COVID shots protect kids from long COVID—and don’t cause sudden death

bebu

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Remember the Magnetic doctor, who managed to show that Covid vaccines make non-magnetic materials stick to vaccine-magnetized people? As the audience was Ohio State legislators, it was a complete success. At least RFK Jr required brain worms to reach his current degree of idiocy, whereas some people can be that stupid spontaneously.
Have to wonder whether the US version of stupidity is a prion disease which can arise spontaneously from the mis-folding of a single peptide. Given the state of US food (non) safety it would be difficult to nominate a natural reservoir unless as with Kuru, canablism is a thing. I suppose bears eat stupid humans and stupid humans bears
 
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bebu

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Think god struck someone with lightening for that. don't remember who though. That's what you get for being outside during a storm though.
Possibly Onan Genesis 38

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... he spilled it on the ground, lest that he should give seed to his brother.
10 And the thing which he did displeased the Lord: wherefore he slew him also.

Tamar must had all the sex appeal of MTG.

The Mississippi bill is a bit deficient in requiring the intent to fertilize an embryo. My embryology is a bit rusty but I think embryo at a minimum is a fertilized ovum and an ovum once fertilized actively prevents the entry of a second spermatozoan.

Even assuming ovum for embryo, these Einsteins of legislative drafting neglected to specify "human" although in those parts that restrictions might have prevented the previously legitimate procreative activities between its citizens.
 
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Solidstate89

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Honestly, I'm just sick and tired of hearing about anything to do with COVID. I'm very much looking forward to the next doom and gloom panic hysteria that strikes the world.
Millions of people in the U.S. alone died due to COVID and are still dying. And millions more are now on permanent disability due to various long COVID symptoms or symptoms arising from surviving treatment for COVID (it's not unusual for the people who went through ECMO to lose a limb or two). Why don't you shut the fuck up.
 
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tonylurker

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"annual shots are not linked to sudden cardiac arrest or sudden cardiac death in young athletes"

I wonder if it has been studied if prior COVID infection is linked to sudden cardiac death in young athletes?
From the article:

"This cohort study found no increase in SCA/SCD in young competitive athletes in the US during the COVID-19 pandemic, suggesting that reports asserting otherwise were overestimating the cardiovascular risk of COVID-19 infection, vaccination, and myocarditis," the authors conclude.
 
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Possibly Onan Genesis 38

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... he spilled it on the ground, lest that he should give seed to his brother.
10 And the thing which he did displeased the Lord: wherefore he slew him also.

Tamar must had all the sex appeal of MTG.

The Mississippi bill is a bit deficient in requiring the intent to fertilize an embryo. My embryology is a bit rusty but I think embryo at a minimum is a fertilized ovum and an ovum once fertilized actively prevents the entry of a second spermatozoan.

Even assuming ovum for embryo, these Einsteins of legislative drafting neglected to specify "human" although in those parts that restrictions might have prevented the previously legitimate procreative activities between its citizens.
Ummm. That Mississippi bill was not meant to be taken seriously. It as meant to show up the stupidity of various bills coming from the right.
 
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Apparently Robert F. Kennedy Jr. took a page from the Russian playbook and started up Ars sleeper cells.
Glo was actually a frequent poster so dedicated to musk that he had to go full-on science denialist. A cautionary tale for simps everywhere
 
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Madestjohn

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Yep. Sadly, this was just a matter of time.
and I’m glad to see Texas realizing through the lens of this tragedy the misconception they were operating under the errors they’ve made and immediately working to change course and make amends before more needlessly suffer and die ..

… what? they dug their heels in and obstinately doubled down?

how unlike Texas

/s
 
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Bernardo Verda

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Anyone telling you that risk is "non-existent" is lying to your face. Literally everything has risk. Period. End of discussion. Lying is bad, m'kay? Even when you're doing it to push something good. In that case it's especially bad, because a lot of people are being turned off from the vaccines BECAUSE of the obvious lies.
Darn! I was going to play it safe and stay in bed today... but maybe that's too risky.
 
