CDC estimates 140 million Americans have had COVID, about double case reports

About 37 million infected in omicron wave, and 58% of kids were infected at some point.

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[ZenBeam]

An interesting article from the New York Times on Covid just now exploding in New Zealand. They mostly avoided it up until now, so basically no immunity through having caught it, but people over age 12 are 95% vaccinated. That's reasonably comparable to the 95 percent of people ages 16 and older in the US who had antibodies mentioned in this article.

I'm particularly struck by the difference in the number of cases in New Zealand compared with the max we saw in my state, Michigan, in the most recent wave. New Zealand's largest day reported, three days ago, was over 32,000 cases. We've got just about twice the population of New Zealand, and our maximum case day had just over 20,000 cases. That's about a three-fold per capita difference. Not sure what's causing such a large difference. I thought maybe kids, but a breakdown by age group doesn't really support that. I'm not sure what vaccines they took there, or when, or if they're boosting.

 

[jdale]

An interesting article from the New York Times on Covid just now exploding in New Zealand. They mostly avoided it up until now, so basically no immunity through having caught it, but people over age 12 are 95% vaccinated. That's reasonably comparable to the 95 percent of people ages 16 and older in the US who had antibodies mentioned in this article.

I'm particularly struck by the difference in the number of cases in New Zealand compared with the max we saw in my state, Michigan, in the most recent wave. New Zealand's largest day reported, three days ago, was over 32,000 cases. We've got just about twice the population of New Zealand, and our maximum case day had just over 20,000 cases. That's about a three-fold per capita difference. Not sure what's causing such a large difference. I thought maybe kids, but a breakdown by age group doesn't really support that. I'm not sure what vaccines they took there, or when, or if they're boosting.

Where are you getting that number? The article says:
On Thursday, the country reported 23,194 new cases

And that's consistent with https://www.worldometers.info/coronavir ... w-zealand/

That said, they just opened things up. And omicron has a high chance of infected the vaccinated. So if people were out interacting, it could spread pretty fast until people adjust their behavior.

 

[ZenBeam]

An interesting article from the New York Times on Covid just now exploding in New Zealand. They mostly avoided it up until now, so basically no immunity through having caught it, but people over age 12 are 95% vaccinated. That's reasonably comparable to the 95 percent of people ages 16 and older in the US who had antibodies mentioned in this article.

I'm particularly struck by the difference in the number of cases in New Zealand compared with the max we saw in my state, Michigan, in the most recent wave. New Zealand's largest day reported, three days ago, was over 32,000 cases. We've got just about twice the population of New Zealand, and our maximum case day had just over 20,000 cases. That's about a three-fold per capita difference. Not sure what's causing such a large difference. I thought maybe kids, but a breakdown by age group doesn't really support that. I'm not sure what vaccines they took there, or when, or if they're boosting.

Where are you getting that number? The article says:
On Thursday, the country reported 23,194 new cases

And that's consistent with https://www.worldometers.info/coronavir ... w-zealand/

That said, they just opened things up. And omicron has a high chance of infected the vaccinated. So if people were out interacting, it could spread pretty fast until people adjust their behavior.

It's the number for Feb. 28. The Michigan number is likewise not the current number, it's from a few weeks ago.

And yeah, they're just opening up, but Michigan is certainly not a bastion of following Covid-safe practices. We're under 60% fully vaxxed. A population that's 95% vaxxed probably isn't completely throwing caution to the wind just because the rules changed.

 

[Hmnhntr]

Sometimes it feels like not ever having Covid is the new virginity.

I'm not even sure how to parse this comment. Like, not catching Covid is a sign of social stunting somehow? And I guess that really depends on what you interpret virginity to mean about someone.

 

[jdale]

An interesting article from the New York Times on Covid just now exploding in New Zealand. They mostly avoided it up until now, so basically no immunity through having caught it, but people over age 12 are 95% vaccinated. That's reasonably comparable to the 95 percent of people ages 16 and older in the US who had antibodies mentioned in this article.

I'm particularly struck by the difference in the number of cases in New Zealand compared with the max we saw in my state, Michigan, in the most recent wave. New Zealand's largest day reported, three days ago, was over 32,000 cases. We've got just about twice the population of New Zealand, and our maximum case day had just over 20,000 cases. That's about a three-fold per capita difference. Not sure what's causing such a large difference. I thought maybe kids, but a breakdown by age group doesn't really support that. I'm not sure what vaccines they took there, or when, or if they're boosting.

