Bucking RFK Jr., OB-GYNs release vaccine guidance that conflicts with CDC

Thirteen other medical groups have already endorsed the independent schedule.

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[thelongdarkteatimeof]

Do insurance companies follow cdc or these organizations? I would hope their actuaries have stats that show how right the medical orgs are and support vaccines.

Insurance companies follow whatever increases the returns for their investors.

Which is why private healthcare is evil.

 

[Tech-Space-Cars]

Waiting for the American Medical Association to make the same announcement.

 

[user12121]

Still amazes and depresses me that the country that put people on the moon, is now populated with people who have no compunction about gambling with their kids' lives over easily preventible diseases.

They're too busy betting on whether those kids will survive. It' not gambling though!

 

[WilDeliver]

AAP President Andrew Racine highlighted the need for such guidance, citing the vulnerability of babies. “Their immune systems are still developing, and in those first months of life, they rely on us—the adults around them—to help keep them safe.

Kennedy definitely also recognizes the vulnerability of babies. It makes them perfect targets.

 

[Purple Cow]

If only our government actually listened to doctors. I can easily see insurance companies following what the government says because it saves them money and basically leaving the cost of the vaccines up to the individual.

Edit: to give some context here this is happening. My covid-19 shot a few months ago cost me $250 because it wasn't covered by insurance as it was now considered elective. I can afford it but not everyone can. Regardless of the doctors recommendations we still need to be on the government because even if it is available it doesn't mean that everyone is going to be able and willing to pay up which will impact the vaccine rates regardless.

Insurance companies have committed to continuing to cover most routine vaccinations until (at least) the end of 2027, because that costs them less than treating vaccine-preventable diseases would.

A number of state health departments, including Massachusetts (where I live), have adopted the American Academy of Pediatrics and American Academy of Family Practitioners recommendations, and are requiring private insurance companies to cover those recommended vaccines.

Unfortunately, this doesn't help the children whose parents can least afford to pay for vaccines, because it doesn't cover the federal Vaccines for Children program.

 

[klarg]

The same country sadly also has a large number of people who think the moon landing was faked.

How could we have landed on the moon? That isn’t in the Bible!

 

[Hichung]

While everyone and every organization has its biases and politics... I would rather listen to a good doctor than a good politician for medical advice.

Good politician... Thanks for the chuckle.

 

[SomewhereAroundBarstow]

How could we have landed on the moon? That isn’t in the Bible!

God put Apollo 11 on the moon when he created it so he could test our faith.

 

[xPutNameHerex]

Good insurance companies will cover schedules that are not government approved recommendations like those from the ACOG and AAP because prevention is cheaper than acute care.

I do wonder whether bad insurance companies will only cover the government's list because they think a normal lifetime of preventative care is still more expensive than a very brief lifetime.

In practice insurance companies will not cover any vaccines they don't have to because it's cheaper. They will then not cover your acute care from getting those illnesses because you didn't get an "available" vaccine for it.

I honestly don't even know if I'm joking at this point.

 

[ReadandShare]

Where did you find a good politician?

Implying even a good politician isn't as qualified as a good doctor - so never mind RFK, jr.

 

[alxx]

Which advice do insurance companies use?

Which guidelines maximise their shareholder profits?

Long term, the guidelines that improve both maternal and infant health should impact them the least.
But no doubt some of the insurers will FAFO

Here in Australia some employers covers some vaccinations - mine provides flu free or will reimburse you for it. Some insurers will cover some of the ones the government doesn't provide but most are free from the government as part of medicare,

 

[Hydrargyrum]

If it ends up being the OB-GYNs that lead the revolution I will happily join them at the barricades.

Help us, OB-GYNs, you're our only hope?

 

[Hydrargyrum]

Which advice do insurance companies use?

Which guidelines maximise their shareholder profits?

Long term, the guidelines that improve both maternal and infant health should impact them the least.
But no doubt some of the insurers will FAFO

Here in Australia some employers covers some vaccinations - mine provides flu free or will reimburse you for it. Some insurers will cover some of the ones the government doesn't provide but most are free from the government as part of medicare,

I think the policy that serves the insurance companies the best would be to not cover optional vaccines, but deny coverage to anyone who suffers from a vaccine-preventable illness who could have been vaccinated but chose not to. On the grounds that that constitutes self-harm, and no insurer covers damage that insured people deliberately do to the insured things.

 

[graylshaped]

If it ends up being the OB-GYNs that lead the revolution I will happily join them at the barricades.

Once more unto the breach, dear friends...?

Kudos to ACOG for showing why we entrust them to bring our kids into the world.

 

[Space Filling]

Why does Kennedy want to kill babies ?

Somebody should ask him.

It's reverse projection.

They accused ObamaCare of introducing "death panels", so now they must introduce them themselves.

 

[sjl]

I remember when it was fun when the CDC put up a page about the Zombie Apocalypse. They should have stopped there... these new jokes are not funny.

Oh! I see what happened here. America thought the zombie apocalypse warning was a joke. If only you’d taken it seriously, you wouldn’t now be governed by zombies and their enablers.

All this time, it was because you thought a serious warning was a joke. Alas. The missed opportunity..

 

[WittyJohn]

Good - a voice of sanity.
They should expect some consequences for revolting against the king, unfortunately.

 

[nmysbh]

My covid-19 shot a few months ago cost me $250 because it wasn't covered by insurance as it was now considered elective.

I live in Europe and my elective COVID vaccine cost me the equivalent of $100. (I'm in a very low risk group so not eligible for a free vaccine)