Microsoft pushes full-screen ads for Copilot+ PCs on Windows 10 users

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Microsoft really knows how to be obnoxious don't they. A bunch of people I know have long stated that they had no intention of upgrading to W11 and that they will be full time on Linux afterward W10 is EOL'd. I won't hold my breath on those commitments, but it does show how the way these once diehard PC gamers are no longer blind to user antagonistic behaviors from MS.
 
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Does Microsoft think that ending up with tens of millions of unpatched zombie PCs is going to be a good look? No one remember how long it took for XP to finally be laid to rest?

Not only that, but PCs that shipped with Windows 10 and can't run Windows 11 are far more capable of meeting the average user's needs in 2025 than PCs that shipped with Windows XP were in 2014.
 
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I'll check next week for the hack to disable it.

Installing Linux is the best option to avoid Microsoft crap if you can get by without Windows. The LTSC release is the best option if you can't, but that's unfortunately not available to the general public in the US.
 
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Microsoft really knows how to be obnoxious don't they. A bunch of people I know have long stated that they had no intention of upgrading to W11 and that they will be full time on Linux afterward W10 is EOL'd. I won't hold my breath on those commitments, but it does show how the way these once diehard PC gamers are no longer blind to user antagonistic behaviors from MS.
If they really mean it about switching to Linux, why wait? I suspect they’re bluffing.
 
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Welcome, new Linux users! The world is bright on this side of the universe, with no ads and ever-growing gaming support. Check out protondb.com for compatibility of your favorite games.
Was just coming here to say, I'm sick of fighting Windows for control of my own PC. I'm switching to Linux and will gladly accept any amount of inconvenience just to extricate myself from the abuse of Microsoft.

ETA: we should organize this W11 day as a mass switch-to-linux day. A gradual drop can have many explanations, but nothing hurts an exec and sends a clearer message like them waking up to a precious line on their dashboard dropping precipitously
 
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Microsoft really knows how to be obnoxious don't they. A bunch of people I know have long stated that they had no intention of upgrading to W11 and that they will be full time on Linux afterward W10 is EOL'd. I won't hold my breath on those commitments, but it does show how the way these once diehard PC gamers are no longer blind to user antagonistic behaviors from MS.
Someone in one of the Valve threads talked about how Gabe's reaction to Windows 8 and the Windows Store were overblown paranoia about a future that would never come to pass. Meanwhile, Linux gaming is now incredibly robust to the point that the only real pain nowadays is anti-cheat DRM, which says more about publishers than Linux. And that's mostly thanks to Valve putting in the work to make it possible.
 
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My home built computer running Windows 10 is only 3 years old, but Windows 11 requires Secure Boot. And while I believe my motherboard supports that, it needs a uefi software upgrade. That's a serious pain the ass for Windows 11, as I still don't see any real reason I need 11? I just play games and browse the web on that machine 🤷‍♂️
 
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ETA: we should organize this W11 day as a mass switch-to-linux day. A gradual drop can have many explanations, but nothing hurts an exec and sends a clearer message like them waking up to a precious line on their dashboard dropping precipitously
You mean like the mass exodus from Twitter?
 
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As someone who just resurrected an old file server to be my testbed for full time Linux gaming rig……

…I will say it will not be an easy path if your games aren’t on Steam, especially late 90s-early 00s games. I’ve been trying to get this rig to run like my Deck does but it has been an uphill battle almost every step of the way.

Not that I don’t appreciate a challenge, but it’s been a gauntlet the entire time. If only Valve would make SteamOs public the process would be so much easier.

But it’s a battle I’m willing to take to finally get out from under the boot that is Micro$oft.
 
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Does Microsoft think that ending up with tens of millions of unpatched zombie PCs is going to be a good look? No one remember how long it took for XP to finally be laid to rest?
It has to happen someday. Only question is when.

As for this type of ad. People are very hostile to these types of notifications. They want stability, ease of access and good word of mouth when it comes to a product. Microsoft needs to deliver on that if they want to keep their desktop OS pseudomonopoly.

Going to definitely just flash all old laptops and towers lying around the house even the ones not in use to linux mint. No sense having W7 or W10 anymore after October 2025.
 
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Does Microsoft think that ending up with tens of millions of unpatched zombie PCs is going to be a good look? No one remember how long it took for XP to finally be laid to rest?
Yeah, I don't get this either. For me, I have no intention of changing my totally fine laptop and will at some point have to take a decision on whether I make the switch to linux or go through the hoops of getting it to run Windows 11. For most people though, they will just keep running Windows 10 unsupported and I can't blame them. There will eventually be some major security related issue and Microsoft will come out of this once again looking bad.
 
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As someone who just resurrected an old file server to be my testbed for full time Linux gaming rig……

…I will say it will not be an easy path if your games aren’t on Steam, especially late 90s-early 00s games. I’ve been trying to get this rig to run like my Deck does but it has been an uphill battle almost every step of the way.

