Trump admin seeks medical records of federal workers—for vague reasons
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What is happening under the radar, now that people are bothered fighting this?
Or.. was this supposed to go under the radar because of the war?
(Shock and Awe tactic)
Or.. was this supposed to go under the radar because of the war?
(Shock and Awe tactic)
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If any insurance companies hand over this data, the executives at those companies need to be arrested for each and every HIPPA violations it inherently requires them to do as soon as the Trump regime is removed.
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As Russ Vought, the director or OPM stated:
“We want the bureaucrats to be traumatically affected”
View: https://youtu.be/oBH9TmeJN_M?si=wdA-gahVkHeN3ik6
“We want the bureaucrats to be traumatically affected”
View: https://youtu.be/oBH9TmeJN_M?si=wdA-gahVkHeN3ik6
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Hey, I was >very< upfront with my medical condition with my bosses, my subordinates, and my coworkers who might be impacted once my diagnosis was made. I knew that the months of time I would miss, the permanent disabilities that would most likely result (and did, actually) from my treatment options, even outcomes that would be considered excellent, based on how late my diagnosis was, my need for many follow up appointments, and the fact there was a decent chance that 1) my career could instantly as a result of my diagnosis, and 2) while I trusted my Neurosurgeon and Oncologist, the chances that I would not survive the first surgery were distinctly above zero, enough that I got my affairs in order, and said goodbye to everyone I love or cared about except my wife (she was worried enough.... I wanted her to feel "He's got this" to lessen her stress). That includes my kids, BTW.
I survived, and had to do it all over again when the MRIs said it hadn't been enough. I had to relearn to walk. I missed 7 months rehabbing, and then did another 4 100% WFH on limited duty while my coworkers were 4 of 5 WIO.
After trying to work, I retired instead of being a burden instead of an asset at work. And I passed up a disability retirement to try to keep serving in my Federal Civil Service role, before I admitted to myself I could only perform 40% as effectively as I had before my unwanted tenant.
I'd rather share my medical info with you fine folks than allow OPM full access to my medical records without a clear, elucidable, and logical rational for them to have them. Talking with people in general, I can help educate them about symptoms that don't seem to mean anything separately, but could have ended up telling me >years earlier< and saved me from my disabilities, so they don't ignore them until less than two years before it would have killed me.
So it sounds like I'll need to be in that group sueing my Medical Insurance Company, Blue Cross/Blue Shield, CVS, my pharmacy, and OPM if this actually happens.
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Beth, I’m so sorry you had to write about yet another outrageous health care issue. But thank you.
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It's not 100M of us. It's probably a lot closer to 30-35M, including employees, retirees, and dependants. Still, that's a heck of a lot of folks to be pissing off in an election year.
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I can’t help but suspect that this might double as a trial run, before they start asking for medical records of people outside the current scope. State employees, private employees … all with the exact same targets.
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This administration is really interested in private health information, particularly that of autistic people. That isn't a bad sign, right?
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Capture/influence courts/judges, start tons of legal cases - while the law tries to adapt and overcome, the moron keeps pulling more shit, destroying more infrastructure. His goal is to make most agencies that can't be directly controlled weak enough that they won't be able to stand up to him when he makes his coup at the end of his term.
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What possible justification could they have for this request? I didn't actually see their justification, but I can't even imagine one. Have we reached the "we don't even have to try to explain ourselves" stage?
I'd say this is a grotesque HIPAA violation, but that seems obvious.
I'd say this is a grotesque HIPAA violation, but that seems obvious.
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You see them demonstrating the same blind team-following bullshit coming from them as well. You'll hear shit like "well what if Biden did it?" or "you would support it if Hillary did it" and so on.
The fuck I would. You saw it a lot with the Epstein files. The difference between them and "us" is they think this is a team sport and everyone is on one side or the other and will do anything to defend their team whereas "we" say put them all against the wall. We don't want our team to win, we want good, decent people to do the right thing. If that means throwing all of the established leaders into a proverbial trash compactor, go for it, regardless of the letter that comes after their name.
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“Current and former federal employees whose medical records were unlawfully shared to the federal govt by insurance companies” sure sounds like a big ass class of litigants to me. Let’s fucking go lawyers
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If/when the shit really hits the fan, Russ Vought will not come out unscathed. There are around three million federal employees, and though I’m not sure how many he considers bureaucrats, there are a lot of them. And some of them will have an axe to grind with him after being “traumatically affected”. Same goes for many others in this regime.
ETA: Also, that’s rich coming from the director of the OMB and CFPB. What does that make him? Oh, yeah, a fucking bureaucrat. Though he probably is thinking, “Not me! Don’t traumatically affect me! Do it to all those other, less deserving, less human bureaucrats!”
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I really don't see the next two plus years going by peacefully in this country.
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he's inside the white house, pockets open over his nipples twirling them and saying "what ya gunna do bad boy!" South Park comcast style
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If you can think of something immoral, unjustifiable, cruel, heartless, and likely illegal, this administration has either done it or is planning to.
And every day we find out about another part of our country and our lives they’re seeking to desecrate.
So much for Trump voters who were motivated by racism and didn’t think he’d hurt them. Farmers being screwed by tariffs and war related inflation. Those with serious health conditions not getting the products they need because of the chaos at FDA. The list keeps growing.
