Epstein client list, does it exist or not?

[Wheels Of Confusion]

I kept waiting for this piece from NPR to get to a point about European versus US systems and their recall mechanisms for elected officials.
https://www.npr.org/2026/02/14/nx-s1-5714609/epstein-europe-fallout
But it never mentioned that once.
I happen to think that the mere fact that European governments tend to have stronger institutional and plebecite mechanisms for removing officials from office makes it more likely that those officials will be removed even without invoking those mechanisms. Like, a system with a robust methodology for enforcing accountability tends to be more successful at encouraging accountability than a system without those mechanisms.
Instead it just leaned on "Trump is rich and well-insulated by his political power so ...."

 

[Matisaro]

Not only did they not expect it, they can't conceive of the fact that Democrats would be just fine BBQing the Clintons if they are actually guilty of something. Republicans are so into their mindless leader worship that they can't understand that the rest of the world doesn't function that way.

It's almost exactly the same mental mechanism religious people use when they accuse science of being just a different flavor of religion imho.

 

[Matisaro]

I happen to think that the mere fact that European governments tend to have stronger institutional and plebecite mechanisms for removing officials from office makes it more likely that those officials will be removed even without invoking those mechanisms. Like, a system with a robust methodology for enforcing accountability tends to be more successful at encouraging accountability than a system without those mechanisms.
Instead it just leaned on "Trump is rich and well-insulated by his political power so ...."

This makes sense and Nixon is a good piece of evidence for the hypothesis. Nixon only resigned when the GOP senators made it clear he would lose the impeachment vote.

 

[Lt_Storm]

Steve Bannon was working with Jeffrey Epstein in a plot to bring down the Pope. (Francis) because Francis was working with "globalist elites".

You can't make shit up that's stranger than what's coming out of the Epstein files.

https://www.cnn.com/2026/02/14/world/bannon-epstein-take-down-pope-francis-latam-intl

Well, of course they have to take down the Pope, that guy worships someone named Jesus Christ, and everybody knows that Christian Nationalists like Bannon despise the ideas that man proposed. I mean, take care of immigrants‽ How dare you suggest that should get you into heaven.

 

[Welcome to Darwin]

Well, of course they have to take down the Pope, that guy worships someone named Jesus Christ, and everybody knows that Christian Nationalists like Bannon despise the ideas that man proposed. I mean, take care of immigrants‽ How dare you suggest that should get you into heaven.

I heard a nasty rumor that Jesus might not have been a blond-haired, blue-eyed image of Aryan perfection.

Must have been made up by some dirty liberals like (checks notes) the Catholic Church.

 

[llanitedave]

Not only did they not expect it, they can't conceive of the fact that Democrats would be just fine BBQing the Clintons if they are actually guilty of something. Republicans are so into their mindless leader worship that they can't understand that the rest of the world doesn't function that way.

This so reminds me of the central theme of The Lord of the Rings. Sauron was so convinced of the Ring's power over human obsession that he couldn't conceive of the Democrats choosing to destroy it.

 

[llanitedave]

Democracy has many many flaws of which this is just one. It’s still better than the alternative.

It's not so much an alternative to Democracy that's necessary, it's an alternative to this particular simulation of it.

 

[Kyuu]

This so reminds me of the central theme of The Lord of the Rings. Sauron was so convinced of the Ring's power over human obsession that he couldn't conceive of the Democrats choosing to destroy it.

Well, to be fair, Sauron was right. It took a hobbit to get it Mount Doom. Even then, Frodo still didn't willingly destroy it. But then again I guess maybe he was wrong because the Fellowship was even formed in the first place?

...I think this is one of those metaphors that work less and less the more you try to explore it.

 

[Nvoid82]

Well, to be fair, Sauron was right. It took a hobbit to get it Mount Doom. Even then, Frodo still didn't willingly destroy it. But then again I guess maybe he was wrong because the Fellowship was even formed in the first place?

...I think this is one of those metaphors that work less and less the more you try to explore it.

