"Frat boy culture" cited as serious factor for pay disparity, sexual harassment.
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His name is J. Allen Brack:Blizzard Entertainment president J. Allard Brack allegedly received a direct report from...
None of the people who made the games you played are there any more or are likely to have been implicated in this.Going to sound stupid but I’m pretty gutted by this news. Spent bloody 1000s of hours of my life playing Blizzard games
Activision is the cancer.
Activision's response is pretty hilarious actually.
The first part claims that the state agency's lawsuit has no merit while the second part explicitly mentioned that Activision has made reforms/changes since then; changes that addressed the very things the state agency mentioned.
If the suit has no merit, why bother mention that reforms/changes were made in response to the lawsuit?
As a result, Activision's response tells me a lot more about their internal shenanigans than the lawsuit so I'd say that the lawsuit has a hell of a lot more merit than Activision wants people to believe.
None of the people who made the games you played are there any more or are likely to have been implicated in this.Going to sound stupid but I’m pretty gutted by this news. Spent bloody 1000s of hours of my life playing Blizzard games
Activision is the cancer.
Sadly no Alex Afrasiabi has been implicated in this as well and he has been there since at least the start of wow. My first blizzard game was Warcraft Orcs and Humans tho
None of the people who made the games you played are there any more or are likely to have been implicated in this.Going to sound stupid but I’m pretty gutted by this news. Spent bloody 1000s of hours of my life playing Blizzard games
Activision is the cancer.
Sadly no Alex Afrasiabi has been implicated in this as well and he has been there since at least the start of wow. My first blizzard game was Warcraft Orcs and Humans tho
Which also says that folks like Morhaime and other Blizzard oldguard were aware of all of this.
I think that makes you better at PR than Blizzard's PR department.Glad to see these charges, sounds awful, but blaming EA for a suicide seems a bit much. Their work culture might genuinely be toxic, but no one is forcing people to work there until they end their lives. Just resign.
I too have written some dumb comments in my life, but my saving grace is that before I click ’submit’, I consider whether what dumb shit I just wrote should be shared with the world or not. I think that, on average, I am on the right side of the line. I may be wrong, of course. This comment shows that you need to think about where you are in relation to that line. But then again I don’t think I’ve ever written something this dumb.
None of the people who made the games you played are there any more or are likely to have been implicated in this.Going to sound stupid but I’m pretty gutted by this news. Spent bloody 1000s of hours of my life playing Blizzard games
Activision is the cancer.
Sadly no Alex Afrasiabi has been implicated in this as well and he has been there since at least the start of wow. My first blizzard game was Warcraft Orcs and Humans tho
Which also says that folks like Morhaime and other Blizzard oldguard were aware of all of this.
Yep this behaviour goes deep. I really hope Metzen and Kaplan aren’t caught up in it, but knowing it’s happening and doing nothing is piss poor.
J Allard was an *extremely* high profile and influential executive at Microsoft. As an example, he famously sent out a memo about how the internet was going to take over computing, so Microsoft needed to embrace it. He's probably the single reason MS put together their own IP stack.@author and editor:
His name is J. Allen Brack:Blizzard Entertainment president J. Allard Brack allegedly received a direct report from...
https://www.activisionblizzard.com/lead ... llen-brack
Where did "Allard" come from?
Googling "J. Allard Brack" just returns this article and everyone who's reposted it already.
You should probably read into the allegations and testimony more. A whole lot of it dates back far before Activision.None of the people who made the games you played are there any more or are likely to have been implicated in this.Going to sound stupid but I’m pretty gutted by this news. Spent bloody 1000s of hours of my life playing Blizzard games
Activision is the cancer.
Goddamn assholes. I have no doubt this is true.
You don't have tons of women coming forward when it isn't true.
Blizzard can go to hell.
Their response instantly made me convinced the suit has merit. Which is a shame, since Activision Blizzard used to be such a powerhouse of a game studio, but was ruined as so many others by being an EA takeover. I really do not understand why EA and Tencent are allowed to buy up every successful game studio out there - it really isn't healthy for society.
Oh Activision. Throwing out the words “unaccountable bureaucrats” when we all know that here it means “not bribable and not in contact with lobbyists.”
Oh Activision. Throwing out the words “unaccountable bureaucrats” when we all know that here it means “not bribable and not in contact with lobbyists.”
I am reminded of the saying among lawyers. "If you have the facts on your side, pound the facts; if you have the law on your side, pound the law; if you have neither the facts nor the law, pound the table." I think that table Activision Blizzard just stood near has a big dent in it now.
