Analysis of Texas measles outbreak shows just how dangerous virus is
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I doubt their license would vanish, but their ability to accept insurance would.
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but without a nomination by the president and the complicity of all the republican senators he'd just be another crank with a lame podcast.
oh yeah, and talking about rfkjr means we're not looking at the epstein files, so mission accomplished.
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The studies have been done, and the effect is known as measles immune amnesia. The virus weakens the patient's immune memory, making them more likely to die of other infectious diseases for two or three years.
There's also a small chance that the patient will later develop a rare but almost always fatal brain inflammation called sub-acute sclerosing pan encephalitis.
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Well, they are worshiping the anti-Christ so I guess they get points for being consistent?
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Child abuse, from the followers of that family values party that only cares about the child being born, not if it dies later under preventable circumstances.
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Worked on one of his productions in LA. He's a hardcore right winger. Every time he would say something, everyone, including the top people (producers, the director, the execs on hand) would roll their eyes.
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We don't have healthcare in America. We have health insurance. It is a financial instrument.
You pay a deductible.
You can buy extra coverage.
You have to go to an approved facility.
Car insurance and health insurance are two sides of the same coin. They are both exactly the same as listed above.
You pay a deductible.
You can buy extra coverage.
You have to go to an approved facility.
Car insurance and health insurance are two sides of the same coin. They are both exactly the same as listed above.
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Well, they do have some competition.
For example, all those unrepentant Brexiteers in the UK, and Silvio Burlusconi supporters in Italy, among others, still come to mind.
How does that saying go? Ah yes...
"A smart man learns from his mistake; a wise man learns from the mistakes of others."
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Thiel is obsessed with the anti-Christ. It’s a case of TDS (Thiel Derangement Syndrome).
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I think it's much more likely that what you're seeing here is patients with very mild cases (in last year's outbreak) not being accurately reported/counted.
This is a writeup of only known cases, in an environment where many who refuse vaccines see themselves as anti-establishment (and understand that their position isn't in alignment with standard medical recommendations... hell, in some cases it seems to fuel their persecution fantasies).
I'd bet money that lots of anti-vax parents whose kids had mild cases didn't report them to anyone outside their own social circle, and certainly not The Medical Establishment (TM). I'm a little surprised that so many non-hospitalized cases were actually reported.
What you seem to be advocating for, btw, is a return to hundreds of easily preventable children's deaths annually. Even the "safer" stats you pointed to (e.g. here) point to 400-500 annual deaths, 48k hospitalizations, and 1,000 cases of encephalitis, as a fraction of the population in the early 1960s.
The current US population is roughly 340,000,000 (vs. 179,000,000 around 1960, very roughly). So assume nearly double the number of easily preventable deaths, hospitalizations, and cases of encephalitis per year, mostly in kids.
That's still rare enough for any one individual to feel like "it's not so bad," if you don't look at population-level data. But the population data is readily available. I'm going to go out on a limb here and guess you were a kid in the pre-vaccination days, rather than a parent worrying about your own kids' health.
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What do you imagine I am "advocating" for? Pointing out apparent discrepancies in the statistics is not advocating anything. I think measles vaccination is a very good thing; that doesn't mean I need to nod along to every assertion about its benefits. If the assertion can be supported with argument, then we all learn something.
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To understand why this happened, here is the relevant context: https://www.texastribune.org/2025/12/17/texas-measles-mennonite-seminole-aftermath/
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Sadly the people that need to read these facts won't read them. All they do is rant on Facebook in some echo chamber that just makes them dumber by the year. Morons like this aren't reading science articles that's for sure. It's facebook for the boomers and instagram/tik tok for the rest of the morons.
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And a stupid man does his best to provide all possible examples for the wise man to learn from.
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And the mortality rate was higher (no supportive treatment), as was the amount of suffering. But, hey, no hospital bills!
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I got measles in the last big pandemic in the 1960s. 500,000 people got measles. 50,000 required medical intervention. 5000 suffered chronic permanent damage to their health. And 500 died.