I think it works really well if you stretch it a bit. If you think of the hobbits as the common folk, the one ring as an adversarial justice system like we have, and the power of the one ring as the ability to pay to play in the US legal system, it’s pretty close to what a solution for the unwillingness to prosecute the various perpetrators might look like.

 

[Scandinavian Film]

Well, to be fair, Sauron was right. It took a hobbit to get it Mount Doom. Even then, Frodo still didn't willingly destroy it. But then again I guess maybe he was wrong because the Fellowship was even formed in the first place?

...I think this is one of those metaphors that work less and less the more you try to explore it.

In a sense, it still does.

When finally able (elected) to destroy the One Ring (fix the US political/economic system), Frodo (the Democrats) turn around and say “you know what? Nah.”

 

[linnen]

In a sense, it still does.

When finally able (elected) to destroy the One Ring (fix the US political/economic system), Frodo (the Democrats) turn around and say “you know what? Nah.”

That the fix will depend on the Democrats' frenemy & sometime opponent, Gollum, to bite it off the Dem's finger and immolate it and themselves?

 

[Shavano]

I heard a nasty rumor that Jesus might not have been a blond-haired, blue-eyed image of Aryan perfection.

Must have been made up by some dirty liberals like (checks notes) the Catholic Church.

Bannon is Catholic. He just thinks the ones that pay attention to what Jesus said about being descent to other people aren't getting the true message.

 

[Made in Hurry]

When finally able (elected) to destroy the One Ring (fix the US political/economic system), Frodo (the Democrats) turn around and say “you know what? Nah.”

There were really several ways to destroy that ring though. I mean, Gandalf could have just called up the eagles, kept the ring in the envelope and dropped it off while in air over mount Doom, but that would have been a short movie. Where are those guys in your system?

 

[Lycanthropos]

There were really several ways to destroy that ring though. I mean, Gandalf could have just called up the eagles, kept the ring in the envelope and dropped it off while in air over mount Doom, but that would have been a short movie. Where are those guys in your system?

Doing THAT would have all but guaranteed one of the eagles took the Ring for themselves and turned into whatever a Balrog-level threat with wings looks like. New kind of dragon?

Which I think that might translate to the currently non-political billionaires; largely unavailable and not willing to actually do anything, technically have the power to help but more likely to make things worse if they did

Edit: spelling

 

[Made in Hurry]

Doing THAT would have all but guaranteed one of the eagles took the Ring for themselves and turned into whatever a Balrong-level threat with wings looks like. New kind of dragon?

That was funny, and i would watch the hell out of that

 

[Shavano]

There were really several ways to destroy that ring though. I mean, Gandalf could have just called up the eagles, kept the ring in the envelope and dropped it off while in air over mount Doom, but that would have been a short movie. Where are those guys in your system?

Nazgul had air superiority until the Ring was destroyed.

Doing THAT would have all but guaranteed one of the eagles took the Ring for themselves and turned into whatever a Balrog-level threat with wings looks like. New kind of dragon?

That too.

Which I think that might translate to the currently non-political billionaires; largely unavailable and not willing to actually do anything, technically have the power to help but more likely to make things worse if they did

You have to remember that most billionaires care nothing for little people, except for needing them as customers and employees.

 

[Gary Patterson]

Doing THAT would have all but guaranteed one of the eagles took the Ring for themselves and turned into whatever a Balrog-level threat with wings looks like. New kind of dragon?

But balrogs already have wings.

(Remembering Usenet)

 

[llanitedave]

That the fix will depend on the Democrats' frenemy & sometime opponent, Gollum, to bite it off the Dem's finger and immolate it and themselves?

The independents? The Libertarians?

 

[Shavano]

But balrogs already have wings.

(Remembering Usenet)

Then why did it fall into the abyss?

 

[GloatingSwine]

Then why did it fall into the abyss?

They need a runup to get airborne like geese.

Honk like geese as well.

Tolkien didn't include that bit.

Too embarassing.

 

[Zod]

But balrogs already have wings.

(Remembering Usenet)

They can't fly though. Balrogs are the ostrich of Middle Earth evil higher beings;.

