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[carldjennings]

infernallexicon[/url]":3lvlequj]

nibb[/url]":3lvlequj]The problem is not Apple or Samsung. Its the patent system.

Has someone read this patents?

This is so broad that it applies to everything. TV, Radio, Every Single computer or Internet services, you name it. Even Google can be sued for this patent. Apple can sue the entire computer industry and planet earth with something like this. This is just plain ridiculous, that this patents are approved.

Lets paste it here:
The present invention provides convenient access to items of information that are related to various descriptors input by a user, by means of a unitary interface which is capable of accessing information in a variety of locations, through a number of different techniques. Using a plurality of heuristic algorithms to operate upon information descriptors input by the user, the present invention locates and displays candidate items of information for selection and/or retrieval. Thus, the advantages of a search engine can be exploited, while listing only relevant object candidate items of information.

This is again a, "don't hate the player, hate the game," excuse. A system isn't in place but that doesn't mean these companies have to exploit the system.

This is the problem with Apple. This is exactly why the only Apple products I own are an old iPod Classic that hasn't died yet and a couple Apple battery chargers.

These patents are just as vague as Apple's "rounded corners" patents. They're just mad because Android is a better, smarter operating system and Samsung phones are also just better than iPhones. Seriously, one navigation button on a phone and you have to go in the Settings menu for everything? I was even initially disappointed with my Samsung device because it lacks a search button, as I was a former Motorola user.

Apple has gotten pretty gimmicky, in my opinion. Sure, they have the retina display and their camera is pretty decent, but other phones were dual-core (and quad-core) before the iPhone and other phones adopted 4G LTE before, as well.

Although I have to say: I have the grey Galaxy Note II from Sprint and when I opened the box and saw a white charging cable and white headphones with remote and mic, I thought, "Really, Samsung?" I don't know why they're trying to emulate Apple so much. They have so much more going for them.

What, did Apple patent the color white?

 

[Neemobeer]

Dear Judge, pleae invalidate this ridiculously broad patent else I must stock up on popcorn for the show...

 

[carldjennings]

ScifiterX[/url]":2yhgpwob]

nibb[/url]":2yhgpwob]Apple does not compete or invent. Every single thing Apple created was already invented before them, they just slightly improved it. Now instead of creating new things and innovating. They go in a legal killing spree to cripple competition. This is not how a business should run. It should embrace competition. Apple is possible the worst company the technology world ever saw come to life. They just want to stop every single advance in this field claiming they own everything.

I have to point out Apple invented IEEE-1394 but a lot of what Apple creates are methodologies for improving and implementing ideas using existing technologies. Archimedes could be accused of doing this by wrapping an inclined plane around a cylinder. A vast majority of what has come to be is the result of this style of innovation. Henry Ford & Thomas Edison were big on using this strategy. If you want to accuse a company of being "worst company the technology world ever saw come to life" look at Sony as of late. As a media company, their mission is completely at odds with the technology world. Apple has little interest in creating media content, merely distributing it to increase hardware sales.

Replace 'Apple' with 'Google', and 'hardware sales' with 'ad revenue'

 

[ReaderBot]

Thus, the advantages of a search engine can be exploited, while listing only relevant object candidate items of information.

That's one of the best lines I've ever seen in a patent. Because utilizing a search engine to retrieve relevant information is so novel it deserves patent protection.

 

[carldjennings]

brazuca[/url]":2i7tp3du]

bettercitizens[/url]":2i7tp3du]

john82[/url]":2i7tp3du]I feel like the general reader opinion has shifted from apple fanboyism to reason, based on most of these comments. Maybe I'm remembering wrong, but I think when apple vs samsung law suite first reared its ugly head more people were saying shame on samsung for copying apple.

All of the comments that have been generated since Steve Jobs stated that he was going thermonuclear on the patents are meaningless. What matters is the basis of the arguments of Apple Inc. and Samsung in court. Apple did win the recent lawsuit and initially $1.05 Billion. However that was later reduced.

Quick correction: it was not reduced. Some part of it was remanded for a new damages trial. The outcome will determine if the amount is reduced, maintained, or increased.

Regardless of the amount, the trial proved that Samsung infringed. That is beyond dispute.

No, it only proves that the jury felt the odds were higher that they did infringe than that they didn't.

 

[brazuca]

tetracycloide[/url]":3d6rv1jo]

brazuca[/url]":3d6rv1jo]
But the verdict stands: Samsung was found to infringe.

