It also shows who these two really are. Neither had run for reelection, so weren't going to be facing the heat for any decision. They had nothing to defend or explain at this point.
Domestic consequences of the 2024 US presidential election: the quickening
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Sure, but "great" isn't one of the available menu options.
I suspect it sounds better than not being vaccinated against polio at all though.
You can already do this with a variety of medicines today. Not all of it is entirely legal, but that doesn't make it impossible or even difficult. Additionally, medical tourism is also already a thing. Is it ideal? Obviously not. Can everyone afford it? No. But that's part one of the job. Each of us has to figure out how we're going to be as minimally impacted by the stupid as possible.
Nobody is coming to save us. We have to save ourselves. We can't be bystanders hoping institutions are going to help us evade the pain or be bystanders to making sure the right people actually feel the pain they're trying to subject the rest of us to. The institutions have either failed or been captured.
Just fuck everyone who can't afford it, amirite?
No. There is no universe that's in front of you or anyone else that's remotely within the realm of any possibility for there to be an institutional solution to this problem right now or on any useful time horizon. It does not exist. It isn't coming. Lots and lots of people are going to get f*cked. That is what is going to happen. It is unavoidable. Preventing it isn't on the table right now. That ship has sailed.
What you can do is what is within your locus of control to try to be f*cked less than you otherwise would be and to do what is within your locus of control to make sure the people who signed us all up to get f*cked are the ones who get the shaft the hardest.
You can't save people from themselves, but you can minimize how far they drag you down with them.
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I think the main hope is that the “deregulate and cut” branch is stronger than RFK jr and they just toss out the FDA entirely.
As regards vaccinations, let me repeat what I said a while ago in the global consequences thread. If the US decides to no longer vaccinate in whatever form, there will be consequences for international travel. There is no way Europe will tolerate an import of polio or measles.
Career scientists? How many will still exist after all Federal funding for NIH or universities related to medicine or biology will be cut?
At certain point, we may start seeing scientists leaving USA to China.
VividVerism
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I, for one, intend to seek out pharmaceuticals from international sources like Canada. Luckily, I have like 18 leads where to buy them sitting in my email right now! Cheap, too!
Not sure why they spell everything with weird punctuation inserted everywhere, though...
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Without herd immunity, vaccines are less useful, not useless. Unless you personally have a compromised immune system or contraindications for the vaccines so that you can't or shouldn't take them, you'll have some benefit in fighting off the worst effects or even fighting off an infection if you are exposed.
But yeah... much better to just never be exposed in the first place because of herd immunity. Both on an individual and societal level.
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They use a different alphabet than we do.
Eh, at the point people are tempted to do that it'll probably something of a lateral switch. Xi's China isn't exactly opening up new avenues of democratic expression.
As @Wheels Of Confusion notes, there are some issues with democratic freedoms there. Why not the EU or other places which place a greater value on human rights?
I subscribe to the idea that we're just entering an intellectual dark age stifled by ubiquitous government surveillance and internet disinformation run amok. Hopefully it's not so iron clad that we end up stuck for thousands of years like in Dune or Foundation but the power computing has given to authoritarian police states is staggering. If they want it could be trivial to simply squash innovation and political movements in order to keep the status quo literally indefinitely.
Trump announced that the GOP will end Daylight Savings Time.
Read in The Washington Post: https://apple.news/AFWcUCstpTj-HydTK5q7EiA
There have been various bills to either get rid of DSL or make it year round. The "evidence" is that switching hours twice a year is bad for health and safety.
Rubio has sponsored legislation to make it permanent. Recent bills have expanded the DSL period rather than decrease it. Polls have shown that about 1/2 of those polled favor DSL while 1/3 favor getting rid of DSL permanently.
So there's no overwhelming consensus either way.
The article describes previous attempts to get rid of DSL, a con being that sunrise would be later in certain times of the year if DSL was completely abolished. So they found for instance that children were waiting for school buses in the morning in darkness and for safety reasons, they rolled back the elimination of DSL.
Read in The Washington Post: https://apple.news/AFWcUCstpTj-HydTK5q7EiA
There have been various bills to either get rid of DSL or make it year round. The "evidence" is that switching hours twice a year is bad for health and safety.
Rubio has sponsored legislation to make it permanent. Recent bills have expanded the DSL period rather than decrease it. Polls have shown that about 1/2 of those polled favor DSL while 1/3 favor getting rid of DSL permanently.
So there's no overwhelming consensus either way.
The article describes previous attempts to get rid of DSL, a con being that sunrise would be later in certain times of the year if DSL was completely abolished. So they found for instance that children were waiting for school buses in the morning in darkness and for safety reasons, they rolled back the elimination of DSL.
Maybe we need half hour instead of hour wide time zones, I think that should keep the clock time from getting too far from natural time, right?
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Holy shit. He's thinking of doing something right?
It only took 52 pages to see something positive.
He'll find a way to somehow screw it up and make things worse or line his pockets, I'm sure.