 

[Made in Hurry]

Nazgul had air superiority until the Ring was destroyed.

That too.

You have to remember that most billionaires care nothing for little people, except for needing them as customers and employees.

You are no fun at parties

The very wealthy guy i worked for some years ago was also one of the most giving persons i have ever known, not ultra rich, but billionaire over here. It was commercial properties that was the business, stripping them and rebuilding them, but he was very generous to his tenants, and they loved him in return. So an outlier for sure compared to what i understand is the typical culture in the US.

Back to Epstein though, there are serious investigations going on here though. A former PM "Jagland" lost his immunity in the European council and is now heavily investigated, there has been raids in his homes too. Others are pending, a woman diplomant lost her job, and also her immunity, husband is being investigated, and i am sure there are more pending. Norway has been especially present in these files.

 

[wallinbl]

Yeah, other countries are going to jail people for this, and the GOP is going to look at them and think “suckers”.

 

[Lycanthropos]

I do wonder if we'll start hearing about the countries taking things seriously attempting extradition for the US perpetrators. I doubt the US would actually cooperate at this point, depending on how well-connected the suspects are, but surely it's going to come up at some point, right? If the UK is serious about going after their home-grown criminals, they're hardly going to want visiting ones popping in.

 

[wallinbl]

I do wonder if we'll start hearing about the countries taking things seriously attempting extradition for the US perpetrators. I doubt the US would actually cooperate at this point, depending on how well-connected the suspects are, but surely it's going to come up at some point, right? If the UK is serious about going after their home-grown criminals, they're hardly going to want visiting ones popping in.

We went and got Maduro, so obviously we’re okay with that, right?

 

[Shavano]

I do wonder if we'll start hearing about the countries taking things seriously attempting extradition for the US perpetrators. I doubt the US would actually cooperate at this point, depending on how well-connected the suspects are, but surely it's going to come up at some point, right? If the UK is serious about going after their home-grown criminals, they're hardly going to want visiting ones popping in.

Anti-corruption laws have global reach. Even if they can't get extraditions from the US, there are going to be bunches of people that can't go to countries that might arrest them and turn them over to a country where they can be prosecuted.

We went and got Maduro, so obviously we’re okay with that, right?

When do they want to come get Trump? Many of us would be happy to turn him over.

 

[ArchimaX]

Yeahm

Regardless of the current shitshow, as a European I don‘t get why this happens now and not years ago.

I mean it seems there is a lot of damning evidence in those files, why was there no widespread prosecution? The Biden Administration/Democrat Congress also slept on this, it seems. Was this intentional or has this sth. to do with Florida handling the case?

Am I missing something?

I never thought it would get like this. How do people get a chance to act this way? Are we not supposed to be acting like adults? She sounded like some spoiled 3 year old not getting her way.
I am still constantly amazed at this behavior. I am amazed some of the stories they must believe, because the alternate is unreal. They don't believe but yet support to the fake story is unwavering.

The other thing is why is the rest of the world taking care of business and yet the US acts like this is some shoplifting charge. Even if false (highly unlikely) I cannot believe the seriousness of the accusations don't warrant something more.

I am so tired of saying we have now reached a new low I never though possible. All this does is make me believe even more in the far fetched stuff, cannibalism, murder, torture, and that is now coming to light it starts to over shadow damn pedo behavior. And didn't we used to think that was the lowest of the lows?

I guess I never expected murdering, torturers that are cannibals that are also pedos.....

Far fetched? This is what was happening. On a massive scale. It's systemic. When are you going to protest?

 

[Carewolf]

Well, to be fair, Sauron was right. It took a hobbit to get it Mount Doom. Even then, Frodo still didn't willingly destroy it. But then again I guess maybe he was wrong because the Fellowship was even formed in the first place?

...I think this is one of those metaphors that work less and less the more you try to explore it.

Fortunately Steven Miller was there and took the ring with him into the vulcano.

 

[AdrianS]

That the fix will depend on the Democrats' frenemy & sometime opponent, Gollum, to bite it off the Dem's finger and immolate it and themselves?