Most of the chronic damage was to the brain due to encephalitis. Measles use to be the leading cause of deafness in the US. It was the leading cause of birth defects.
it is ironic that some of the encephalitis cases resulted in autism or autism like symptoms. This mean more people “got autism” from not getting the vaccine and contracting measles then got it from the measles vaccine
Most of the chronic damage was to the brain due to encephalitis. Measles use to be the leading cause of deafness in the US. It was the leading cause of birth defects.
it is ironic that some of the encephalitis cases resulted in autism or autism like symptoms. This mean more people “got autism” from not getting the vaccine and contracting measles then got it from the measles vaccine
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Measles vaccination reduced child mortality by almost half in some countries. It turns out that getting a disease that erases your immune system is bad for kids.
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/37482223/
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"Alms for an ex leper..."Leprosy? That's just proof that the second coming is nigh!
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I don't fully understand the figures in the abstract, but they seem to be arguing that the vaccination has an effect regardless of subsequent measles infection...
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Think the insurance is paying for them now??
What we need is specific documentation of what lead to the exemption. Look at what happens when docs want some expensive test or procedure--they have to show the insurance company why they think that's the best route. Put something like that on vaccine exemptions.
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SubWoofer2
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Votes. Money. Power. Gullible people who looked for hope in the wrong place, and would rather keep suffering than admit everything they rely on to shape their view of the world is wrong. Fear.
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Aha! That makes a lot of sense. Measles is bad but 20% hospitalization seems high.
Is there any indication of why measles went from killing 1 in 10,000 to 1 in 1,000?
And humans are terrible at evaluating low probability scenarios. Especially if they don't have scientific training in some field. I've tried getting through by comparing it to other human activities of comparable risk--live without the measles vaccine, or ride a rocket into orbit.
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Yeah, there's something strange going on. It looks rather like the adjuvants in some vaccines seem to have some sort of benefit beyond the vaccine they were used with, but this hasn't been confirmed yet.
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I'm interested in what anyone else thinks on this, but I have guesses.
First is what I suggested before about hospitalization rates: I expect that many mild cases of measles during this outbreak went unreported. The populations most impacted already are known for (and in some cases have built their identity around) distrust of mainstream medical advice and sometimes "the establishment" in general.
So I could be wrong, but my suspicion is that there were significantly more cases than those officially reported. Especially for milder cases, where it's easier to believe there's no need to report anything and in fact this "proves" an anti-vax belief that measles isn't a real threat.
Also, a group of between 500 and 1000 known cases (in this outbreak) is enough to start drawing some conclusions, but really isn't enough to be confident if you're trying to sus out whether a disease is killing 1/500 or 1/20,000 people (or somewhere in between, much more likely). At this level, what you see in terms of number of deaths could just be sampling weirdness. (Albeit tragic and almost certainly preventable, too.)
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One possibility is that, before the vaccine, the most susceptible people died before reproducing. In contrast, with the vaccine, more susceptible people survived long enough to have children, and those children, being also more susceptible, have a higher risk of dying if not vaccinated.
People tend to forget that both hosts and pathogens undergo evolutionary changes. Humans have to ability to alter the environment in useful ways, but stupidity can also result in less useful alterations in the effective environment that individuals experience.
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This study is an example. Child mortality was reduced by half after measles vaccination mostly due to a reduction in diarrhea and other deaths.
https://academic.oup.com/ije/article-abstract/32/1/106/642823?redirectedFrom=fulltext
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Yep it fucking sucks to be us.
We saw it coming, warned them, and are stuck on this fucking burning ship of damned fools....
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Please link a citation to that - it's a bold claim and i didn't find it on a short search.
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I sincerely nominate RFK Jr. to be patient zero for both of these and any other reemergent horrid diseases.
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In other words, a Kennedy
(I know that will upset some people but the records bear it out, at least for the males)
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What would likely happen is that the quack would lose their ability to accept insurance for anything, not just for that particular vax. It's simpler for the insurance company to just drop them from the approved vendor list.
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chaos215bar2
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Do you have a link?
Not because I don't believe you, but because I want to bask in the sheer irony.
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