Police arrest Mesa County clerk who promoted Trump’s false election claims

Tina Peters was filmed kicking leg toward officer and likely faces charges.

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[Alfonse]

Hell, I remember when it was considered a joke that Dan Tomatoe Quayle was rumored to want to run in 1996, and then W ran in 2000. And I was abroad the summer of 1999 and I remember a relative asking about "some guy they call Dubya" and we laughed and assured them that it would never happen.

Hah!

Remember thinking "No way we'll ever get as president as dumb as Dan Quayle?"

Quayle being stupid is about as correct as Al Gore inventing the Internet. These were narratives created by the various sides to smear a candidate.

Now sure, Quayle definitely wasn't a good speaker and could say things that were sometimes incoherent. He was a gaff machine. But that alone doesn't make him stupid.

So Quayle standing up to help preserve American democracy isn't really a surprise.

 

[Alfonse]

Can someone explain to outside person why americans are so violent towards police?

Because police are almost universally violent towards the public. Especially if you're non-white.

Sure, a police officer standing at a corner seems reasonable enough if you engage them in conversation. But if they ask to frisk you for no reason and you don't move fast enough to comply, they are very likely to use force on you.

Increased militarization of police forces along with training practically designed to escalate situations leads to a general animosity from police towards the people they "serve". Also, there are structural incentives to create animus. Police officers get promotions based on job performance, which means "more arrests". So officers are encouraged to frequently engage with the public, "discover" crimes (like resisting arrest, planting contraband during vehicle searches), and then arrest them to boost their numbers. On top of that, we have police unions that institutionally protect the worst of the lot.

Oh, and in some jurisdictions, if you have a large sum of cash on you, cops can search you and just take it, claiming that you're a drug dealer. And you can't get it back even if they drop the drug charges (perhaps because there wasn't any or their attempt to "discover" it failed).

Basically, there's no reason to respect police in the USA. They are at best to be avoided and at worst they are an organized crime syndicate which is likely to kill you for no fucking reason.

 

[Tronix]

Cold soup is just a step towards socialism and communism. As the noted intellectual, Barney Gumble, once said, "Go back to Russia!"

The irony in all this is that some of those in power (Republicans especially) will be glad to promote corporate socialism (i.e. bank bailouts) and allow anti-competitive behavior (the merger of mega-corporations) while telling the rest of us that talk of any kind of FDR-like social safety-net is just plain "anti-American communism" and promote capitalism as long as it conveniently pads the pockets of their corporate donors.

 

[SixDegrees]

Can someone explain to outside person why americans are so violent towards police?
This seems to be universal american trait across all social classes from "street types" to upper class persons like that lady in article.
I doubt any police officer in any country has ever changed his/her mind about arresting if suspect kicked police officer.

You need to get out more. Violence towards police - even when justified, given poor police treatment of non-whites - is extremely rare. The norm is passivity, which will usually get you a whole lot farther along then incurring additional charges such as assault and resisting arrest.

Have you not realized that what makes the news is the aberrant behavior, and not the normal behavior. "Man gets pulled over for speeding, accepts ticket" isn't particularly newsworthy. And you hear about that one person on a flight of a couple hundred who goes off on staff and causes a plane diversion - and the remaining scores of passengers go unmentioned.

 

[Deleted member 92645]

I see that she was accorded the courtesy of not being charged with resisting arrest; and was denied the time honored repeated tasing to the chant of "stop resisting! stop resisting!". Shocked, I tell you.

She was wearing the magical white skin of protection against police brutality

Edit : well you know you're late to the thread when someone (Uxorious) made basically the same comment many pages ago.

 

[Kesh]

Can someone explain to outside person why americans are so violent towards police?
This seems to be universal american trait across all social classes from "street types" to upper class persons like that lady in article.
I doubt any police officer in any country has ever changed his/her mind about arresting if suspect kicked police officer.

You only hear about the people who violently resist arrest, not the folks who calmly cooperated.

 

[darwinosx]

Again Ars, stick to science and tech.

Found the Nazi.

Even Are readers can be trump idiots apparently. Somehow they haven't figured out yet that he is a criminal, always has been, but being president gave him the opportunity to be a traitor. Most of us took about 2 seconds to figure this out. They have had years.

 

[darwinosx]

I see that she was accorded the courtesy of not being charged with resisting arrest; and was denied the time honored repeated tasing to the chant of "stop resisting! stop resisting!". Shocked, I tell you.

She was wearing the magical white skin of protection against police brutality

That's for sure. She also has a very sketchy and criminal history like fraud. All the best people...