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Madestjohn

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ok. so we all known eventually they will get to the kids

but lets not forget..
they are actually starting with the adults now

they’re going after the easiest targets
the ones most out of public view first

but these are habitual serial abusers

there’s no way they’re gonna stop
until someone stops them


View: https://youtu.be/R_0GzK2oAVM?si=Wj_7_fc_4bP-mtUE
 
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Millions of people in the U.S. alone died due to COVID and are still dying.
I have it on good authority from my extended family that that is a total lie, and most of the death certificates listing COVID as a cause of death are essentially forgeries.

They also, completely unrelated of course, refuse to look at or accept looking at any numbers that just count deaths in the US, all of which show a really weird 1.2-1.5M spike of excess deaths around the height of COVID.

Also, the Paradise fires were started by Antifa, and hey, guys, any thoughts on where to celebrate my holidays from now on?
 
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I have it on good authority from my extended family that that is a total lie, and most of the death certificates listing COVID as a cause of death are essentially forgeries.

They also, completely unrelated of course, refuse to look at or accept looking at any numbers that just count deaths in the US, all of which show a really weird 1.2-1.5M spike of excess deaths around the height of COVID.

Also, the Paradise fires were started by Antifa, and hey, guys, any thoughts on where to celebrate my holidays from now on?
Anywhere your extended family isn’t located is a good place. Better to avoid the US South and Midwest while you’re at it.

I have distant cousins in one of the states that have gone full MAGAt and sadly I am unlikely to see them ever again. I won’t give money to MAGAt states by visiting them.
 
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I have it on good authority from my extended family that that is a total lie, and most of the death certificates listing COVID as a cause of death are essentially forgeries.

They also, completely unrelated of course, refuse to look at or accept looking at any numbers that just count deaths in the US, all of which show a really weird 1.2-1.5M spike of excess deaths around the height of COVID.

Also, the Paradise fires were started by Antifa, and hey, guys, any thoughts on where to celebrate my holidays from now on?
Holidays at the bar! Better chance of takin' a lovely home for the night.
 
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So far, the recommendations for kids have largely gone unheeded; only 14 percent of children aged 5 to 17 are up to date on their 2024–2025 COVID shot. Surveys suggest that parents largely think the vaccines are unnecessary, given that most children only have mild COVID infections.

Anecdotally, most of the people I know in my educated social circle in Canada haven't bothered to get Covid shots in 2024. Even the ones that work in healthcare. :( People seem to be apathetic and have moved on.
 
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Possibly Onan Genesis 38

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... he spilled it on the ground, lest that he should give seed to his brother.
10 And the thing which he did displeased the Lord: wherefore he slew him also.

Tamar must had all the sex appeal of MTG.

The Mississippi bill is a bit deficient in requiring the intent to fertilize an embryo. My embryology is a bit rusty but I think embryo at a minimum is a fertilized ovum and an ovum once fertilized actively prevents the entry of a second spermatozoan.

Even assuming ovum for embryo, these Einsteins of legislative drafting neglected to specify "human" although in those parts that restrictions might have prevented the previously legitimate procreative activities between its citizens.
Come on… Onan just thought it wouldn’t be right to impregnate his dead brother’s widow, as ordered by his father. You don’t have to insult Tamar over it.
 
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Madestjohn

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Anecdotally, most of the people I know in my educated social circle in Canada haven't bothered to get Covid shots in 2024. Even the ones that work in healthcare. :( People seem to be apathetic and have moved on.
hmm ‘educated social circle’

I wonder what that’s an attempt to mask
 
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the key initial motivation for many of these recommendations was rationing

remember- covid shots like basic ppp were in high demand and short supply

Government and health agencies were attempting (logically and reasonably) to perform triage on who got them ..

hopefully who got them first but also in some cases in who they would be most effective
This is incorrect - germany did recommend shots for unter 18 year olds for some time. The current recommendation was created at a time when we had more doses than needed.
 
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Anecdotally, most of the people I know in my educated social circle in Canada haven't bothered to get Covid shots in 2024. Even the ones that work in healthcare. :( People seem to be apathetic and have moved on.

I chose not to because I think that one every two years is plenty to give long-term immunity a nudge. And yes, vaccines are generally very safe, but I am prejudiced in the direction of avoiding technological interventions rather than accepting them willy-nilly. One and done vaccinations for dangerous diseases that induce long-term immunity are an easy sell to me. I got the Covid vaccine and two boosters anyway, and honestly I'm content enough with that, barring new understandings that obsolete it.