If youve got kids to feed, career suicide is not a moral choice.Do we know if any men did speak out? And were they retaliated against? If the culture is that pervasive you can imagine the pressure to conform must have been horrible. It takes a lot of guts (and financial security) to stand up and commit professional suicide; especially knowing the other companies are going to be equally bad and that being blacklisted as a whistleblower is going to make you a toxic hire.In this reddit post they have links to some victim tweets and comments.
I'm not surprised about the frat culture, what I am surprised is how far some people took it.
I mean, do this.. "people" even realized what they were doing to other human beings? How can you get to be a disgusting piece of shit like that?
As IT crowd so brilliantly put it: "People, what a bunch of bastards"
Some people took it that far because all the other men allowed it. A man looking the other way is a man that lets it continue. A man that laughs it off as "boys being boys" is a man that lets it continue. A man that thinks it's not serious enough to do more than a slap on the wrist is a man that lets it continue.
The grotesque don't appear out of nowhere. They feel free to do what they do because they don't get real pushback if they get any pushback at all. This is what people mean when they talk about "Rape Culture".
But the thing is, staying silent because you fear the consequences is effectively same thing as staying silent because you don't care or because you approve. It doesn't even matter if those consequences are real, by being passive you are part of the problem.
Even if we assume that you can't speak up directly -- which often isn't actually the case depending on what you are doing -- that doesn't mean there aren't other options available. There's loads.
And frankly, if, at the end of the day, you have to choose between career suicide or passively letting women be sexually assaulted, then the only moral choice is career suicide. Find another career.
But let's be honest, we know that the vast majority of men at Blizzard did nothing AT BEST and this was obviously common knowledge. Given how toxic what was going on, likely most of the men were more than a passive part of the problem.
Continuing to work (while looking for a job elsewhere) and making confidential reports to state organizations (and demanding action on those complaints, including taking the complaints to the media if the state doesn't act) is the moral choice.
Oh Activision. Throwing out the words “unaccountable bureaucrats” when we all know that here it means “not bribable and not in contact with lobbyists.”
I am reminded of the saying among lawyers. "If you have the facts on your side, pound the facts; if you have the law on your side, pound the law; if you have neither the facts nor the law, pound the table." I think that table Activision Blizzard just stood near has a big dent in it now.
It's hard for me to imagine an actual corporate attorney OK'ing a statement like this for public release. If true, Activision has already lost their case.
Their response instantly made me convinced the suit has merit. Which is a shame, since Activision Blizzard used to be such a powerhouse of a game studio, but was ruined as so many others by being an EA takeover. I really do not understand why EA and Tencent are allowed to buy up every successful game studio out there - it really isn't healthy for society.
J Allard was an *extremely* high profile and influential executive at Microsoft. As an example, he famously sent out a memo about how the internet was going to take over computing, so Microsoft needed to embrace it. He's probably the single reason MS put together their own IP stack.@author and editor:
His name is J. Allen Brack:Blizzard Entertainment president J. Allard Brack allegedly received a direct report from...
https://www.activisionblizzard.com/lead ... llen-brack
Where did "Allard" come from?
Googling "J. Allard Brack" just returns this article and everyone who's reposted it already.
He's still doing stuff, but not at Microsoft anymore.
Glad to see these charges, sounds awful, but blaming EA for a suicide seems a bit much. Their work culture might genuinely be toxic, but no one is forcing people to work there until they end their lives. Just resign.
I too have written some dumb comments in my life, but my saving grace is that before I click ’submit’, I consider whether what dumb shit I just wrote should be shared with the world or not. I think that, on average, I am on the right side of the line. I may be wrong, of course. This comment shows that you need to think about where you are in relation to that line. But then again I don’t think I’ve ever written something this dumb.
None of the people who made the games you played are there any more or are likely to have been implicated in this.Going to sound stupid but I’m pretty gutted by this news. Spent bloody 1000s of hours of my life playing Blizzard games
Activision is the cancer.
Then entire gamer culture - from software houses to players - is totally fucked up.
Change my view.
Not specific to gamers my dude. Nor does gaming cause it. Asshole-ism is everywhere.
Then entire gamer culture - from software houses to players - is totally fucked up.
Change my view.
When you say the "entire gamer culture" you're including all gamers here.
We're not all like THAT... granted, a high percentage is, but not everyone!
