I don't know, this all sounds super tedious to me. The public tags, in particular, sound almost purpose-made to encourage low-effort, drive-by engagement that will do little more than stir the pot, so to speak.I'd like to see:
Tagging users (privately) as "troll", "bot", "propagandist", "jerk", "inveterate arguer" etc would be useful to me.
Similarly, tagging comments (publicly) as "incorrect", "no citations/sources", "derail attempt", or "logical fallacy: $type"
Footnotes and Biblio citations in comments.
I'm trying to think of features that will weed out the intentional jerks. Does anyone else have any suggestions?
A Dealmaster that had actual deals instead of 25 Lenovo laptops that are "on sale" for the same price they're always sold for and the top 5 results off Amazon for "no-name USB cable on sale" would be cool. Products that are actually on sale and Ars has actually vetted as good products. Of course that also means Ars needs to review more tech products so they can make that call.More explainers like the AI pioneers article today
More historic analysis, like the Dreamcast and Amiga series
More explaining US v China tech dynamics
More Beth Mole
More Dealmaster (controversial, I know, but would love to help ARS when I buy kit)
More articles on big tech inputs, like the Arkansas lithium mine, the gigawatt factory labor issues, and how TSMC is having trouble standing up the Arizona fab
Yea, it's gotten pretty silly.Also the reviewers should try to keep in mind that they’re critiquing a work and not being a fan of the franchise and maybe we don’t need synopses of trailers quite so much
Also this, I like this. All types of home fab equipment.I would be interested in articles about 3d printers and other at-home-fabrication equipment. We occasionally get an odd article when someone does something that garners broader interest, but we don't really have specialist coverage on state-of-the-art advancements in this area. And I think we're also at a point where 3d printing is accessible enough to be a somewhat common hobby.
Some coverage of 'maker's' equipment that goes into details such as "This is a good entry level kit", "The advantages of non-planar 3d printing", or "The difficulties and considerations of recycling excess material" would be a great addition to the roster of topics.
Agree - I always find something new from these articles. Had almost forgotten they existed, but +1 from me.Oh you know. We really really love the articles where you ask all the ars staff what their favourite X is. Love learning about new tech and gadgets and software
I'd like that, I've requested this on another forum I visit, to no avail so far. It doesn't seem to be standard forum functionality, but if anyone can figure this out, it's the Ars Web Duo.I'd like to have sort of a timed ignore, for when two people start debating back-and-forth in the comments about some triviality and none of them will give the matter a rest...
Yeah, you're correct, the public tags aren't a great idea. I just feel like I should be able to do something other than downvote an intentional derail attempt. There's been so many times I wish I could have tagged a derail.I don't know, this all sounds super tedious to me. The public tags, in particular, sound almost purpose-made to encourage low-effort, drive-by engagement that will do little more than stir the pot, so to speak.
I get that certain posters are annoying, but I don't come here to police the forums, I come here to read some interesting articles and maybe post the odd comment. For the most part, I am content to downvote/ignore and then go about my day. Leave the moderation to the moderators, in short.
This is a fantastic idea! SecondedI'd like to have sort of a timed ignore, for when two people start debating back-and-forth in the comments about some triviality and none of them will give the matter a rest... It's not like I want to permanently ignore those people, because they normally bring value to the discussion, but I'd like not to see their posts until they've finished derailing the thread, please.
The Kagi "Small Web" feature is pretty good for discovering mostly unknown stuff. https://blog.kagi.com/small-webI'll fire off an email later using smarter words tonight, but I think it'd be fun to have a biweekly or monthly "this is just some neat stuff we found around the web" article. Kind of a collector for stuff that's interesting but not necessarily big enough to fill a whole article by itself, you know?
When we last ran a big survey one of the most requested subscriber features was the ability to hide categories. So we added that on the redesign. Since AI now has its own dedicated category it would be trivial to not see most of the AI pieces we do with a subscription.We wish there were fewer ai articles.
We get that it is a really big deal in tech nowadays. It is news. But we're just drained of seeing them. There's days where it feels at least half the news. On the topic of being drained, we're so tired of hearing about Musk constantly.
We're much less likely to read them because we struggle engaging wif longer reads, but love the technical articles and deepdives. We like when topics are very thoroughly explored, and. Appreciate having such exploration posted to the internet, easily accessible to all.
Oh you know. We really really love the articles where you ask all the ars staff what their favourite X is. Love learning about new tech and gadgets and software
I would personally adore more coverage like this, I have no idea how popular it would be.I would be interested in articles about 3d printers and other at-home-fabrication equipment. We occasionally get an odd article when someone does something that garners broader interest, but we don't really have specialist coverage on state-of-the-art advancements in this area. And I think we're also at a point where 3d printing is accessible enough to be a somewhat common hobby.
Some coverage of 'maker's' equipment that goes into details such as "This is a good entry level kit", "The advantages of non-planar 3d printing", or "The difficulties and considerations of recycling excess material" would be a great addition to the roster of topics.
