European Union orders X to hand over algorithm documents

abundance

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Why exactly does the United States need NATO? In case we’re attacked by Canada or Mexico? They threaten and condemn one of our only true allies - Israel.
Just wait to see them back down when the U.S. starts banning imports and hits them with sanctions to block them from the dollar. US power is going to increase tremendously over the next 4 years and hopefully beyond.
Lewl dude.

NATO is the main tool that allows the US to shepherd Europe into toeing its geopolitical line.

The US dollar being the global exchange currency is the main tool that allows the US to be super rich.

If your aim is to severely impoverish, weaken and isolate the US empire, getting rid of both is by far the best plan.
 
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Tijger

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Why exactly does the United States need NATO? In case we’re attacked by Canada or Mexico? They threaten and condemn one of our only true allies - Israel.

The only time NATO invoked art 5 to assist another member state under attack the state in question was the US.

The good lord, he claims to be, thinks that the Mango Mistake has the will and the capability to ban EU from using the US dollar, because they are OUR dollars

Fitting, no other posts of his make more sense than this, and often appear even more nonsensical

The EU has its own currency, you are aware of that, yes? Its called, no surprise, the Euro. The EU does not need the US dollar.

Your posts almost sound like a parody of an utterly stupid MAGA supporter...at least I hope its a parody.
 
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Madestjohn

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Do the oligarchs understand that ?
as far as what the oligarchs understand I honestly don’t think its much

while its always rather shocking when you realize how ignorant and dense so many of the privileged elites actually are there is a necessary minimum cunning required to rise above your peers

unfortunately its almost always too focused on short term, exploiting apparent opportunities to expand their wealth and privilege, to look up or seek a broader understanding or long term goal

but Gary here has some thoughts

View: https://youtu.be/wPoXOwiEfrQ?si=6oPXs0PJBl-N0knN
 
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Spunjji

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the only reason they are picking on X is because they don't like his personal opinions; which really reinforces the issue he has with the EU and UK. eg. people getting jailed for their social media posts that go against the government approved narrative. The UK/EU slip further and further each year towards a system that bans any and all free expression that they happen to disagree with.
Can't decide what is the most annoying thing about these decrepit underused accounts that invariably show up on any tangentially related thread to spew the exact same copy-paste freeze peach narratives.

Is it the reliably abysmal grammar?
Is it the grasping, clawing, gnashing desperation to be perceived as some sort of victim for the way some parts of society dare to reject their "pErSoNaL oPiNiOns" - opinions which they apparently hold dearly but will not ever state directly?
Is it the lying - oh, gods, the constant lying? (See bolded text: THIS HAS NEVER HAPPENED)
Is it that it has been helping fascists win elections?

Just kidding, it's all of the above.
 
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rochefort

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The US dollar being the global exchange currency is the main tool that allows the US to be super rich.
The US doesn't benefit that much from the dollar being the global exchange currency. To quote one Nobel (Memorial) laureate who won the prize for trade-related work:
...I can’t see any way that, considering all this together, dollar dominance is worth more to America than a fraction of 1 percent of G.D.P.
 
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abundance

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The US doesn't benefit that much from the dollar being the global exchange currency. To quote one Nobel (Memorial) laureate who won the prize for trade-related work:
Too bad nobody explained this to the White House when they perverted the response to 9/11 and lied in front of the UN to justify the invasion of Iraq which had just started to trade oil in Euros.
 
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looks a little long in the tooth.

youtube does this. facebook has done this forever. The trump interview on rogan had something like 38 million views in 3 days and you couldn't even find it in the youtube search results. it had been shadow-banned. after public pressure they finally apologized and said sorry here it is.

the only reason they are picking on X is because they don't like his personal opinions; which really reinforces the issue he has with the EU and UK. eg. people getting jailed for their social media posts that go against the government approved narrative. The UK/EU slip further and further each year towards a system that bans any and all free expression that they happen to disagree with.