 

[darwinosx]

Can someone explain to outside person why americans are so violent towards police?
This seems to be universal american trait across all social classes from "street types" to upper class persons like that lady in article.
I doubt any police officer in any country has ever changed his/her mind about arresting if suspect kicked police officer.

The police in the U.S are violent and racist and exist to protect the power structure and themselves and their inflated salaries and benefits. This "lady" is far from "upper class" by the way.

 

[ColdWetDog]

The brief detainment shows Peters being handcuffed and repeatedly shouting, "Let go of me... give me my key to my car!" The video shows her kicking her leg backward at one of the arresting officers while trying to escape their grasp. "Do not kick–you understand?" an officer told Peters.

If she wasn't white imagine what might have happened to her, when behaving like that with the cops. I hope she's at least also getting charged with resisting arrest and assaulting a police officer, both of which would for sure happen if she wasn't white.

Yep. Charged with both. The police are still white gloving (pun intended) her because they really don't want to be in the middle of what is turning out to be a major shitstorm. Can't hardly blame them.

 

[co-lee]

I'm from Colorado. Tina's a personal hero to me, because she will do the right thing to provide the voters transparency no matter the cost. She's a gold star parent and a cancer survivor, and she's not scared of anything the State can do to her. Life has already done more to her than they ever could. These attempts by the fascists, nazis, and communists in our state government to intimidate us are going nowhere. I hope she runs for Governor or Secretary of State.

Hello, Mr. Linux treasonous piece of shit. Your hero wants to make it so she-or any Republican won't have to 'run' for anything. Emperor Trump would appoint all such offices.

the one thing Mr Linux said that I agree with is that he hopes Peters runs for Gov or SoS.
That would actually be great: she's guaranteed to lose, likely to be in jail before the election, reminds everyone yet again that Rs are the party of criminals, and would give us endless opportunities to shit on her and make fun of all of them.
Go for it!

 

[ibad]

Can anyone imagine what it would have been like if the Jan 6 insurrectionists and various corrupt election-stealing morons like this woman were minorities and not conservative? Ten times as many would have died and a LOT of them would be in jail for sedition and other felonies.

I see the pace and extent of justice for Trump and his ghouls and it is mind-bogglingly corrupt and utterly insufficient. Still can't get the image of that rioter Karen being gallantly assisted down the steps of the Capitol by a policeman after the whole thing. Can you imagine that scene if she was non-white or left-wing?

The right likes to complain about "cancellation" and oppression, but I think they just feel the reduction of their privilege as "oppression"... and they cannot tolerate that loss of status. The country is supposed to revolve around them! It just does a bit less and they are losing it.

This woman and her ilk need to end up in jail, otherwise America is a Banana Republic with no more rule-of-law. Let's also remember, McCarthyism and the restriction of public discourse and pluralism by the Right up till the early 90s was the original "Cancel Culture"... It included wholesale slander and reputational and professional destruction of people. But it's unconstitutional and unacceptable when it affects "real Americans"...rather than those dangerous minorities that have to be kept in their place. Forget "cancellation"... if you're a conservative, white "patriot" then apparently you should even be able to get away with fraud and treason, why would you ever tolerate your "right" to force your expressions on other people's broadcast platforms or retail outlets to be curtailed?

 

[DalexPHL]

So how long before she is somehow tied to Jewish space lasers....via the bagel shop!

Obviously: without a good Schmear the Lasers won't focus!

 

[aerogems]

It's been a few pages, so it seems worth reminding everyone. This woman decided she was going to prevent election fraud by... committing election fraud. Then, in a classic example of why Trumptards are being booted off social media, she decided that the rules didn't apply to her and recorded a court proceeding. Later, when the cops came to execute a search warrant, she throws a tantrum that would embarrass a toddler.

I have no idea how it is these people rationalize this in their minds.

 

[co-lee]

"Her real “crime” was making full clone backups of the voting machine computers, before an “update” was installed by the voting machine company...

I know we shouldn't judge by people's looks, but do you really believe she has the knowhow to make a "full clone backup?"

She does have the dead eyes thing down.
Part of what she's in trouble for is bringing outsiders in to do the cloning. She disabled the security cameras that watched the election equipment, brought in people who hadn't been cleared or gotten background checks, did something to the machines described as a "full backup", took the copies away and gave them to someone else. All in the interests of "election security and preventing fraud" ...

 

[Rauth85]

Imagine going to jail for Trump.

