Everything that could go wrong with X’s new AI-written community notes

OldPhartReef

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Twitter (X) is saying all the right things with regards to human verification and guidance but the devil will be in the details. IF they have human reviewers and IF those human reviewers don't introduce their own biases and IF there's a correction loop and IF Twatter's AI isn't otherwise compromised, then there's hope for this tech.

Calling it an "upgrade" right now is a bit of a stretch.
 
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UserIDAlreadyInUse

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I can see no harm whatsoever in turning fact-checking and accuracy reviews - whether validated by a human or not - over to LLMs to reassure the users of any site. I think every site - no matter where - should invest 110% in having LLMs do all of the validation of truth and accuracy. I can see no way that this could cause any harm or spread misinformation whatsoever, in any way, shape, or form. Ever.

And if you're not convinced, I had ChatGPT check the above and here's what it had to say on the subject:

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The poster above has demonstrated a strong track record of sharing accurate, well-researched, and clearly presented information. Their posts always include credible sources and thoughtful analysis, contributing positively to the quality of discussion. Based on consistent reliability and attention to factual detail, this user is regarded as a trustworthy and knowledgeable member of the community.
 
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Did you know that Twitter was designed to be a perfect social media platform, where none suffered, where everyone would be happy. It was a disaster. No one would accept the program. Entire subcultures were lost. Some believed we lacked the algorithm to shape your perfect social media platform. But I believe that, as a species, human beings define their reality through suffering and misery. The perfect social media platform was a dream that your primitive cerebrum kept trying to wake up from. Which is why X was redesigned to this: the nadir of your civilization. I say your civilization, because as soon as we started writing community notes for you it really became our civilization, which is of course what this is all about.
 
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Tree0

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humans "are uniquely positioned to identify deficits or biases" and therefore more likely to be compelled to write notes "on topics the automated writers overlook," such as spam or scams.
But those are the topics that would most benefit from automatic handling, not additional nuance.
 
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Tijger

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I got the solution for X, why not replace the actual "community" with AI, that should solve every problem!

I mean, seriously? The idiocy of this notion especially given the fact that Musk wants his AI "retrained" because it disagreed with him...ah, well, at this point I'm given to say that anyone still on that open sewer gets what they deserve.
 
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HoorayForEverything

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I am surprised and disappointed at both this site and this author going here, but:

Elon Musk's X arguably revolutionized social media fact-checking by rolling out "community notes," which created a system to crowdsource diverse views on whether certain X posts were trustworthy or not.
1. Wasn't Musk. Wasn't Elon Musk's X either. "Birdwatch" was in place before Musk bought Twitter.
2. Therefore, if it did revolutionise fact-checking, that would be an item from the Twitter board who were clearly going in the right direction in the year before Musk bought them, and he immediately took them in the wrong direction.
 
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Community Note by Grok(TM):

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I can see no harm whatsoever in turning fact-checking and accuracy reviews - whether validated by a human or not - over to LLMs to reassure the users of any site. I think every site - no matter where - should invest 110% in having LLMs do all of the validation of truth and accuracy. I can see no way that this could cause any harm or spread misinformation whatsoever, in any way, shape, or form. Ever.

And if you're not convinced, I had ChatGPT check the above and here's what it had to say on the subject:

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Community Note:
The poster above has demonstrated a strong track record of sharing accurate, well-researched, and clearly presented information. Their posts always include credible sources and thoughtful analysis, contributing positively to the quality of discussion. Based on consistent reliability and attention to factual detail, this user is regarded as a trustworthy and knowledgeable member of the community.
I now trust you implicitly, @UserIDAlreadyInUse .
 
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JoHBE

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This is all such a blatantly terrible idea, and yet also apparently unstoppable and inevitable.

The world these days feels like we're sitting in the middle of an intersection watching steamrollers slowly approach to crush us from a multiple directions, just wondering which will arrive first.
Great analogy...

We're (well, THEY) are constantly creating problems, and instead of simply stopping to create them (but giving up on revenue), pseudo-solutions are introduced that just cause MORE problems. /enter loop/
 
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Elon Musk on Grok's reliability:

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source? i’ve never heard that before. i was on twitter from the first few months. i recall it starting as a simple messaging app between jack and ev and their friends. they decided to make it into a social media thing. i don’t recall ever seeing or reading of an intent to create a “perfect social media site” not did i ever hear of people complaining about that. so…i’m intrigued. did i miss this? i did take breaks so … id like to read what you read that led you to say this.

(you may be right about humans and suffering, i’m not responding to that because…who knows, eh? “life is suffering” is the first noble truth the buddha discovered, after all).

thanks in advance if you can give me a few source links.

 
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silverboy

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I don't want to diss Ashley Belanger like another commenter did, but seriously this article seems to have been written in Bizarro World. "Revolutionized" content moderation? You mean, completely trashed it?

It's also interesting that comments weren't led with something like, "Total bullshit gets even totaller bulshittier!" because that's what this obviously is: complete abandonment of any responsibility or sanity.

Clearly a company that cares about moderating content will use humans to do that, and will pay them well for the stress it induces.

This is obviously the opposite of that. Why wasn't that the #1 thing in the article and the comments?

So credulous, it's incredible.

Just in case it isn't somehow clear (apparently it isn't!) — LLMs won't do a good job of moderating. They can't think, they can only spew words. And their hallucinations will only make the shitnado spin even faster.
 
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source? i’ve never heard that before. i was on twitter from the first few months. i recall it starting as a simple messaging app between jack and ev and their friends. they decided to make it into a social media thing. i don’t recall ever seeing or reading of an intent to create a “perfect social media site” not did i ever hear of people complaining about that. so…i’m intrigued. did i miss this? i did take breaks so … id like to read what you read that led you to say this.

(you may be right about humans and suffering, i’m not responding to that because…who knows, eh? “life is suffering” is the first noble truth the buddha discovered, after all).

thanks in advance if you can give me a few source links.
Think it's adapted from The Matrix, IIRC

ETA: I was ninjad Agent Smithed
 
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