Bernie Sanders?

 

[Lt_Storm]

But balrogs already have wings.

(Remembering Usenet)

No they don't, they have billowing cloaks of fire, shadow, and darkness that give the appearance of wings.

 

[wrylachlan]

The new season of Alex Cross is on Amazon and the main story line is a couple of people going on a killing spree hunting down everything involved in a sex trafficing ring. It’s an incredibly on the nose Epstein story line.

 

[Alexander]

Israeli consulate ran security and surveillance at the East 66th Street apartment building where Epstein stashed underage girls:

https://www.dropsitenews.com/p/isra...ance-epstein-apartment-66th-street-ehud-barak


The building also housed key Epstein associates such as Darren Indyke and Richard Kahn, and was used as a sort of free AirBnB as part of his influence-peddling operation.


EDIT: this building. (archive)

 

[dio82]

has this been on any body's bingo card?

https://www.reuters.com/world/alleg...s-against-humanity-un-experts-say-2026-02-17/

UN legal experts say that the coverup handling of the epstein files may amount to crimes against humanity

 

[LTParis]

has this been on any body's bingo card?

https://www.reuters.com/world/alleg...s-against-humanity-un-experts-say-2026-02-17/

UN legal experts say that the coverup handling of the epstein files may amount to crimes against humanity

They should be treated as such. Naturally the horrible axis of evil we are it won't amount to much justice in the US unless actual people with backbones get elected.

 

[Welcome to Darwin]

They should be treated as such. Naturally the horrible axis of evil we are it won't amount to much justice in the US unless actual people with backbones get elected.

It'd be a step in the right direction to see a lot of these people have to fear international travel. They're used to their influence/riches buying them the freedom to do whatever they want. It's how they got where they are. Clawing some of that back would be nice.

Non-signatories to the Rome Statute aren't all terrible vacation spots, but most of the good ones are signatories. Fancy a quick, relaxing getaway to China or Russia? Maybe North Korea, Afganistan, Libya, or Sudan?

 

[flere-imsaho]

It's only a matter of time before the Trump Administration puts pressure on Caribbean countries to withdraw from that statute.

 

[Mikie]

I am still in awe of the actions that are immediately taken from other countries. A Prince, instantly arrested, others forced to step down, and still others are fired.While those are not the actions of self incrimination, it does say a lot towards guilt. My hope is these people take lighter sentences and turn on everything and everyone.This becoming an international cabal just says more than one person must know all the details.

Just a matter of scaring them enough or catching the right person. If this isn't another sign that billionaires should not exist I don't know what it. There will always be the haves and have nots, but at some point that separation needs to be corrected.
While those are not the actions of self incrimination, it does say a lot towards guilt. My hope is these people take lighter sentences and turn on everything and everyoneThis becoming an international cabal just says more than one person must know all the details. Just a matter of scaring them enough or catching the right person. If this isn't another sign that billionaires should not exist I don't know what it. There will always be the haves and have nots, but at some point that separation needs to be corrected.
This becoming an international cabal just says more than one person must know all the details. Just a matter of scaring them enough or catching the right person. If this isn't another sign that billionaires should not exist I don't know what it. There will always be the haves and have nots, but at some point that separation needs to be corrected.

 

[Locke]

Lets stop and think about how in the United States, a Republic born from rejecting royalty we have a Supreme Court that ruled the President is above the law.

But in a (constitutional) Monarchy a Prince can be arrested.

 

[Welcome to Darwin]

It's only a matter of time before the Trump Administration puts pressure on Caribbean countries to withdraw from that statute.

I can see the advisory from the State Department now: "US citizens who are alleged pedophiles face an unreasonable risk of arrest. Do not visit <insert country>."

 

[Buxaroo]

Speaking of the Epstein list, and CBS hypocrisy, Peter Attia appears to be staying at CBS News despite Epstein communications. Sure, censor Colbert for the orange pedophile-in-chief, and while you're at it keep another Epstein lister as a fuck you to boot.