Dude is hanging out on some golf course ️ and his flunkies are in jail fighting for his obvious lies…

I know! He's famous for throwing people under the bus once they're no longer useful to him. Does everyone think they won't be the one?

I learned that new posters can only post once a day until they reach 10 posts.

So, even if we were to reply to them, they can't until tomorrow.


Oh ffs, they weren't going to reply either way lol.

I know the mods say it isn't happening, but that's why dormant accounts suddenly becoming active is suspicious -- hijacking an old account lets you dodge the new poster limitation.

a LOT of those on slashdot.

 

[KGFish]

The brainwashing begun in the early eighties continues unabated.

It really accelerated in the 90s with Newt Gingrich.

It started well before then. The American Medical Association produced an LP in 1961 attacking the proposed Medicare program. It claimed that Norman Thomas, a six-time candidate for president and member of the Socialist Party, said the following, "under the name of liberalism the American people will adopt every fragment of the socialist program.”

The title of this LP was "Ronald Reagan Speaks Out Against Socialized Medicine"

This didn't happen overnight. Liberals have been seen as the underhanded and ruthless enemy for a long time.

I mean.... if we want to really see where this bullshit started, it was there pretty much from the beginning. Fill up a new place because your current home really just didn't like how much of a religious nutter you were? Check. Exterminate the locals because they're just savages anyway? Check. Import foreigners and treat them like property because it's easier to be rich that way? Check. Codify into law that some people really are not worthy to participate in society? Check. Tell origin stories about how it was rugged white men who built the country with their own boot straps to become filthy rich (or at least richer than anyone within 20 miles)? Check.

But, KGFish, what about all this stuff about Liberty and Justice for all! A government for the people, by the people!

Listen, grasshopper. That "for all"? "For the people"? "By the people"? They just meant "for all who are male, white, and Christian" and "for the people who look and talk like us".

What's happening right now is exactly what used to happen right from the start. There were occasional pockets of moving towards doing the right thing, but at this point, I suspect that it may have just been that all the white men were so much richer than everyone else that they really just didn't care all that much that others were going to give full participation rights.

 

[bobatechnica]

Wow, US politics has become such a shitshow...

Yes - the UK (England part) has taken the Trump playbook and added more lies and partying.

Funny how dumb right wing politics has become.

 

[Maduro]

Dumb people are not so good at committing crimes. Do they even know when they are committing a crime?

 

[Davefromoregon]

Did the police try holding her down with a knee on her neck for 9 minutes?

 

[theSeb]

Cold soup is just a step towards socialism and communism. As the noted intellectual, Barney Gumble, once said, "Go back to Russia!"

The irony in all this is that some of those in power (Republicans especially) will be glad to promote corporate socialism (i.e. bank bailouts) and allow anti-competitive behavior (the merger of mega-corporations) while telling the rest of us that talk of any kind of FDR-like social safety-net is just plain "anti-American communism" and promote capitalism as long as it conveniently pads the pockets of their corporate donors.

Well, exactly. It's a pretty good gig if you can get it and have no morals, or empathy towards your fellow people. Convincing the voters to vote against their own best interests (because it's against their freedom / socialist / communist / liberal / insert boogeymen here) and making them believe that they are just temporarily inconvenienced and embarrassed millionaires was a brilliant tactic, if we look at it from an amoral point of view.

 

[theSeb]

The brainwashing begun in the early eighties continues unabated.

It really accelerated in the 90s with Newt Gingrich.

It started well before then. The American Medical Association produced an LP in 1961 attacking the proposed Medicare program. It claimed that Norman Thomas, a six-time candidate for president and member of the Socialist Party, said the following, "under the name of liberalism the American people will adopt every fragment of the socialist program.”

The title of this LP was "Ronald Reagan Speaks Out Against Socialized Medicine"

This didn't happen overnight. Liberals have been seen as the underhanded and ruthless enemy for a long time.

I mean.... if we want to really see where this bullshit started, it was there pretty much from the beginning. Fill up a new place because your current home really just didn't like how much of a religious nutter you were? Check. Exterminate the locals because they're just savages anyway? Check. Import foreigners and treat them like property because it's easier to be rich that way? Check. Codify into law that some people really are not worthy to participate in society? Check. Tell origin stories about how it was rugged white men who built the country with their own boot straps to become filthy rich (or at least richer than anyone within 20 miles)? Check.

But, KGFish, what about all this stuff about Liberty and Justice for all! A government for the people, by the people!

