CA State agency sues Activision Blizzard, alleges discrimination against women

"Frat boy culture" cited as serious factor for pay disparity, sexual harassment.

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“Accountability is driving businesses out of California” is a hell of a response to a lawsuit documenting sexual abuse.

Indeed.

"If you don't let us sexually harass women we'll move to another state." Not a good look, is it?

 

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Then entire gamer culture - from software houses to players - is totally fucked up.

Change my view.

 

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Then entire gamer culture - from software houses to players - is totally fucked up.

Change my view.

When you say the "entire gamer culture" you're including all gamers here.

We're not all like THAT... granted, a high percentage is, but not everyone!

I'm not. I'd argue that the ones who aren't insulting each other's mothers over chat or sexually harassing women or excluding them for not being "gamers" are not part of "gamer culture." Gamer Culture is a toxic cesspit.

 

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Then entire gamer culture - from software houses to players - is totally fucked up.

Change my view.

When you say the "entire gamer culture" you're including all gamers here.

We're not all like THAT... granted, a high percentage is, but not everyone!

I'm not. I'd argue that the ones who aren't insulting each other's mothers over chat or sexually harassing women or excluding them for not being "gamers" are not part of "gamer culture." Gamer Culture is a toxic cesspit.

Then we'll have to agree what "gamer culture" means

I though it was "to have a culture defined by the consumption of a particular medium" in this case, video games; that clearly defines me, if I'm not doing something with my S.O. or playing with my pets, I am playing.

Clearly you are thinking on something else, something I have to agree to have experienced (and that's why I never turn on micro and always keep voice chat in mute), let's call it "The Barrens chat".

I play games a lot too. Despite that, I do not consider myself a part of gamer culture. That' s how toxic and unpleasant I find it to be. Maybe I only see the negative side of it, but... *shrug*

 

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Glad to see these charges, sounds awful, but blaming EA for a suicide seems a bit much. Their work culture might genuinely be toxic, but no one is forcing people to work there until they end their lives. Just resign.

Wow.

 

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Then entire gamer culture - from software houses to players - is totally fucked up.

Change my view.

Not specific to gamers my dude. Nor does gaming cause it. Asshole-ism is everywhere.

WTF? Gamer culture, like, by definition, applies to gamers. Who else do you think it applies to?

 

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Glad to see these charges, sounds awful, but blaming EA for a suicide seems a bit much. Their work culture might genuinely be toxic, but no one is forcing people to work there until they end their lives. Just resign.

Hey everybody, does our industry have a bit of a deep rooted misogyny problem? Naw, it's the women who are dumb and weak and not biologically built for pro gamer moves.

Completely misinterpreting me. I'm all for the charges. I don't think any of the women are dumb and I don't believe any mysgonist bullshit.

I just think that accusing Blizzard of essentially murdering a lady through their good old boys workplace culture seems extreme? Are all the workers their guilty? Was it just HR? Was it an individual? Should they be charging the individual(s) that lead to the commit suicide? If they can prove a direct correlation, why is it a an ethics complaint, not a criminal investigation?

Ok so it is a dumb take, I'm dumb a rock when it comes to the legal system. I just don't get what level of evidence you need to claim a company is directly responsible for the suicide of their employee but none of the individual employees are? Maybe I just missed the part where they explain the casualty.

It feels extreme to me, maybe it's not. No one else seems to find it extreme.

My God, he kept going... ffs...

 

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So I guess California is at it again...Wouldn't this be a private citizen issue? Government trying to control private industry...and it's California. What a left concept.

Fuck off.

 

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Glad to see these charges, sounds awful, but blaming EA for a suicide seems a bit much. Their work culture might genuinely be toxic, but no one is forcing people to work there until they end their lives. Just resign.

I too have written some dumb comments in my life, but my saving grace is that before I click ’submit’, I consider whether what dumb shit I just wrote should be shared with the world or not. I think that, on average, I am on the right side of the line. I may be wrong, of course. This comment shows that you need to think about where you are in relation to that line. But then again I don’t think I’ve ever written something this dumb.

Yeah it was dumb and I go over the line all the time. I don't have good instincts for it, never have, or sometimes I have great instincts for months it years but then I second guess where the line is and throw it out into the world. The reality is I'm often dependent on getting negative feedback to readjust. Even for really controversial takes, I will second guess myself.

I was trying to make an argument for individual responsibility, the fact that people should resign from toxic places in protest and our legal system has a very high standard for accusing people of being responsible for someone's death.

What I wrote was dog turd and maybe every polished variation of it would end up a dog turd.

But it's out there now. New lines drawn, new lines will evitably be over stepped.

Blaming women for having to endure sexual harassment... yeah I think I'd call that a "controversial take."