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Early review: Mass Effect: Andromeda is Dragon Age: Inquisition in space
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FighterforJC: You really aren't going to win any friends, or change any minds, with your line of "anti-SJW" bullshit. Go. Away.
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no, it's not a matter of should but is. Anyone can and should be allowed to play however they want, hence me applauding bioware for giving players the choice.
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Some girls play differently than some boys with the same toys. That's a far cry from all girls play differently.
Here, since it looks like you're new to the world and still believe everything your elders told you (which, as far as I can tell, are your parents, your pastor, and your bible study leaders), I'm gonna let you in on a secret.
Promise not to tell anyone, ok? It's a secret, after all.
Here it is.
Equality is about giving everyone the same opportunity.
Like I said, don't tell anyone, ok?
And once you've thought about it for a little while, here's the long version:
Gender equality means that girls get to choose whether they play with trucks or with dolls, that girls get to choose whether they stay at home and raise children or go out and make money, that girls get to choose whether they want to be Sleeping Beauty, harem girl, or Mad Max and that boys have the exact same choices.
That means that society has to give them the opportunity to follow those dreams - to boys as well as girls.
At that point, you'll find out that all of that gender == sex stuff doesn't really matter. All that matters is that people are free to be. Including you.
Toodles! And remember, don't tell anyone - it's a secret.
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Wait wait wait - an article about sex and gender in a videogame is not the place to debate sex and gender roles in entertainment?
Well I'll be.
Edit: And now I feel like a jack-ass for smugly thinking I was posting this in a different article thread. Keeping derp around as reminder of derpiness.
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Hey I was just really grateful that mass effect allows me to play how I want didn't realize people were so anti choice here but I'm done with this topic sheesh
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Um...
This article is about the game Mass Effect: Andromeda and only a certain commenter brought up the gender bullshit.
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It's a perfectly cromulent discussion to have in the context of the thread & its topic—but the discussion has long since escaped that context and really is just most people dogpiling fighterforjc and fighterforjc encouraging the dogpiling (i'd say folks are feeding the troll, but i don't think fighterforjc is trolling since it sounds like he legit believes what he's saying rather than posting purely to provoke a reaction).
Please happily continue discussing gender in Mass Effect and how playing as male or female makes you feel or not feel. But if we're going to talk about the validity of societal gender roles, the Soap Box is the place, not this thread.
Personally, if given an option, I will always play as a female character in any game—I don't feel the avatar represents me, but rather that the avatar is a character I'm playing the game and developing a bond with. And, for whatever reason, I enjoy the gameplay experience more with a female lead. I don't know if it's because I feel more comfortable sharing emotional journeys with a female character or what—but I know I definitely prefer games with female leads.
Please happily continue discussing gender in Mass Effect and how playing as male or female makes you feel or not feel. But if we're going to talk about the validity of societal gender roles, the Soap Box is the place, not this thread.
Personally, if given an option, I will always play as a female character in any game—I don't feel the avatar represents me, but rather that the avatar is a character I'm playing the game and developing a bond with. And, for whatever reason, I enjoy the gameplay experience more with a female lead. I don't know if it's because I feel more comfortable sharing emotional journeys with a female character or what—but I know I definitely prefer games with female leads.
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True, but I continued wrestling that particular pig too long, so I'm sorry for that.
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Umm. Apologies, I got my Mass Effect threads mixed up. Will stop talking about gender issues in this one.
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Interesting. I tend to feel that the avatar does represent me, so I tend to pick male ones. But I'll be honest, I think it's mostly habit. I think that if I buy Andromeda (which is looking more and more likely) i'll go the female avatar route and see how it goes.
(I think the last game I played where I could choose the sex of the character was Skyrim, where it doesn't really matter a lot since it's (mostly) first person and I don't think your character's sex has any bearing on decisions in the game. Been a while though, so I may have that wrong.)
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For me it really depends on the game. RPGs I like to get someone closer to me because I'm making decisions and that character is somewhat of an extension of me.
For action games? I'm truly seeing a character interact with a world and I am someone constantly running behind them, watching it. In those cases, be it Nathan Drake or Lara Croft, I don't care either way because I'm just a spectator. Games like that I can enjoy any type of character.
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*nod*. I've played all the Tomb Raiders and all the Uncharteds and have enjoyed them all. The sex of the character made no difference to my enjoyment and immersion in the game.
Indeed, I'm having huge amounts of fun playing Horizon:Zero Dawn. And one thing I like is that although they've made Aloy attractive, they haven't sexed her up. She's wearing fairly sensible outfits rather than, say, a chainmail bikini that somehow has +1000 hit points.