Listen, grasshopper. That "for all"? "For the people"? "By the people"? They just meant "for all who are male, white, and Christian" and "for the people who look and talk like us".

What's happening right now is exactly what used to happen right from the start. There were occasional pockets of moving towards doing the right thing, but at this point, I suspect that it may have just been that all the white men were so much richer than everyone else that they really just didn't care all that much that others were going to give full participation rights.

Indeed, but you forgot about the "land owning" bit. They did't care about the "people". They cared about "people like us" and what was really upsetting is having to pay taxes without representation, thus making them lower than any old person in merry old Britannia.

 

[watermeloncup]

Did the police try holding her down with a knee on her neck for 9 minutes?

I'd prefer that the police don't use excessive force on anyone, but since that's not happening I wish they applied it to these right wing fucks occasionally.

 

[ColdWetDog]

Tronix[/url]"]I wonder if she accused them also of being part of the "gazpacho" as they took her away.
No, they just have bagels at that restaurant.

 

[CraigJ ✅]

Can someone explain to outside person why americans are so violent towards police?
This seems to be universal american trait across all social classes from "street types" to upper class persons like that lady in article.
I doubt any police officer in any country has ever changed his/her mind about arresting if suspect kicked police officer.

Do you know what a Karen is?

 

[Snarky Robot]

I'm pretty sure resisting arrest and assaulting a police officer are against the law.

Not to defend her in any possible way with regards to her conspiracy nonsense or recording illegally, but the standards for “resisting arrest” are so flexible (and low) that they’re often abusive. I don’t think it’s impossible to actually have resisting arrest, but flailing/kicking/etc without any actual harm is what helps justify use of force in situations that do not need it.

I’ve seen people charged with “resisting arrest” for flexing and pulling away from officers. I’ve seen it for simply dropping their weight because they don’t want to be arrested. Nobody harmed, just making the lives of officers a little harder.

And I’ve seen people tazed for those things. And then the tazing used as proof that force was needed to subdue them.

We should all want a little higher standard to want a charge of resisting arrest. If you’ve never been forcibly tackled and had your arms forced behind you, it’s not a pleasant thing. There’s natural fight or flight and it’s hard to contain in the heat of the moment when someone starts grabbing you.

Nothing excuses her overall choices in life, but something that de minimus should not be treated a serious threat or criminal action.

 

[Asvarduil]

So how long before she is somehow tied to Jewish space lasers....via the bagel shop!

Obviously: without a good Schmear the Lasers won't focus!

Science question. Does clarified butter focus the JSLs better, or is normal butter good enough?

 

[jazzylarry]

Man, the dumbest of criminals know not to fight officers, then comes along Tina Peters.

Ah, but she's NOT a criminal, she's a (failed) revolutionary!!! And you know what failed revolutionaries are? Traitors.

 

[SixDegrees]

I'm pretty sure resisting arrest and assaulting a police officer are against the law.

Not to defend her in any possible way with regards to her conspiracy nonsense or recording illegally, but the standards for “resisting arrest” are so flexible (and low) that they’re often abusive. I don’t think it’s impossible to actually have resisting arrest, but flailing/kicking/etc without any actual harm is what helps justify use of force in situations that do not need it.

I’ve seen people charged with “resisting arrest” for flexing and pulling away from officers. I’ve seen it for simply dropping their weight because they don’t want to be arrested. Nobody harmed, just making the lives of officers a little harder.

And I’ve seen people tazed for those things. And then the tazing used as proof that force was needed to subdue them.

We should all want a little higher standard to want a charge of resisting arrest. If you’ve never been forcibly tackled and had your arms forced behind you, it’s not a pleasant thing. There’s natural fight or flight and it’s hard to contain in the heat of the moment when someone starts grabbing you.

Nothing excuses her overall choices in life, but something that de minimus should not be treated a serious threat or criminal action.

In this case, the police didn't treat it as a serious threat. But resist she did, and I don't think you'd find a jury anywhere that would disagree after seeing the video.

 

[Hmnhntr]

"Dad, what were Trump supporters like?"

"Well, just to give you an example, a county clerk under investigation for tampering with the security of voting machines after the 2020 elections attempted to illegally videotape the trial of one of her accomplices on an iPad, lied to the court about it, and resisted arrest when the judge sent deputies to confiscate the tablet."

Sadly, my children already know a few Trump supporters in our extended family. The one silver-lining of the pandemic has been their exclusion from our holiday gatherings.

Indeed.

The red hat retards I’m related to live in…MISSOURI!

Land of Josh Hawley, poster boy for shit-weasels everywhere.