So much for too much winning. We’re all going to lose.
And every day we find out about another part of our country and our lives they’re seeking to desecrate.
So much for Trump voters who were motivated by racism and didn’t think he’d hurt them. Farmers being screwed by tariffs and war related inflation. Those with serious health conditions not getting the products they need because of the chaos at FDA. The list keeps growing.
So much for too much winning. We’re all going to lose.
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Cool, cool.... can you tell me which military alliance is going to invade DC in order to arrest these assholes? Because that was sort of a prereq for Nuremberg.
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They can have their own tribunal, even.
We could get some cities to start bidding on who gets to host which ones.
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Authoritarianism does not admit the existence of private citizens as such. How can it? It admits no concept of privacy. Broadly speaking, citizens are possessions of the state and have no rights except those which the current regime assigns them. For such states to survive, everything that can be known about citizens must be known, by any means necessary. Any resistance is met with "What are you hiding?" and prompt designation as an enemy of the state. The list of a state's enemies always begins with those who are part of it but haven't proved their absolute loyalty to it.
This is all business as usual, straight out of the fascist wannabe playbook, and completely unremarkable. What's stunning is the utter passivity with which Americans are accepting the wholesale destruction of freedoms they've been crowing about for the last century. For the tree of liberty to be watered with the blood or any other asset of patriots requires patriots. Apparently the U.S. has none.
To put up with injustice is to support it. When complaining about politics of any kind, never forget that all of us always have the leaders and government we deserve: the worst we're willing to tolerate.
P.S. A grimly amusing aside… This particular violation suggests that HIPAA has largely been effective. Otherwise, this information could simply be purchased from Google with no public exposure at all.
This is all business as usual, straight out of the fascist wannabe playbook, and completely unremarkable. What's stunning is the utter passivity with which Americans are accepting the wholesale destruction of freedoms they've been crowing about for the last century. For the tree of liberty to be watered with the blood or any other asset of patriots requires patriots. Apparently the U.S. has none.
To put up with injustice is to support it. When complaining about politics of any kind, never forget that all of us always have the leaders and government we deserve: the worst we're willing to tolerate.
P.S. A grimly amusing aside… This particular violation suggests that HIPAA has largely been effective. Otherwise, this information could simply be purchased from Google with no public exposure at all.
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Our federal government has nothing better to do than look for citizens to harass. We're becoming like Russia everyday.
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I say they can get the records of their own MAGA kin. See whats in that closet.
They're probably frothing at the mouth to give it to that loon bin Vought anyway. Believing whatever spews from his mouth.
They're probably frothing at the mouth to give it to that loon bin Vought anyway. Believing whatever spews from his mouth.
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No way in hell that's legal. Any company, any persons that actually comply with this need to be convicted and imprisoned by a future law-abiding administration.
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No offense, but… Said executives have no such need, and neither do those who determine whether or not they will be arrested. The only need of either group is increased wealth and power. They will do whatever Americans will tolerate, and so far, it appears there's nothing Americans won't tolerate.
The U.S. system of government has broken to the point that nothing within that system is capable of correcting it. Congress in particular resembles a pocket watch repeatedly struck by a hammer. Its intended function is no longer even perceivable, much less operating. This isn't uncommon in systems analysis: mechanisms which oscillate out of control and can't be restored to function without external intervention. It's clear at this point that nothing in U.S. law can stop its corruption. Only its citizens are capable of that, and they appear asleep at the wheel – or rather, their screens.
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I've found that most "Tree of Liberty" folks actually want privilege for themselves, not liberty for all. Which is why they're mostly fine with Trump.
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The terrorists who believe in deregulation also are the most likely to exploit free data given to them by a useful idiot regime.
Lack of specifity? They're just milking the data to feed to AI farms so their use case becomes obfuscated and their data governance becomes unenforceable before the law catches up.
Every single appointee in this should be tried under future data governance amd privacy laws which should be set retroactively to 2016.
Lack of specifity? They're just milking the data to feed to AI farms so their use case becomes obfuscated and their data governance becomes unenforceable before the law catches up.
Every single appointee in this should be tried under future data governance amd privacy laws which should be set retroactively to 2016.
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Haven't read the article yet so just reacting to the headline but...He can't have any medical records until we have his, unredacted and real, going back 25 years. Oh, and his f'ing taxes, too. And release the f'ing Epstein files, in total, and unredacted while we're at it...
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FTFYThis is increasingly a bad time to, as a hypothetical, be a trans personwho works for the federal government, it seems
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But don't bother with updating and reopening it. Keep it in its current state, open as a tourist attraction. Let the tourists see the one prisoner.
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Oh, a lot more than just one. (Trump was just the cat's paw, don't settle for letting him be the fall guy.
Other cells on the same block should include Vought, Miller, Leavit, Bondi, Hegseth, Blanche, Noem, Bovino, Thomas, Alito, Roberts, Vance, Musk, Thiel, ...
I'd bet there's enough fully deserving conspirators to fill the place again. (No need to worry about the water supply problem - they'll receive the same standards concerning prisoner rights, health care and safety as they enforced so enthusiastically.)
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