Trump’s new head of DOT rips up US fuel efficiency regulations

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It also calls electric vehicle subsidies an "ill-conceived government-imposed market distortion" that is making cars unaffordable.

Subsidies... make cars unaffordable????!!!!! Between this and yesterday's FCC chief saying monopolies provide lower prices, this entire administration is failing any Econ 101 that's not at Prager U or serving Austrian nonsense.
 
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With cars sold from dealerships painted with Trump branded leaded paint!
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(From https://www.penny-arcade.com/comic/1999/10/18/boob-raider)
 
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I don't think The Second Coming has anything to do with this. If these people actually adhered to any of the non-evil tenets of Christianity, they wouldn't behave as they do.

No, no, this is purely greed, plain and simple. Any barrier to them making more wealth must be torn down. They don't care about what the planet looks like for their children or (especially) anyone else's children. It's all about how much money they can acquire NOW.

Imagine if you knew that starting January 1st, 2026 all resources and products created, extracted, or otherwise obtained would be divided equally amongst all humans on the planet. You could acquire - at most - one eight-billionth of everything produced, be it food, minerals, lumber, or software. You'd have the urge to make sure that you spent the months leading up to that accumulating as much stuff as you possibly could, so you could continue on in comfort/luxury.

Well, that's how these guys feel all the time about anything that might possibly help anyone. Existential fear that they are going to have less privilige and stuff than they do now.

It doesn't matter to them the example of Bejing having to do extraordinary things to host the Olympics because of polution. That's fine, because they - individually - will be enjoying their private island resorts and mega-yachts. The voting populace is just a resource to be mined, and you get to live in the smog. They'd reintroduce leaded gas if it would let them make more money, even if your kids' IQs will drop because of it.

TLDR: this is greed, not faith.
I take it you haven’t heard of prosperity theology then? It’s a combination of greed and faith.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prosperity_theology
 
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Meanwhile, not only did atmospheric carbon dioxide reach record levels for the last few million years last year, but it also rose by a record amount. Vote for malevolent cretins, get a kalistocratic kleptocracy. And more wild fires and record hurricane and tornado damage while we are about it. Nobody should say that the human race did not eagerly rush towards a fate it actually had the knowledge to avoid. It does not affect me, as I have placed myself in an area where the really bad effects, save incoming Floridians, will only arrive after I am dead, but kind of sucks for the kids and grandkids.
 
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H2O Rip

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I don’t get that. Just straight up no electric vehicles no matter the circumstance? Does that include stuff like the post office? That just doesn‘t make sense
There are 3 rules for this admin as far as I can see so far.

if it's something Biden did so it must be reversed.

It let's their friends siphon money like true oligarchs

It serves the fetishes of some extreme religious christofascist philosophy.

Pretty much all of this project 2025 and Trump grievance shit falls under one of those.
 
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I hope the fucking morons that sat on their hands not voting for Harris and then tried to cover their asses with "maybe he will be good for the economy?" are enjoying their $9 eggs, watching their LGBTQ friends fall under figurative and literal crosshairs, and now unwinding the fabric of the United States are pleased with themselves. The Gulf of "America" is going to be on fire in months.

At least the guy that shot United CEO didn't miss. God fucking damnit.
 
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The Dark

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Is that true? We (in the Netherlands) have an average and median age of 87 and a bit. Is it really that much of a difference?

Where are you getting that from? The last number from the WHO puts it at 81.1 with a pre-COVID peak of 82.3 (and puts the United States at 76.4 with a pre-COVID peak of 78.7).
 
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They're so old they don't care about the health of the environment; they'll all be dead in twenty years so it's not their problem. Their problem is the "high price" of vehicles conforming to lower emissions, but uh, I'm pretty sure that's just inflation and reflections of costs from the pandemic.
I’m a parent who’s been buying small starter cars for my kids for the last 6 years including before COVID. So, I’ve been acutely aware of what’s out there in the new/used market for small cars. I don’t think the problem of low priced sedans is mostly to do with the regs. US carmakers have decided to concentrate on bigger vehicles that cost more as they are more profitable. Could Chevy make a small truck like the 70s/80s S10? Sure. The engines that comply are there. We know they make sedans for EU and elsewhere that are efficient enough but there’s not enough profit for them when they can spit out big, ugly SUVs and F150s for sale tens of thousands of dollars more expensive. Then consumers shy away from small cars because they don’t feel safe when everything driving around them is huge. Carmakers know what they’re doing: steering the whole market to bigger, more expensive vehicles.