Where are you getting that number? The article says:
On Thursday, the country reported 23,194 new cases

And that's consistent with https://www.worldometers.info/coronavir ... w-zealand/

That said, they just opened things up. And omicron has a high chance of infected the vaccinated. So if people were out interacting, it could spread pretty fast until people adjust their behavior.

It's the number for Feb. 28. The Michigan number is likewise not the current number, it's from a few weeks ago.

And yeah, they're just opening up, but Michigan is certainly not a bastion of following Covid-safe practices. We're under 60% fully vaxxed. A population that's 95% vaxxed probably isn't completely throwing caution to the wind just because the rules changed.

Hmmm. On Google, I see a high of 32K on Feb 28 like you say, but Feb 26 is 0 cases. I don't think these daily numbers are very reliable. There's a reason we usually look at 7-day averages. Which is currently 17232.

 

[numerobis]

An interesting article from the New York Times on Covid just now exploding in New Zealand. They mostly avoided it up until now, so basically no immunity through having caught it, but people over age 12 are 95% vaccinated. That's reasonably comparable to the 95 percent of people ages 16 and older in the US who had antibodies mentioned in this article.

I'm particularly struck by the difference in the number of cases in New Zealand compared with the max we saw in my state, Michigan, in the most recent wave. New Zealand's largest day reported, three days ago, was over 32,000 cases. We've got just about twice the population of New Zealand, and our maximum case day had just over 20,000 cases. That's about a three-fold per capita difference. Not sure what's causing such a large difference. I thought maybe kids, but a breakdown by age group doesn't really support that. I'm not sure what vaccines they took there, or when, or if they're boosting.

Where are you getting that number? The article says:
On Thursday, the country reported 23,194 new cases

And that's consistent with https://www.worldometers.info/coronavir ... w-zealand/

That said, they just opened things up. And omicron has a high chance of infected the vaccinated. So if people were out interacting, it could spread pretty fast until people adjust their behavior.

It's the number for Feb. 28. The Michigan number is likewise not the current number, it's from a few weeks ago.

And yeah, they're just opening up, but Michigan is certainly not a bastion of following Covid-safe practices. We're under 60% fully vaxxed. A population that's 95% vaxxed probably isn't completely throwing caution to the wind just because the rules changed.

My kiwi friends have been living normal lives except for not travelling, outside occasional “circuit breaker” lockdowns. There’s no caution to throw to the winds, they were all or nothing.

 

[ZenBeam]

An interesting article from the New York Times on Covid just now exploding in New Zealand. They mostly avoided it up until now, so basically no immunity through having caught it, but people over age 12 are 95% vaccinated. That's reasonably comparable to the 95 percent of people ages 16 and older in the US who had antibodies mentioned in this article.

I'm particularly struck by the difference in the number of cases in New Zealand compared with the max we saw in my state, Michigan, in the most recent wave. New Zealand's largest day reported, three days ago, was over 32,000 cases. We've got just about twice the population of New Zealand, and our maximum case day had just over 20,000 cases. That's about a three-fold per capita difference. Not sure what's causing such a large difference. I thought maybe kids, but a breakdown by age group doesn't really support that. I'm not sure what vaccines they took there, or when, or if they're boosting.

Where are you getting that number? The article says:
On Thursday, the country reported 23,194 new cases

And that's consistent with https://www.worldometers.info/coronavir ... w-zealand/

That said, they just opened things up. And omicron has a high chance of infected the vaccinated. So if people were out interacting, it could spread pretty fast until people adjust their behavior.

It's the number for Feb. 28. The Michigan number is likewise not the current number, it's from a few weeks ago.

And yeah, they're just opening up, but Michigan is certainly not a bastion of following Covid-safe practices. We're under 60% fully vaxxed. A population that's 95% vaxxed probably isn't completely throwing caution to the wind just because the rules changed.

Hmmm. On Google, I see a high of 32K on Feb 28 like you say, but Feb 26 is 0 cases. I don't think these daily numbers are very reliable. There's a reason we usually look at 7-day averages. Which is currently 17232.

That's about the same, then, as Michigan's highest 7-day average, around 17,500 (by eyeball from the chart here). With half the population, that's still about double the per-capita rate.