Sorry, but why go to sketchy online sources when you can get skookum medicine directly from the source eh? Don't be a hoser and fall for online scams! Fellow Arsians have cheap Canuck pills filling up their bunnyhug pockets since we get 'em free from the government monthly. I'll wheel the pill caboose over to the Agora and we can have a rippin' tailgate party. You know dope is technically medicine here eh? Technically the best kind of medicine!
Edit: skunk weed too skookum, deleted the quote on accident. Sorry eh.
China has a single time zone and that seems to work out just fine.
If the concern is that children are not safe when it's dark outside, maybe that city should do something about crime. Or put up some lampposts.
If the concern is that children are not safe when it's dark outside, maybe that city should do something about crime. Or put up some lampposts.
Probably not China, until the US gets much worse in practice; but I have heard anecdotally (so no stats, and not a quantifiable trend) of medical researchers & physicians who are startign job searches on other Western countries. Not a quick process, as their US licenses & certifications don't transfer easily (unlike tech certifications), and there are much less trained physicians & hospitals than other trained professional & workplaces.
I think it's a pretty minor issue either way; I used to have to change time manually on a dozen clocks/devices. For the past 15, it's been two: A living room clock and a medical device, so no big deal.
if anything, I'd support permanet DST; even better, adjusting work/school times seasonally. Businesses with seasonal customer workload, e.g. motorcycle shops, water parks, already adjust opening hours by season (a lot less open hours in winter). No reason why schools & workplaces don't do the same.
A domestic consequence will likely be more tourism within the USA as most of the world won't allow them entry if this goes ahead.
It is more tongue in cheek. If it happens, it would likely start with less foreign students want to come to USA. More of the graduated will return to their home countries as well.
China has its issues. May be if you are in certain industry and have other reasons (family, emotional attachment to the culture/countries, etc.), I do not see China being more attractive than USA in near term. However, you can never know with how things are going. It seems we are in a changing world.
The vaccination rate in USA has been dropping in ~ 20 years now. Ever if we can stop the current administration, I think we can expect some kind of outbreak in 10-20 years. We are already seeing mini-outbreak in certain populations. At the moment, government/society in USA are still protecting people from the worst, but it could change.
Isn't Newfoundland still 30min off from Nova Scotia & Labrador?
There are multiple 30 & 45-off zones worldwide -- all silly AFAICS.
Yes it is, Labrador is apart of Newfoundland so it too is a half hour ahead of the Atlantic provinces. The running joke that's been around for years is; "THE WORLD WILL END AT MIDNIGHT!! 12:30 in Newfoundland."
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His lawyer is also helping to vet hires for HHS:
Mitch McConnell may yet ride to the rescue, if he can find three other GOP Senators to ride with him:
Oh dear Mitch, did you really think that those leopards you worked so hard to enable for all those years won't eat your face once they're finally in office?
Why? Why did you believe that? Just like it is in the nature of scorpions to sting, it is in the nature of the face eating leopard to eat people's faces. Surely you must have been aware of that particular tale.
Why? Why did you believe that? Just like it is in the nature of scorpions to sting, it is in the nature of the face eating leopard to eat people's faces. Surely you must have been aware of that particular tale.
There's times I'm grateful to them for at least helping with nominees and then they do shit like this. NLRB board make up was hugely impactful on my Unions decisions to strike/bargain because under Trump they took a hard right in stances and very pro business and "fuck you unions" kind of stance out of alot of cases that at any other point in the past 20 years would have been at worst a split/mediocre decision. (I can't cite specifics without looking back into google for awhile, and google is shit for that kind of search now)
I'm all favor for it being removed and "left up to the states" since we already have many states (including CA) who voted to do away with it...
Arizona stopped doing DST in 1968 (one year after it was introduced), and they're still doing fine. Hawaii never started doing DST.
Most of the reasons for starting DST in the first place are either completely irrelevant today, or significantly less impactful than they were then, and there have been unintended consequences, mostly related to mental health.
There is also an energy consumption implication with DST. Original reason for DST was something to do with farming.
I could have sworn we hashed this all out a few years ago in the forums here when CA passed it's law, and also searching the forums produced this funny gem
but the senate passed a bill in 2022 allowing it although it hasn't passed in the house, which seems silly.
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It's not the changing of clocks that's the issue, it's the disruption to sleep patterns. There is a noticeable uptick in car crashes and some other things in the few weeks following the time shift every year. I think I've read there are noticeable health effects at a societal level also.
Every year politicians say they're going to do something about that and every year they don't. I'm not holding my breath.
I know I take a couple weeks to get an even keel, my brain does NOT like the changes in rhythm. But since this is actually a sensible and beneficial proposal, it’ll never pass under Trump.
Nah, that's just a myth, farmers were against the idea. Meant places closed sooner for them, since all that matters in a farm is daylight.
The real reason was saving energy in the cities back in WWI.
It is an absolutely perfectly distilled case study in how utterly useless Democrats are at setting narrative framing and their feckless political passivity though.