Not exactly:

This award cannot stand.

That's sort of the opposite of 'the verdict stands' really.

veredict != award

 

[h4ng0ver]

brazuca[/url]":wdcux9an]

GenocideOwl[/url]":wdcux9an]Could you imagine this type of litigation and patent environment when other industries started up big?
Like imagine how drastically different the motor vehicle revolution would have been if 4 wheels was patented. Or having a windshield.... seat belts....a circular driving mechanism....ability to shift up!
this stuff is just ridiculous.

At the onset of the PC "revolution", patents played a big role. Apple sued MS and lost because, IIRC, the judge found that a previous agreement gave MS the right to use Apple IP.


This is nothing new and the industry has been thriving ever since.

You got that right. For the industry to thrive again, Apple needs to lose and yes, they will.

 

[brazuca]

h4ng0ver[/url]":2y755blz]

brazuca[/url]":2y755blz]

GenocideOwl[/url]":2y755blz]Could you imagine this type of litigation and patent environment when other industries started up big?
Like imagine how drastically different the motor vehicle revolution would have been if 4 wheels was patented. Or having a windshield.... seat belts....a circular driving mechanism....ability to shift up!
this stuff is just ridiculous.

At the onset of the PC "revolution", patents played a big role. Apple sued MS and lost because, IIRC, the judge found that a previous agreement gave MS the right to use Apple IP.


This is nothing new and the industry has been thriving ever since.

You got that right. For the industry to thrive again, Apple needs to lose and yes, they will.

Spoken like a true fanatic.

 

[RED-404]

When I read articles like this I think of 2 kids fighting over crayons. There are 133 identical things that do the same thing just different shades. So Apple you can use Blue, Samsung you can use Denim and Google is coming over later so let him use Navy Blue, Violet Blue or New Car and if you don't I'm taking the box.

 

[h4ng0ver]

brazuca[/url]":314fsyxz]

h4ng0ver[/url]":314fsyxz]

brazuca[/url]":314fsyxz]

GenocideOwl[/url]":314fsyxz]Could you imagine this type of litigation and patent environment when other industries started up big?
Like imagine how drastically different the motor vehicle revolution would have been if 4 wheels was patented. Or having a windshield.... seat belts....a circular driving mechanism....ability to shift up!
this stuff is just ridiculous.

At the onset of the PC "revolution", patents played a big role. Apple sued MS and lost because, IIRC, the judge found that a previous agreement gave MS the right to use Apple IP.


This is nothing new and the industry has been thriving ever since.

You got that right. For the industry to thrive again, Apple needs to lose and yes, they will.

Spoken like a true fanatic.

Hi Pot ..Kettle here and ..we're both black.

 

[Nostromo21]

Sad, pathetic, desperate tactics from a company that will be irrelevant in 5 years, and that for some of us has been entirely irrelevant since the days of having to use an Apple IIe in high school lol!

 

[noagwworship]

Time to invalidate every software patent forever!

 

[ws3]

brazuca[/url]":3d32nwyb]

bettercitizens[/url]":3d32nwyb]

HisDivineOrder[/url]":3d32nwyb]Too bad Apple thinks they invented everything. Perhaps they might innovate again if they stopped litigating so much...

Apple Computer, Inc. now Apple, Inc.did not invent everything... as everyone knows Al Gore, who sits on the Board of Directors of Apple, Inc; invented the Internet! ;-P

http://www.snopes.com/quotes/internet.asp

Quoted from snopes: "During my service in the U.S. Congress, I took the initiative in creating the internet."

Thanks brazuca, and snopes, for confirming that Al Gore is a blowhard.

 

[ws3]

DannyB[/url]":389mtmme]

ws3[/url]":389mtmme]

rmm200[/url]":389mtmme]Companies abusing the patent system should have ALL of their patents invalidated. Yes Apple, I am looking at you!

Suing over a granted patent is not abusing the patent system.
The problem is that the patents in question never should have been granted in the first place.

Filing for a patent that should never have been granted is abusing the patent system.

Now that's just dumb.

The rules of the game, as currently defined, make it negligent in the extreme for any large technology company to not apply for as many patents as possible.

 

[anacrophobic]

nibb[/url]":iazofkgv]The problem is not Apple or Samsung. Its the patent system.

Has someone read this patents?