None of these Trump administration changes is going to change the trajectory much. It’s all theatrics like the Gulf of <insert name>. The large markets outside the US have their own rules and it won’t prevent GM from having to invest in research to meet the regs in those markets. Carmakers also don’t believe that these regulatory retreats will be permanent (only delayed) since Dems could take the White House in 4 years. Heck, the California rules might still be in effect all of Trump’s years since their CARB waver battle be tied up in court for years. Planning for carmakers is much longer than that. The only certainty here is that the other large markets will have tighter rules in place.
 
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<sigh> What's next? Mandates that all new cars must be coal-powered by 2027? That by 2032 all cars should be powered by wood-fired stoves fueled by copies of the US constitution? Someone down there in the current administration seen one too many post-apocalyptic movies in the 1980s and misunderstood the messages?
Its cute you think there will be any copies of the constituition left by 2032..I'm sure the children in power will be forcibly entering all homes and businesses to destroy all copies much sooner than that.

/jokingnotjoking
 
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you know what's really gonna make cars more efficient? bring back leaded gasoline!
Well now, hang on... [checks notes]... Yes. It seems you are on to something!!

As it turns out, leaded gas had lubrication properties for the valves and upper cylinders, and with increased lubrication an engine becomes more efficient, thus!! QED, bishes!!

You must be a Stable Genius!! Everyone says so!! Can we hire you? We only hire the best people!!
 
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"They're so old they don't care about the health of the environment."
I'll probably be dead in 20 years, too, but I care about my step kids and their children, too.
I see that the seasoning and perspective that can come with age haven't come to you yet, whippersnapper. Curiously, though, nearsightedness apparently has...
 
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Why are these kinds of decisions being left up to the vicissitudes of whichever brand of administration is in office? We've been dealing with vehicular air pollution for over 50 years at the national level, so this is not a new thing that administrations should get free rein to play with.

Fuel economy standards, purchase of BEVs for government use, phasing out of ICE vehicles, tax incentives for zero-emission vehicles, these are all well-known approaches to reducing pollution that should be enacted into law. Laws are binding and have much more permanence and impact than executive orders that can be reversed on a whim.

Congress needs to start taking back the powers that it has been ceding to the executive branch for the past few decades. The power of the purse, to determine how funds are raised and spent (including tariffs!). The power of setting national policy by writing appropriate laws. The power to declare war (when necessary). And the power of enacting the people's will. These belong to Congress, not the President. Congress needs to start acting like it.
 
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msawzall

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So, I guess we'll also be getting back leaded gasoline, engines with carbs that need constant fiddling, and massive displacements to get paltry HP?
When it's below 40 degrees out, you have to pump it a couple times to get it started. But not more than three times or you'll flood it.
 
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the acting administrator of the General Services Administration issued a memo late last week that barred the federal government from purchasing any zero-emissions vehicles.

So departments like the Post Office decreasing their fuel costs by using electric vehicles (efficiency) isn't allowed because they need to burn more fuel to increase oil demand so the oil companies have reason to drill more? Got it.
 
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I don’t get that. Just straight up no electric vehicles no matter the circumstance? Does that include stuff like the post office? That just doesn‘t make sense
I dont think they have any idea how many electric "vehicles" are used by the military, FAA, etc. Hell, my company commander would tool around on a golf cart
 
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If vehicles do not need to be better in the USA, but everywhere else, in a future the USA car manufacturers will be all at disadvantage so they will disappear... I don't see anything bad about that.
You would think they would remember the 70s 80s when Japanese car manufactures gained a foothold in the US because their cars were more reliable and fuel efficient.
 
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“You know what this nation needs in 2025? More cars, traffic, and pollution. Also to sprint off the climate change cliff”

-Trump voters and everyone who stayed home this election
I thiink I’m actually angrier at the idiots who stayed home in 2024 but voted for Biden in 2020.
 
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