Perhaps your friends have similar viewpoints, rather than mere apathy.
 
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Bernardo Verda

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I chose not to because I think that one every two years is plenty to give long-term immunity a nudge. And yes, vaccines are generally very safe, but I am prejudiced in the direction of avoiding technological interventions rather than accepting them willy-nilly. One and done vaccinations for dangerous diseases that induce long-term immunity are an easy sell to me. I got the Covid vaccine and two boosters anyway, and honestly I'm content enough with that, barring new understandings that obsolete it.

Perhaps your friends have similar viewpoints, rather than mere apathy.
That sounds somewhat plausible -- if one doesn't stop to think about it.
 
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I chose not to because I think that one every two years is plenty to give long-term immunity a nudge. And yes, vaccines are generally very safe, but I am prejudiced in the direction of avoiding technological interventions rather than accepting them willy-nilly. One and done vaccinations for dangerous diseases that induce long-term immunity are an easy sell to me. I got the Covid vaccine and two boosters anyway, and honestly I'm content enough with that, barring new understandings that obsolete it.

Perhaps your friends have similar viewpoints, rather than mere apathy.
That's how smallpox works, not covid or the flu. The disease mutates too fast for your current vaccine to matter. You need to keep up. It's not a big challenge. You do it once a year, maybe twice at most depending on strain mutation. They're also cheap even if you're uninsured. Why be so stubborn about something so easy? This is the LEAST challenging part of dealing with covid, compared to handling social distancing and masking and hand washing and so on.
 
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Madestjohn

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<Shrug> I have thought about it, and that's what I think.
for some thinking is a chore
something unusual and difficult
to be done rarely and if possible quickly
the only satisfaction gain is in ‘getting it done’

a question answered - however imperfectly- is one ignored
 
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That's how smallpox works, not covid or the flu. The disease mutates too fast for your current vaccine to matter. You need to keep up. It's not a big challenge. You do it once a year, maybe twice at most depending on strain mutation. They're also cheap even if you're uninsured. Why be so stubborn about something so easy? This is the LEAST challenging part of dealing with covid, compared to handling social distancing and masking and hand washing and so on.

My understanding is that the older vaccines still work fine with regard to preventing hospitalisation or worse. And that boosters of the newer ones give a very temporary boost to immunity.

There's no indication of any large cohort of people who got the original vaccine and no other getting suddenly very sick now, is there? If that happens, it will come under what I called 'new understandings' and I will happily line up for an up-to-date shot.
 
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Remember the Magnetic doctor, who managed to show that Covid vaccines make non-magnetic materials stick to vaccine-magnetized people? As the audience was Ohio State legislators, it was a complete success. At least RFK Jr required brain worms to reach his current degree of idiocy, whereas some people can be that stupid spontaneously.
Apply baby powder and see how well the metal spoons and such stick. All that really is is a sign someone needs to wash better, as James Randi pointed out decades ago.


View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OTVWMY8EZCA
 
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My understanding is that the older vaccines still work fine with regard to preventing hospitalisation or worse. And that boosters of the newer ones give a very temporary boost to immunity.

There's no indication of any large cohort of people who got the original vaccine and no other getting suddenly very sick now, is there? If that happens, it will come under what I called 'new understandings' and I will happily line up for an up-to-date shot.
Fast mutating diseases require up to date vaccination, like the flu shot you get every year. You DO get that every year, yes? No, this is not 'new understanding", this is well known information when it comes to quickly mutating diseases, and Covid is one of those. The vaccine's particulars aren't as important as the disease's.
 
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I chose not to because I think that one every two years is plenty to give long-term immunity a nudge. And yes, vaccines are generally very safe, but I am prejudiced in the direction of avoiding technological interventions rather than accepting them willy-nilly. One and done vaccinations for dangerous diseases that induce long-term immunity are an easy sell to me. I got the Covid vaccine and two boosters anyway, and honestly I'm content enough with that, barring new understandings that obsolete it.

Perhaps your friends have similar viewpoints, rather than mere apathy.

I'm not content at all. I've taken every Covid vaccine and booster and I got Covid 30 days after my last booster :| Now I didn't die, so huzzah - but I'm still not happy about being down for a month.

I want more and better vaccines that have much higher rates of protection. And I want them yesterday.
 
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