The Kagi "Small Web" feature is pretty good for discovering mostly unknown stuff. https://blog.kagi.com/small-web
Also, Ars subscribers should get a couple free Kagi searches![]()
I feel you, I really do. I just know that I tend to be happier when I decline to engage with such posts beyond a quick downvote and the occasional tap on the 'ignore' button.Yeah, you're correct, the public tags aren't a great idea. I just feel like I should be able to do something other than downvote an intentional derail attempt. There's been so many times I wish I could have tagged a derail.
I guess it might be easier to manage a derail or other items if we had nested or trees of comments.
It annoys me that the jerks and assholes get to disrupt and demoralize people, and our tools to defend ourselves are severely lacking.
Interest in 3D printing and home-fab technology might grow surprisingly quickly once people learn what's on the market and how far the tech has come in terms of both usability and quality.I would personally adore more coverage like this, I have no idea how popular it would be.
I think I'm the only person on staff these days who's really serious about 3D printing.
It's hard for me to find time to really concentrate on writing stuff for the front page, but I have a "Everyone should own a 3D printer" piece in my head that I'd like to get out some time.Interest in 3D printing and home-fab technology might grow surprisingly quickly once people learn what's on the market and how far the tech has come in terms of both usability and quality.
I completely understand this point of view, but there are too many people that come on here to deliberately provoke others, especially when the article is one of a certain set of topics. Hiding downvoted posts works really well to prevent people from going around and around in pointless arguments with the provocateurs. The hiding of legitimate but unpopular posts is an unfortunate side effect. Ars used to have a system where you could choose your reason for downvoting, and I'll like to see a return to that. Posts should only be hidden or removed if the poster is acting in bad faith, not when they're just honestly being annoying.I think maybe I would be okay with seeing downvoting just completely removed from Ars, and just leave upvoting enabled.
We polled our readers to ask them what features would make subscribing feel attractive? We had nearly 20,000 responses. After no ads and no trackers the number three request was the ability to hide categories. So we added it.So, we have the privilege of an option to not see an article, and all we have to do is pay for that privilege?
Thanks.
Revisit this thought after Thanksgiving. "No politics at the dinner table" has let a lot of families continue to enjoy each other's company over the years, even as their individual politics grow and continue to evolve.I understand the sentiment but I have to push back on this (I know this won't be popular). I don't think stories on SpaceX should be Musk-free spaces reserved for "apolitical" (such a thing doesn't exist) discussions about rockets. If you're annoyed by people complaining about Musk, blame him, not Ars or Ars commenters. The fact that the future of space is being shaped by functionally sociopathic capitalist oligarchs is among the worst parts of our present moment, and trying to have discussions about delta-V or types of fuel while the leaders of these companies are trying to destroy democracy isn't something that I, and many others, think needs to be privileged.
Please write this.It's hard for me to find time to really concentrate on writing stuff for the front page, but I have a "Everyone should own a 3D printer" piece in my head that I'd like to get out some time.
Maybe what those commenters really meant was “don’t just let me hide it. stop covering it and use those resources on x.”We polled our readers to ask them what features would make subscribing feel attractive? We had nearly 20,000 responses. After no ads and no trackers the number three request was the ability to hide categories. So we added it.
This sounds like a legitimate use of AI, i.e. recognizing international-ignoring statements and proposing more accessible mods. E.g. scrubbing for the cases mentioned above and suggesting minor tweaks like adding international units in parentheses.I have send an email, and am including it here in case anyone else is interested:
Hi Ars Technica People,
I am a subscriber and appreciate your work. There is one issue that grates on my and it is the US focused writing and lack of consideration of other readers. I am Australian and used to read Ars UK when this was an option as that helped.
I'm not asking for everything to be in British English, but even the article that I'm responding to discussed Ars staff being all over the US and gathering in the US in a way that it wasn't clear at first if this was open to foreigners or if this was another example of come to our event, everyone welcome (if you are in the US).
Some specific examples include:
I understand it is very hard to put yourself in the shoes of someone else to notice all these small things, so there may be value in foreign editing labour to identify some of these issues, however I understand this would incur costs.
- Providing alternatives when US units are used (mpg or Miles per Gallon is a frequent issue).
- Using 'here', 'in this country' or similar when referring to the US (for example "There are no current plans to release this product here").
- Using two letter codes without explaining that this refers to a specific state in the US.
I'm sure you have data on how many of your readers are from other countries, and catering to them, or better yet expanding external readership buy some of these simple measures would help Ars grow and be healthy.
Keep up the good work.
No, it was extremely specific.Maybe what those commenters really meant was “don’t just let me hide it. stop covering it and use those resources on x.”
Maybe ignore for this thread only?I'd like to have sort of a timed ignore, for when two people start debating back-and-forth in the comments about some triviality and none of them will give the matter a rest... It's not like I want to permanently ignore those people, because they normally bring value to the discussion, but I'd like not to see their posts until they've finished derailing the thread, please.
I have send an email, and am including it here in case anyone else is interested:
Hi Ars Technica People,
I am a subscriber and appreciate your work. There is one issue that grates on my and it is the US focused writing and lack of consideration of other readers. I am Australian and used to read Ars UK when this was an option as that helped.
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