Their response instantly made me convinced the suit has merit. Which is a shame, since Activision Blizzard used to be such a powerhouse of a game studio, but was ruined as so many others by being an EA takeover. I really do not understand why EA and Tencent are allowed to buy up every successful game studio out there - it really isn't healthy for society.
Did they mean Bill Cosby?The allegations note that Afrasiabi's office suite was known as the "Crosby Suite", in reference to Bill Crosby for obvious reasons.
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Hey everybody, does our industry have a bit of a deep rooted misogyny problem? Naw, it's the women who are dumb and weak and not biologically built for pro gamer moves.Glad to see these charges, sounds awful, but blaming EA for a suicide seems a bit much. Their work culture might genuinely be toxic, but no one is forcing people to work there until they end their lives. Just resign.
Completely misinterpreting me. I'm all for the charges. I don't think any of the women are dumb and I don't believe any mysgonist bullshit.
I just think that accusing Blizzard of essentially murdering a lady through their good old boys workplace culture seems extreme? Are all the workers their guilty? Was it just HR? Was it an individual? Should they be charging the individual(s) that lead to the commit suicide? If they can prove a direct correlation, why is it a an ethics complaint, not a criminal investigation?
Ok so it is a dumb take, I'm dumb a rock when it comes to the legal system. I just don't get what level of evidence you need to claim a company is directly responsible for the suicide of their employee but none of the individual employees are? Maybe I just missed the part where they explain the casualty.
It feels extreme to me, maybe it's not. No one else seems to find it extreme.
So I guess California is at it again...Wouldn't this be a private citizen issue? Government trying to control private industry...and it's California. What a left concept.
So I guess California is at it again...Wouldn't this be a private citizen issue? Government trying to control private industry...and it's California. What a left concept.
Glad to see these charges, sounds awful, but blaming EA for a suicide seems a bit much. Their work culture might genuinely be toxic, but no one is forcing people to work there until they end their lives. Just resign.
I too have written some dumb comments in my life, but my saving grace is that before I click ’submit’, I consider whether what dumb shit I just wrote should be shared with the world or not. I think that, on average, I am on the right side of the line. I may be wrong, of course. This comment shows that you need to think about where you are in relation to that line. But then again I don’t think I’ve ever written something this dumb.
Yeah it was dumb and I go over the line all the time. I don't have good instincts for it, never have, or sometimes I have great instincts for months it years but then I second guess where the line is and throw it out into the world. The reality is I'm often dependent on getting negative feedback to readjust. Even for really controversial takes, I will second guess myself.
I was trying to make an argument for individual responsibility, the fact that people should resign from toxic places in protest and our legal system has a very high standard for accusing people of being responsible for someone's death.
What I wrote was dog turd and maybe every polished variation of it would end up a dog turd.
But it's out there now. New lines drawn, new lines will evitably be over stepped.
I'm also willing to bet the people who hold this opinion would themselves never make such a choice. For them, there would suddenly be reasons why they can't be expected to sacrifice themselves. They'd turn the logic right around if stuck in the same scenario. Keyboard warrior bullshit that lives outside the real world.
Organizational culture is set by organization leadership - not so much in terms of what they promote but in the example that they set themselves and the behviour that they expect, reward, tolerate, or do not tolerate from their subordinates.
So, given that this is a deep seated cultural problem, I'll remain skeptical of any attempts to address it that don't involve mass turnover at the management and executive levels.
(That particular institutional cultural rot is currently coming home to roost for the Canadian military, especially at the national headquarters level. Just check the list of senior officers and defence staff that have recently resigned, are being investigated, or actively prosecuted)
Organizational culture is set by organization leadership - not so much in terms of what they promote but in the example that they set themselves and the behviour that they expect, reward, tolerate, or do not tolerate from their subordinates.
So, given that this is a deep seated cultural problem, I'll remain skeptical of any attempts to address it that don't involve mass turnover at the management and executive levels.
(That particular institutional cultural rot is currently coming home to roost for the Canadian military, especially at the national headquarters level. Just check the list of senior officers and defence staff that have recently resigned, are being investigated, or actively prosecuted)
I'm male and I have worked around monsters like this and it's truly an awful thing to have to put up with. If your not like them they tend to harass you no matter what your gender is but it's definitely worse for women.
You understand that businesses are subject to laws as well, right?So I guess California is at it again...Wouldn't this be a private citizen issue? Government trying to control private industry...and it's California. What a left concept.