This is so broad that it applies to everything. TV, Radio, Every Single computer or Internet services, you name it. Even Google can be sued for this patent. Apple can sue the entire computer industry and planet earth with something like this. This is just plain ridiculous, that this patents are approved.

Lets paste it here:
The present invention provides convenient access to items of information that are related to various descriptors input by a user, by means of a unitary interface which is capable of accessing information in a variety of locations, through a number of different techniques. Using a plurality of heuristic algorithms to operate upon information descriptors input by the user, the present invention locates and displays candidate items of information for selection and/or retrieval. Thus, the advantages of a search engine can be exploited, while listing only relevant object candidate items of information.

Seriously... that patent just described a bug identification database we've been using for the last 15 years.

 

[zer0x1A4]

nibb[/url]":1rg5vrc6]The problem is not Apple or Samsung. Its the patent system.

Has someone read this patents?

This is so broad that it applies to everything. TV, Radio, Every Single computer or Internet services, you name it. Even Google can be sued for this patent. Apple can sue the entire computer industry and planet earth with something like this. This is just plain ridiculous, that this patents are approved.

Lets paste it here:
The present invention provides convenient access to items of information that are related to various descriptors input by a user, by means of a unitary interface which is capable of accessing information in a variety of locations, through a number of different techniques. Using a plurality of heuristic algorithms to operate upon information descriptors input by the user, the present invention locates and displays candidate items of information for selection and/or retrieval. Thus, the advantages of a search engine can be exploited, while listing only relevant object candidate items of information.

Building on what you have posted, if I am reading this right, essentially this could have been extended to, say, Google taking a patent out on "searching the Internet for web pages and resources in a variety of locations, through a number of techniques, using a plurality of heuristic algorithms to operate upon search term descriptors input by the user, the present invention locates and displays candidate items of information for selection and/or retrieval." ?? I'm not suggesting Google invented search, but neither did Apple invent voice-search, but it would seem that Google could have done this and then turned around and sued Microsoft over Bing, Yahoo, Lycos, DuckDuckGo, etc... Seriously, how does this kind of stuff actually get approved in the patent office?

 

[doppio]

ws3[/url]":2omp5gty]

DannyB[/url]":2omp5gty]...
Filing for a patent that should never have been granted is abusing the patent system.

Now that's just dumb.

The rules of the game, as currently defined, make it negligent in the extreme for any large technology company to not apply for as many patents as possible.

"The rules of the patent system, as currently defined, make it negligent in the extreme for any large technology company to not abuse the system as much as possible."

FTFY

 

[DrNemmo]

This means that they ran out of ideas. There's nothing left in Apple's idea box: it's all gone. They ate all the cookies. No more pasta. No more M&Ms left in the bag.

The only thing left to do is try to cry and demand everybody else's plates.

 

[Brewer]

barich[/url]":3b2rntne]Smartphones existed for years before the iPhone, and most of them were pretty awful. Apple waited to enter the market until advances such as capacitive touchscreens and reasonably powerful SOCs were available at a reasonable price point to allow for a significantly improved user experience. The thing is, I find it hard to believe that iPhone-like products wouldn't have shown up eventually. Apple just got theirs out first. They have a knack for entering a market at the right time, when the technology is ready for a slick product.

There's no use arguing that Google hasn't copied from iOS. But iOS was hardly the original, and Apple has done plenty of copying from Google (and Microsoft, and Palm, etc.) as well.

This is ridiculous to the extreme. Sure, iPhone was OBVIOUS, right? Is this why everyone waited until it was out to, you know, completely COPY IT?

That's just daft beyond belief. iPhone was RIDICULED when it came out. AAPL tanked. MSFT joked about it, so did RIM and practically all of Wall Street. It was that obvious. LOL

 

[achris12]

Honestly this doesn't shock me at all! One day Apple will sue the world for using the letter i. I mean clearly Apple hates Samsung for no apparent reason. I don't see as to why they are suing Samsung for those two patents! It's as if Apple has nothing better to do in between iPhone releases then to sue Samsung and other companies.

 

[tetracycloide]

achris12[/url]":ms82mr6j]Honestly this doesn't shock me at all! One day Apple will sue the world for using the letter i. I mean clearly Apple hates Samsung for no apparent reason. I don't see as to why they are suing Samsung for those two patents! It's as if Apple has nothing better to do in between iPhone releases then to sue Samsung and other companies.

Hey, those are Apple's letters!