change represents a serious national security threat, but doesn't tie it to the specifics you mention.

He does make a case that people in need - like those suffering drought and famine, for example - are much more prone to adopt terrorist ideologies than those who don't suffer from such want. But this is simply common knowledge.

Man I need to have my reading skills checked apparently.

 

[RaceBannon]

sondjata[/url]":3v68lzvt][Downvote provocation forthcoming]

I find it interesting that with the coverage given this fellow and the assertion about the science behind climate change, that there has been no reporting on those who have claimed that climate change is the reason for ISIS and conflict in the Middle East. The latest two making this claim are Bernie Sanders and Prince Charles. Can we get an article that takes these two to task for making these completely unsupported claims?


The data: http://www.ncdc.noaa.gov/news/explainin ... vents-2014

update: And the reason climate change isn't at the root of Syria, et-al, is because this is not a battle over resources.

There is some science behind the assertion:

Climate Change Helped Spark Syrian War, Study Says