Analysis of Texas measles outbreak shows just how dangerous virus is

deadermeat

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More than 500 have died in a Measles outbreak in Bangladesh because of incompetence (corruption?) the previous government failed to order the vaccines causing a huge wave of infections. The positive note there is that the new government implemented a huge vaccination program, but I don't see the same happening in the US (at least not at a national level) in response to these outbreaks.
 
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Fatesrider

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Who pays for these highly-preventable medical bills?
This is US health care, so I presume the patient or patient's family does.

Were I an insurance company, I'd pay for the measles shot, and for any person who had one who gets it. But I'd let those who refused to get it, or whose parents (who would be financially liable for a case where a child got it) refused to have their kid immunized pay the full and complete costs themselves.

No remediation through bankruptcy, either. They are on the hook for failing to get a vaccine if they end up contracting it and needing medical care.

Make those who refuse vaccinations fully responsible for the financial costs, up to and including seizing property to sell at auction.

Being a citizen of, or even a visitor to, this country comes with a civil responsibility to safeguard others from preventable illness. Break that covenant, and pay the fuck up for it.

THEN let's see how long this "it's just a rash" bullshit lasts.

(Oh, and I'd do this for every kind of preventable illness, with the only exceptions being a medically verified test/incident that makes a specific vaccine contraindicated for that individual.)

I have no fucks to give what you want to believe. I do take issue if your beliefs make you hazardous to society. You do have the option to avoid any modern health care, and keep from spreading it (since doing either would create a civil, fiscal liability for you), but if you want to suffer in a cave with no one around, hey, knock yourself out. The smell of your decomposing body will ensure your remains aren't disturbed for a while, too.
 
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This is US health care, so I presume the patient or patient's family does.

Were I an insurance company, I'd pay for the measles shot, and for any person who had one who gets it. But I'd let those who refused to get it, or whose parents (who would be financially liable for a case where a child got it) refused to have their kid immunized pay the full and complete costs themselves.

No remediation through bankruptcy, either. They are on the hook for failing to get a vaccine if they end up contracting it and needing medical care.

Make those who refuse vaccinations fully responsible for the financial costs, up to and including seizing property to sell at auction.

Being a citizen of, or even a visitor to, this country comes with a civil responsibility to safeguard others from preventable illness. Break that covenant, and pay the fuck up for it.

THEN let's see how long this "it's just a rash" bullshit lasts.

(Oh, and I'd do this for every kind of preventable illness, with the only exceptions being a medically verified test/incident that makes a specific vaccine contraindicated for that individual.)

I have no fucks to give what you want to believe. I do take issue if your beliefs make you hazardous to society. You do have the option to avoid any modern health care, and keep from spreading it (since doing either would create a civil, fiscal liability for you), but if you want to suffer in a cave with no one around, hey, knock yourself out. The smell of your decomposing body will ensure your remains aren't disturbed for a while, too.
I felt this rant in my soul. Thank you.
 
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“There is a cult of ignorance in the United States, and there has always been. The strain of anti-intellectualism has been a constant thread winding its way through our political and cultural life, nurtured by the false notion that democracy means that 'my ignorance is just as good as your knowledge.”​

― Isaac Asimov
 
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denemo

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In 2025, the US recorded 2,288 measles cases overall, the highest total since 1991. Not yet six months into 2026, and the country is already close to reaching that number; as of May 28, the US has reported 1,983 confirmed measles cases across 40 jurisdictions.

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kgh

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Back in the days when everyone got measles (including me) a much smaller fraction were hospitalised.
Do you have statistics for that, or just your gut feel? I'm old enough to remember those bleak days also, and my gut feel says that a similar number died. My parents immunized their children as soon as vaccines were available. Fortunately, my younger siblings didn't have to suffer.
 
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Do you have statistics for that, or just your gut feel? I'm old enough to remember those bleak days also, and my gut feel says that a similar number died. My parents immunized their children as soon as vaccines were available. Fortunately, my younger siblings didn't have to suffer.
I once had to work backstage at a Tim Allen standup, back before COVID. And I did actually have to pay attention to the man and the act...50 straight minutes of him carrying on about how great life in the 1950s was.

Note....he was born in 1953. So he was at most 7 years old during that time he was carrying on about how great life was. Which, yea. When you have your parents paying for your room/board and loving you, life is pretty great. But that is called being 7 years old--not living in the 1950s.
 
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And even after being hospitalized these people will still claim the suffering they went through is better than getting vaccinated.

That or many of them are now calling for research into a means where they can be exposed to a weakened form of the virus so that their immune system can learn to fight it safely.

No, I'm not shitting you. These anti-vax dipshits are now calling for research to develop vaccines.
 
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AliSard

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And even after being hospitalized these people will still claim the suffering they went through is better than getting vaccinated.
I doubt it. Willful ignorance is easy when it’s over there. It’s harder when it kicks you or your kids in the face.
 
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This is US health care, so I presume the patient or patient's family does.

Were I an insurance company, I'd pay for the measles shot, and for any person who had one who gets it. But I'd let those who refused to get it, or whose parents (who would be financially liable for a case where a child got it) refused to have their kid immunized pay the full and complete costs themselves.

No remediation through bankruptcy, either. They are on the hook for failing to get a vaccine if they end up contracting it and needing medical care.

Make those who refuse vaccinations fully responsible for the financial costs, up to and including seizing property to sell at auction.

Being a citizen of, or even a visitor to, this country comes with a civil responsibility to safeguard others from preventable illness. Break that covenant, and pay the fuck up for it.

THEN let's see how long this "it's just a rash" bullshit lasts.

(Oh, and I'd do this for every kind of preventable illness, with the only exceptions being a medically verified test/incident that makes a specific vaccine contraindicated for that individual.)

I have no fucks to give what you want to believe. I do take issue if your beliefs make you hazardous to society. You do have the option to avoid any modern health care, and keep from spreading it (since doing either would create a civil, fiscal liability for you), but if you want to suffer in a cave with no one around, hey, knock yourself out. The smell of your decomposing body will ensure your remains aren't disturbed for a while, too.
I know of doctors in the business of giving medical exceptions. If insurance companies ever bring any heat, this kind of business selling exceptions will boom.
 
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I know of doctors in the business of giving medical exceptions. If insurance companies ever bring any heat, this kind of business selling exceptions will boom.
I feel that once there is insurance-company profit involved, such doctors' licenses will last no longer than one cycle of basic statistical analysis by said insurance companies.
 
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