Staffers warn DOT's use of Gemini to draft rules could cause injuries and deaths.
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Depends on the state. Some don't even require the novelty hats.My main experience with DOT is that it's a safety standard that lets US motorcyclists ride in novelty hats.
Ruled by idiots, who are paid by idiots to promote the use of idiotic things. Sometimes I want to get off this planet.
Would be so cool. Sadly I'm way too dumb to have a chance for that.Try for a spot on Artemis?
There's an idiot for that, too.Ruled by idiots, who are paid by idiots to promote the use of idiotic things. Sometimes I want to get off this planet.
Its part of the death of experts. The stupid idea that you can use ai to make anyone capable of doing any job or replace experts with aiSo the use of AI in government is predicated on the idea that the national debt has been caused by there being too many technical writers in the DOT?
I have ranted about this in another AI comment section about writing reports, but I really wonder how many people are so ignorant about why creating these kinds of documents take so much time.If there's only one thing that companies are looking for in DOT rules, it's speed and changes and factual errors.
DOT staffers were told that “most of what goes into the preambles of DOT regulatory documents is just ‘word salad,’” and “Gemini can do word salad.”
That was exactly my thought when the price came up. Over on the space discussions, there have been repeated assurances that SpaceX can be considered reasonable, if even overbidding (good for profit!), for their launch services because the government audits them to be assured materials and services aren't being bid below cost. I'm very confused as to how these cloud services were analyzed on bid because this sounds exactly like the "first dose is free, then get locked in" sort of situation government procurement is supposed to prevent. Also I'd definitely like to see what realistic bids, properly held to the cost + margin requirements, look like even if the rest of the auditing remains under seal (as it should).How do these companies get away with only charging $1 or less for something that actually should cost millions of dollars? I'm a federal contractor and we have annual training that reminds us we must bill for every minute worked--we can't give away something of value to the government.
Because the data is what’s actually valuable here; no one in the trump admin is savvy enough to know if you aren’t paying, you’re the product.How do these companies get away with only charging $1 or less for something that actually should cost millions of dollars? I'm a federal contractor and we have annual training that reminds us we must bill for every minute worked--we can't give away something of value to the government.
Technically, as long as the rules/regulations/etc. have a senior expert listed as the author (or the leading author), a person who puts their reputation on it and bears responsibility, I don’t really care about the process they use to get stuff done.
I mean, as long as it’s a product of a one-line prompt, not vetted by anyone who knows what they’re doing.
On the other hand, using a high-end LLM to brainstorm and work through the stuff and then use it to produce a raw draft is ok with me. In particular, when you take the said draft and feed it to a different LLM with instructions to be extremely critical of the thing. And when there is an actual expert that approves things as if they wrote it themselves. Yeah, I know, not in this universe…
This guy is a lawyer. He has no specialties in transportation, and in fact has never before been part of that side of government. He's worked mostly to draft rules, and nothing else.But the DOT’s top lawyer, Gregory Zerzan, isn’t worried about that, December meeting notes revealed, because the point isn’t for AI to be perfect. It’s for AI to help speed up the rulemaking process, so that rules that take weeks or months to draft can instead be written within 30 days. According to Zerzan, DOT’s preferred tool, Google Gemini, can draft rules in under 30 minutes.
There is no such thing. You're ALWAYS moving the goalposts in a world that actually has time passing. What worked before, becomes untenable. And this twit is aiming for a very low bar.“We don’t need the perfect rule on XYZ,” Zerzan told DOT staffers at the meeting. “We don’t even need a very good rule on XYZ. We want good enough.”
My novelty hat was $500 and manufactured by Shoei and independently certified by Snell, at least.My main experience with DOT is that it's a safety standard that lets US motorcyclists ride in novelty hats.
“But, what are electrolytes? It's what plants crave, dummy!” The AI explanation coming to you.It's too complicated having all these different kids of liquids. Could we get rid of water since it is tasteless anyway? We could replace it with a high energy drink. One plants would crave.
Because it has been shown that trying to understand code that some else (especially AI) wrote and then fixing the errors in it, is so much less efficient that doing it all yourself. This is the LLM AI model in a nutshell. Create something that will pass a casual non-critical examination, but fails badly when tried in practice, so an expert is required to find the errors and fix them. Any other method leaves Altman, Google, etc. out of the loop and that is really horribly bad! Bad dog*!! Bad dog*!!!I'm genuinely curious what you feel the benefit of using an LLM to then feed through another LLM, and then having it all reviewed by an expert is over just having the expert do it it.
I'm not sure I've ever read a more horrifying sentence. The last thing our over-regulated country needs is for its thoroughly captured bureaucracy to have the ability to create more rules in shorter time.It’s for AI to help speed up the rulemaking process, so that rules that take weeks or months to draft can instead be written within 30 days.
47 cents/year, how subtle Google.
I'm not sure I've ever read a more horrifying sentence. The last thing our over-regulated country needs is for its thoroughly captured bureaucracy to have the ability to create more rules in shorter time.
DOT is probably not the best place to test AI either. Can AI do word salad? Sure. But the part of the rules that correspond with real world activities and objects might be beyond the comprehension of AI, leading to dangerous mistakes.
Note that nowhere is 'safety' addressed, which should be DOT's purpose
The skeletons have been pouring out for a fucking decade. Turns out, America loves 'em.Implement this as fast as possible, please, so that the skeletons will fall out of the closets before the midterms.
No, it does not. People at the department 'think'... and in this case, it would appear that the 'thinking" is being done by lawyers representing the department; Daniel Cohen and Gregory Zerzan. Lawyers are good at ensuring no one responsible will be held liable for the impending deaths caused by AI created DoT policies; which like most gov policies will focus on increasing the profits of corporate sponsors first, and the safety of the constituents last.The US Department of Transportation apparently thinks...
I want the dangerous idiots off this planet. Why should I have to leave, when they're the ones that suck?Ruled by idiots, who are paid by idiots to promote the use of idiotic things. Sometimes I want to get off this planet.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!! What could possibly go wrong?
(I thought we were some months away from April fools day...)