Their loss. Cost my sister $1M and her chance at early retirement. It was a surprise birthday gift.

Literally on the call with her, and she starts in on how her King, Donald The Worst, was robbed. When I pressed her on Jan 6th, she said she wasn’t there. More pressure revealed folks from her church were.

Erase, erase, erase.

Her loss, numerous charities gain.

DOH!

Ah, Missouri. Half of my family lives there, still in the town they were born and grew up in, yet constantly complain about being "stuck" in. The best thing I can say about my times in Missouri is that it makes me happy I live in Texas.

 

[Hmnhntr]

I'm pretty sure resisting arrest and assaulting a police officer are against the law.

Not to defend her in any possible way with regards to her conspiracy nonsense or recording illegally, but the standards for “resisting arrest” are so flexible (and low) that they’re often abusive. I don’t think it’s impossible to actually have resisting arrest, but flailing/kicking/etc without any actual harm is what helps justify use of force in situations that do not need it.

I’ve seen people charged with “resisting arrest” for flexing and pulling away from officers. I’ve seen it for simply dropping their weight because they don’t want to be arrested. Nobody harmed, just making the lives of officers a little harder.

And I’ve seen people tazed for those things. And then the tazing used as proof that force was needed to subdue them.

We should all want a little higher standard to want a charge of resisting arrest. If you’ve never been forcibly tackled and had your arms forced behind you, it’s not a pleasant thing. There’s natural fight or flight and it’s hard to contain in the heat of the moment when someone starts grabbing you.

Nothing excuses her overall choices in life, but something that de minimus should not be treated a serious threat or criminal action.

Couldn't agree more. Even if the person being arrested is totally guilty, the fact that natural human response to being attacked can increase your charges and resulting sentence is pretty depraved. There are few people on this planet who would not resist when being grabbed, shouted at, and shackled. Calling it a crime is intentionally and offensively ignorant of human nature.

 

[SixDegrees]

I wonder if she accused them also of being part of the "gazpacho" as they took her away.
No, they just have bagels at that restaurant.

But what about all those black-turtlenecked antipastos?

 

[jazzylarry]

I'm pretty sure resisting arrest and assaulting a police officer are against the law.

Not to defend her in any possible way with regards to her conspiracy nonsense or recording illegally, but the standards for “resisting arrest” are so flexible (and low) that they’re often abusive. I don’t think it’s impossible to actually have resisting arrest, but flailing/kicking/etc without any actual harm is what helps justify use of force in situations that do not need it.

I’ve seen people charged with “resisting arrest” for flexing and pulling away from officers. I’ve seen it for simply dropping their weight because they don’t want to be arrested. Nobody harmed, just making the lives of officers a little harder.

And I’ve seen people tazed for those things. And then the tazing used as proof that force was needed to subdue them.

We should all want a little higher standard to want a charge of resisting arrest. If you’ve never been forcibly tackled and had your arms forced behind you, it’s not a pleasant thing. There’s natural fight or flight and it’s hard to contain in the heat of the moment when someone starts grabbing you.

Nothing excuses her overall choices in life, but something that de minimus should not be treated a serious threat or criminal action.

I think the problem here is that if she instead had been a black man, tasers would have likely been used, or worse. Think Elijah McClain as just one example of this difference in response, and he did not kick and was no bigger than Tina.

 

[Sheep Disorder]

voting machine computers

I realize that you're totally ignorant, but people mostly vote by mail in Colorado. The voting machines are there to make sure everyone who wants to vote and didn't register for a mail-in ballot can do so. Colorado has same-day voter registration. 94% of ballots cast in Colorado in 2020 were mail-in ballots.

Biden won the election in CO by 14%, more than 450,000 votes.

It sounds like only completely rock-stupid idiots would conceive of a conspiracy existing to affect this particular election via voting machine computers.

The voting machine issue stems from human error in Macomb County, MI. According to MSNBC TV (cannot find any links), the tabulating machines were not correctly configured due to late changes in the ballot forms. They quickly found that results unexpected gave Biden a win in a very Red area, they fixed it and verified it with a hand count. This appears to be the basis for the letters to get those voting machines.

 

[terrydactyl]

Can someone explain to outside person why americans are so violent towards police?
This seems to be universal american trait across all social classes from "street types" to upper class persons like that lady in article.
I doubt any police officer in any country has ever changed his/her mind about arresting if suspect kicked police officer.

The plural of anecdote is not data.

