NextEra’s blockbuster deal with Dominion likely means higher bills for consumers.
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If that means the government takes command, breaks them up, and then, has a hand in converting them to local municipal control, absolutely yes. Go for it.I do wonder if all this maneuvering is also part of an attempt to reach the "to big to fail" status, and eventually secure government buyout.
There is so much money involved in the AI nonsense and anything that orbits it, that is- personally speaking, haunting.
It is almost like having investor-owned utilities was always a bad idea, because this is always the inevitable outcome.Sounds like electric utilities are going the way of hospitals. Merge, consolidate, provide shitty services, jack up rates and make institutional investors even more wealthy while fucking over everybody else.
Unfortunately--I don't think there's any chance of that happening in the USA. We are too deep in the Free Markets Are The Answer religion.If that means the government takes command, breaks them up, and then, has a hand in converting them to local municipal control, absolutely yes. Go for it.
Feudalism->Capitalism->Feudalism?It is almost like having investor-owned utilities was always a bad idea, because this is always the inevitable outcome.
Unfortunately--I don't think there's any chance of that happening in the USA. We are too deep in the Free Markets Are The Answer religion.
Sounds like electric utilities are going the way of hospitals. Merge, consolidate, provide shitty services, jack up rates and make institutional investors even more wealthy while fucking over everybody else.
I’d love to agree but the data center energy demand has hit Lake Tahoe the hardest, and is about to rampage in Florida. These are very wealthy communities getting hit in the nuts not fading rust belt towns.Feudalism->Capitalism->Feudalism?
Data center demand only hit Lake Tahoe because it’s an extremist NIMBY regime that refuses to build their own infrastructure.I’d love to agree but the data center energy demand has hit Lake Tahoe the hardest, and is about to rampage in Florida. These are very wealthy communities getting hit in the nuts not fading rust belt towns.
Pop the AI Bubble already.
That is a monumental "if", don't you think?If that means the government takes command, breaks them up, and then, has a hand in converting them to local municipal control, absolutely yes. Go for it.
“Mergers are not about consumers; they’re about shareholders,” said Ari Peskoe, director of the Electricity Law Initiative at Harvard Law School. “For the Dominion shareholders, they are selling their shares at a premium. The executives are getting massive payouts for facilitating this, assuming it all goes through, and obviously NextEra believes the transaction is going to add value to the company. Ratepayers are all an afterthought.”
It will force them to be priced based on actual costs. What they're doing now is dumping, a type of predatory pricing, in order to capture the market and destroy competing industries. It artificially suppresses alternatives (e.g., human-created work), in order to create dependency on those LLMs.popping the bubble will wipe out a bunch of companies. but it's not going to get rid of giant LLMs.
I worked as a vendor or consultant to utilities of all kinds (municipal, investor-owned, coops, tribal, Crown corporations, etc.) across North America for 20+ years. I then worked for a municipal utility for 6 years.It is almost like having investor-owned utilities was always a bad idea, because this is always the inevitable outcome.
Unfortunately--I don't think there's any chance of that happening in the USA. We are too deep in the Free Markets Are The Answer religion.
Classic economic theory has long held that some stuff lends itself to natural monopolies. Rather than fighting this economic fact, the paradigm for over a century had been to regulate their behavior.We have played this game before. Anti monopoly laws exist for reasons. One could read about these things, I suppose.
Human history is rife with societies learning, unlearning, and then (maybe) relearning lessons.
Maga has assured that we are going to relearn this one good, and hard.
We only ever use this kind of language when it involves the sprawling single family homes owned by rich people. You can dislike data centers for whatever reason, but buildings "looming" over the giant, lifeless suburban sprawl lawns is NIMBY-coded bullshit.Amazon data centers loom over houses at the edge of a neighborhood in Loudoun County, Va
I've been thinking a bit over the last 10-15 years about how "Capitalist America" actually looks an awful lot like an aristocracy of old, with a few gilded families ("The Dukes") owning most of the real estate and businesses in the country. They have their lesser nobles ("The Marquesses") under them - executives, hedge fund managers, owners of smaller (but sometimes still largish) businesses that are substantially clients of the larger businesses and their owners - they may be legally independent businesses, but they know where their bread is buttered and owe their loyalty to the Dukes above them. Below them are yet another set of lesser "nobles" ("The Earls") loyal to the Maquesses above them in the hierarchy, and so forth.Feudalism->Capitalism->Feudalism?
It’s harder for electric utilities to enshittify than hospitals. Hospitals are poorly regulated. Power utilities are regulated.Sounds like electric utilities are going the way of hospitals. Merge, consolidate, provide shitty services, jack up rates and make institutional investors even more wealthy while fucking over everybody else.
100% This would solve a lot of energy and computing supply chain problems. There is too much VC money creating supply for products no one is demanding. Microsoft released 70 copilots before fixing the damn taskbar. If Windows users were perceived as Microsoft's customers they wouldn’t be trying to reboot a nuclear power plant; in reality, Microsoft sees investors and stockholders as their customers so they have to build the torment nexus before TeSpaceXAI does it first.Pop the AI Bubble already.
You need massive bonuses or you can’t hire The Smartest Guys in the Room.Bold mine. Why the ever loving fuck are executives getting massive payouts from running a public utility?
it's not like it's done everywhere, right? if the infrastructure has open access i'm not sure what the issue is.Power transmission and distribution are natural monopolies. You can bust these 2 big monopolies into a 1000 pieces and you’ll just get 1000 little monopolies.
If you own the roof over your home and it sees the sun, you should have installed solar panels and batteries by now. The rest of us are screwed![]()
According to the NY Times, the small California utility buying power from the big Nevada power company was repeatedly given notices over something like 20 years that they needed to find another power supplier. It got multiple extensions.Data center demand only hit Lake Tahoe because it’s an extremist NIMBY regime that refuses to build their own infrastructure.
The Nevada company that decided to prioritize a Nevada data center instead of California residents did the right thing.