Not that I don’t appreciate a challenge, but it’s been a gauntlet the entire time. If only Valve would make SteamOs public the process would be so much easier.

But it’s a battle I’m willing to take to finally get out from under the boot that is Micro$oft.
Which ones are giving you issues and for which OS do they not run? Not like I have free time to really game these days but just curious.
 
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The header image is captioned

However it just seems to be the Xbox app or something? There's no mention of 11 or an upgrade

Edit: Okay, apparently it is a screenshot of an ad, however the CMS crops it to this on mobile..
https://cdn.arstechnica.net/wp-content/uploads/2024/11/win10-update-message-1152x648-1732126899.jpeg
Does it crop it to that? What you linked is the front page thumbnail.

IMG_D4553CB19182-1.jpeg
 
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I wish there was the same level of compatibility for many business apps like M365 and Adobe CC Suite on Linux as there is for gaming on Linux. While I recognize that there alternatives to these apps on Linux, for many of us that is simply not an option, as they are required for work. I would ditch my Windows in a heartbeat if I could.
 
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I remember when Windows 10 was supposed to just be continually updated. I got a little sick of dealing with it and switched to Pop_OS. There is definitely a learning curve and some things don't work as well as I would like (fingerprint reader does not work despite being supported in fprintd, resuming from sleep is hit or miss on whether I have to reboot, gaming, etc) but they weren't deal breakers and I don't have to deal with Microsoft's issues.
 
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Was just coming here to say, I'm sick of fighting Windows for control of my own PC. I'm switching to Linux and will gladly accept any amount of inconvenience just to extricate myself from the abuse of Microsoft.

ETA: we should organize this W11 day as a mass switch-to-linux day. A gradual drop can have many explanations, but nothing hurts an exec and sends a clearer message like them waking up to a precious line on their dashboard dropping precipitously

Yes, I'm 100% certainly that in the executive board room at Microsoft they have a stock ticker that goes around the top of the room that displays the real time counts of Windows PC installs. It goes green when the number goes up and goes red when it goes down. The execs will be sitting in the room on the day of Windows 10 EOL waiting for the counter to just keep going up for Windows 11. Boy will they be in for a surprise! (/s)
 
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Of course Microsoft wants to sell upgrades. But is there no way that this can be seen as positive? If security updates are coming to an end, advising users to upgrade well ahead of time is a good thing. Annoying, but also good.
Two main issues:

1. The cutoff appears incredibly arbitrary. It precludes a lot of relatively recent hardware, and unlike previous Windows editions that required beefier hardware, much of the hardware below the cutoff is still fairly powerful.
2. People still cling to that quote about Windows 10 being "the last version of Windows" (which was attributed to some booth dude at some expo who had zero authority), so seeing another version of Windows sounds like flip-flopping on Microsoft's part

Obviously support can't last forever, at some point people have to move on. But the way Microsoft handled it here, they seem to be trying to force a lot of people to throw away working hardware in order to get the new OS, and the flaws in the new OS are all the more damning in light of the hardware snafus.
 
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Does Microsoft think that ending up with tens of millions of unpatched zombie PCs is going to be a good look? No one remember how long it took for XP to finally be laid to rest?
Took for? I still sometimes encounter XP once in a while on stand-alone, embedded, or specialty stuff.
 
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Does Microsoft think that ending up with tens of millions of unpatched zombie PCs is going to be a good look? No one remember how long it took for XP to finally be laid to rest?
Isn't that already perpetually the case?

Nobody cares. Wish they would, but they don't.
 
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Two main issues:

1. The cutoff appears incredibly arbitrary. It precludes a lot of relatively recent hardware, and unlike previous Windows editions that required beefier hardware, much of the hardware below the cutoff is still fairly powerful.
2. People still cling to that quote about Windows 10 being "the last version of Windows" (which was attributed to some booth dude at some expo who had zero authority), so seeing another version of Windows sounds like flip-flopping on Microsoft's part

Obviously support can't last forever, at some point people have to move on. But the way Microsoft handled it here, they seem to be trying to force a lot of people to throw away working hardware in order to get the new OS, and the flaws in the new OS are all the more damning in light of the hardware snafus.
Yep - this also seems immensely wasteful, especially for home users that don't actually NEED most of the "new" hardware features.

Spending lots of money to throw lots of perfectly working electronics in the landfills.
 
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Took for? I still sometimes encounter XP once in a while on stand-alone, embedded, or specialty stuff.
I used to work in a manufacturing facility back in 2018, we had Windows 10, Windows 7, Windows XP, Windows 98, Windows NT 4.0 and DOS all running on various machines. Them's the breaks when you're working with CNCs built decades ago that would cost millions to replace, and outdated OSes are not going to influence that decision.
 
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