 

[ColdWetDog]

I'm from Colorado. Tina's a personal hero to me, because she will do the right thing to provide the voters transparency no matter the cost. She's a gold star parent and a cancer survivor, and she's not scared of anything the State can do to her. Life has already done more to her than they ever could. These attempts by the fascists, nazis, and communists in our state government to intimidate us are going nowhere. I hope she runs for Governor or Secretary of State.

Hello, Mr. Linux treasonous piece of shit. Your hero wants to make it so she-or any Republican won't have to 'run' for anything. Emperor Trump would appoint all such offices.

the one thing Mr Linux said that I agree with is that he hopes Peters runs for Gov or SoS.
That would actually be great: she's guaranteed to lose, likely to be in jail before the election, reminds everyone yet again that Rs are the party of criminals, and would give us endless opportunities to shit on her and make fun of all of them.
Go for it!

She would never make Governor (of Colorado, Kansas maybe). Remember the current Colorado Governor is a gay white male.... She would be a shoe-in for the 3rd Congressional District - however that is currently inhabited (in a troglodyte sense) by batshit insane R wingnut Lauren Boebert (yeah, a NY Post link...). Bobo makes Peters look positively normal.

But I'm sure Peters has a safe career in some form in the grifter take all universe that is the current Republican party.

 

[Z1ggy]

Always willing to hand this woman another shovel so she can keep digging.

If you were actually decent you would hand her a spoon so that she would not dig so deep and so fast!*


*Besides, she *obviously* does not need any assistance with her criminal activity since she is doing so well on her own. It sure is odd how all of the election fraud discovered thus far has been done by idiot tRump and his moronic supporters.

*Well, actually*
Out of the whopping 4 fraudulent ballots cast in Georgia this last election, one of them was a Democrat wife casting a ballot for her recently deceased Republican husband - for Trump.

*Well ACKSHUALLY*
https://www.11alive.com/article/news/po ... 838e5b02a8

Mrs. James E. Blalock Jr, was alive and well.

Newton County officials confirmed that Agnes Blalock voted using her married name, a common way to register when Mrs. Blalock first started voting in the 1940s.

“Her voter registration was signed as Mrs. James E. Blalock, Jr. and that is exactly how she signed her name when she voted in the Nov. 3 general election,” officials said.

EDIT: had to fix my actually.

 

[daveishereagain]

"Dad, what were Trump supporters like?"

"Well, just to give you an example, a county clerk under investigation for tampering with the security of voting machines after the 2020 elections attempted to illegally videotape the trial of one of her accomplices on an iPad, lied to the court about it, and resisted arrest when the judge sent deputies to confiscate the tablet."

I hope Trump supporters vanish so much my daughter has to ask me what Trump supporters were like... Not super optimistic though.

Well they're doing a good job killing themselves with covid and covid "cures" so we can only hope

About half my family are Trump supporters to some extent or other. Relationships are... strained. But I don't wish them dead. Much prefer a change of heart. Wish I could talk to them more, actually, because I think some could change. Then again, I thought they'd turn in the aftermath of the failed Jan 6 coup, but they really didn't. I... feel a deep well of grief about this. People I love are totalitarian assholes. It just hurts.

I know exactly how you feel. My own detachment from a family member dates back to the late 90's and W was the final brick in the wall. I vowed I wouldn't give him a chance to break my heart again. I can't imagine how far around the bend he must be now. I had to have the strength to make a solid break and not look back. It doesn't hurt anymore.

 

[luckof13]

voting machine computers

I realize that you're totally ignorant, but people mostly vote by mail in Colorado. The voting machines are there to make sure everyone who wants to vote and didn't register for a mail-in ballot can do so. Colorado has same-day voter registration. 94% of ballots cast in Colorado in 2020 were mail-in ballots.

Biden won the election in CO by 14%, more than 450,000 votes.

It sounds like only completely rock-stupid idiots would conceive of a conspiracy existing to affect this particular election via voting machine computers.

The voting machine issue stems from human error in Macomb County, MI. According to MSNBC TV (cannot find any links), the tabulating machines were not correctly configured due to late changes in the ballot forms. They quickly found that results unexpected gave Biden a win in a very Red area, they fixed it and verified it with a hand count. This appears to be the basis for the letters to get those voting machines.

It was actually Antrim County, in the upper lower peninsula, that had that issue. Macomb is in Metro Detroit. The error was in reporting the unofficial results on the county's website. The actual tabulator machines counted the votes correctly. Source: https://www.michigan.gov/sos/0,4670,7-1 ... --,00.html