I understand that most of the ARS commenters lean far left (that used to be me for the last 27 years). Despite how much someone hates trump, or hates musk, just keep an open mind about this one thing: you are helping to support a machine that tries to crush any expression that lies outside of a specific narrative that is driven by the government and supported by almost all media. That works for you now because you happen to agree with it ( I did for a very long time). however, one day, that machine will be pushing a narrative that you do not agree with at all. and when that day comes, and statistically speaking it will, there will be no recourse to do anything about it. it will be too late.
Is fact checking censorship?

Do you see no problem with propaganda being the status quo for social media?

Why have any of the STEM groups if evidence is secondary to assumed common sense?

You say EU and UK are banning free speech, I see the US as banning facts that get in the way of a new oligarchy.
 
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Madestjohn

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honestly I installed that awhile ago just to see ‘the alternative’

hated it
but I was never a twitter user either and just found it a mobile version of facebook

- and I hate facebook


then I remembered I hate people
not individually… but in any kinda group
actually can’t handle crowds

- I think its because my Job used to
be handling crowds ( mostly crew on a film set )
and I hated being a boss


i was a bad boss

Even after I learned the only reason to yell was because you’re scared

I still yelled


crowds of people scare me
 
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aschettler

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During 2024, my notifications for Twitter X were mostly right-wing propaganda. I never tapped on any of it (though I did expand individual notifications to see what the hell they were), nor have I ever followed or even Googled any of the "creators" that those posts were coming from.

I'm about as anti-Trump as a person can be.

So, at least anecdotally, it does seem like the platform was used to promote propagandist nonsense.

I hope the EU finds proof of this and takes punitive actions so the puny rich tool running the show actually hurts a little.
I don't use Twitter to follow politics, and I especially don't follow right-wing creators, yet my entire recommended content page was right-wing, pro-Trump content. The only ads I saw on the platform running up to the election were ads for Trump. Although I tried many times to block ads and ad topics for his campaign, they just kept coming.
 
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JagCat

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honestly I installed that awhile ago just to see ‘the alternative’

hated it
but I was never a twitter user either and just found it a mobile version of facebook

- and I hate facebook


then I remembered I hate people
not individually… but in any kinda group
actually can’t handle crowds

- I think its because my Job used to
be handling crowds ( mostly crew on a film set )
and I hated being a boss


i was a bad boss

Even after I learned the only reason to yell was because you’re scared

I still yelled


crowds of people scare me
I joined Bluesky a couple of months ago just to sort of stay in touch with what people were thinking. I quit twitter after Elon took over, and after dumping WAPO, Ars has been the only community I've read regularly.

Bluesky is simple to use, like twitter used to be. It's still being developed, so there are plenty of things that need to be upgraded, but I think they have the right idea. They are also developing a TT-like app, so maybe younger people will be happy with that.

A lot of people there are trying to support more independent media, so I find it helpful in finding news sites that I like/trust.

I'm sorry you have issues with crowds. I'm not too fond of them in person, but I never equated social media with crowds, exactly.
 
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IMO the rules should be written such that it doesn’t matter whether it’s Musk personally, “the algorithm”, a contractor, or the work experience kid - they’re acting on behalf of the company, so it’s the company’s fault and thus the company’s controlling shareholders (i .e. Musk) who are responsible for everything.
You seem to have missed my point. It is not the rules, any rules, that may be a big part of the problem. It is Musk seeing something, then ordering a minion to respond. There are no rules involved here, just the emotional reaction of one person. There would be no trace of this process anywhere in any documentation, it would "just happen" as though by an invisible hand.
 
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You seem to have missed my point. It is not the rules, any rules, that may be a big part of the problem. It is Musk seeing something, then ordering a minion to respond. There are no rules involved here, just the emotional reaction of one person. There would be no trace of this process anywhere in any documentation, it would "just happen" as though by an invisible hand.
Which would get the EU noticing the difference between what is written in whatever rules Musk sends over and how X/Twitter actually moderates things. Proof that the rules Musk sent over aren't the ones that X/Twitter actually uses. Especially if there is evidence of Musk being involved in that discrepancy, like the time he welcomed back someone who was banned for posting CSAM despite a stated zero tolerance policy.

At which point Musk needs to explain how he's being truthful to the court.
 
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