Plus she jumps up and shouts "RABBIT! YOU HAVE FAILED THIS WOODLAND!" *thwip* (although that part might just be me)
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Real question here. Someone suggested to down vote me. Is that a threat? What are the consequences of getting down voted? Seriously does that like affect my 401k ? Let me know so that in the future I'll make sure to agree with everyone else's opinions
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Heh, a bit offtopic but on-topic too - there's an easter egg of sorts in DA:I. You can find a dead female character wearing "inadequate chain mail" (basically a chain mail bikini), and you can loot her to craft this awesome amulet. At least the specs are more realistic.
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Beyond a certain level of downvotes (I think it's somewhere in the 25 area) then your post gets hidden/collapsed behind a 'this post is hidden; click here to show it' type thingy.
I think your post also has to have mostly downvotes as well for this to happen. If you've got +50/-80 (hence 30 more downvotes than upvotes) then your post stays visible but gains a [CONTROVERSIAL] header.
The rules are a little murky though, so I've probably got some of that wrong.
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I also typically go female and I tend to model the avatar after my wife. She's way more of a bad ass than I am.
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My wife likes to play open-world games, but she's not too keen on the combat aspect (apart from Skyrim - she basically doesn't do guns).
That being said, when I finished the first of the rebooted Tomb Raiders (the one on the island) then I was wandering around and, for the hell of it, detonated a deer with an exploding arrow. My wife quietly reached over, took the controller from my hand, and proceed to depopulate the island's deer, or had a damn good try at it. I had to leave the room.
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The suggestion was to downvote and stop quoting the nonsense. Continuing the latter just ends up derailing the conversation, especially in this case where the same point is being repeated ad nauseum. A single response and mass downvotes should be sufficient to indicate disagreement. If his kink is to watch boy butts while playing games, then let him.
For the original trilogy, playing as FemShep was the superior option IMO due to Jennifer Hale's voice acting.
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You don't have to agree with everyone else's opinions.
But *being homophobic, hateful, bigoted*? That will get you downvotes.
As will complaining about downvotes.
You could even have safely said you like the ability to choose your gender, without having to come across as part of the GamerGate Bros community.
Your own choices, your own comments, your own actions are why you are getting downvoted and why we are telling you to GFYS. Not because you like the fact you can choose a boy or a girl, but because of how you stated it. Because how you stated it makes it fairly clear where you stand on what is an important issue to many of the posters here. Equality.
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Depends on the game for me as well - mostly, this has to do with the quality of the voice acting and animations.
Mass Effect, I was femshep all the way because even playing full on Paragon she looked and sounded like she was about to rip your spine out (for the good of the galaxy, of course) while the male Shepard seemed at times like he was a bit bored by saving the galaxy.
DA:O didn't matter to me, because my own character felt like a bit of a shell - the decisions mattered, I didn't. DA2 I liked the female voice actor again - male Hawke felt to me about as lifeless as male Shepard was. For DA:I it largely depended on the race/class combo. One of the male voices was highly annoying to me regardless of dialogue options, the other was pretty decent. The female ones were good, but to my ears each one only seemed to fit well with certain races.
Matching what I look like is really unimportant to me - I expect if the game allowed you to pick your race as in DA:I I would have gone straight for Turian.
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I personally hate RPG elements like levelling up, inventory management and spending hours looking at menus. But I love the settings a lot of RPGs take place in. If the actual gameplay mechanics are worthy enough of a real action game, I'm willing to endure the RPG stuff
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hehe...as once told to me....
If I'm going to spend hours watching an avatar's butt running...I'd prefer it was female.
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Some games dictate what your gender, personality, etc. will be. I don't see it as any different than any other storytelling method. I wouldn't skip a good movie or a good book just because the main character is female.
For games that allow choice - it's always been interesting to me to see the variety of ways with which people approach their avatar\character creations.
When I create female characters they're usually modeled after the wife as well, but mostly because she's way prettier than I, and if I have to stare at an ass the whole time I'm playing for 100+ hours in a game, I'd much rather stare at a female figure.
But hey, for those who prefer to stare at dude's rear the whole time, I got no beef with that!
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While I am personally ok with this comment, I think this qualifies as sexist more than anything I've posted
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Anyone else see the hypocrisy here,? So called champions of equality suggesting I am gay for wanting to play as a man, also suggesting that being gay is derrogatory?
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It is a little sexist.
But let me make a comparison.
Person 1: "If I'm going to watch olympic swimming, I'd prefer to watch the women's events, for obvious reasons."
Sexist? Yes. Misogynistic? Not exactly, maybe, but not to many people are going to get bent out of shape over a guy (or gay gal) admitting he or she likes to look at women in swimsuits. It is somewhat natural.
Person 2: "God, why are they even putting this on TV? Women aren't real athletes!"
(Which, yes, is more or less what you did by implying that female protagonists cannot be "indiana jones.")
All / Most of us can be a little sexist at times. I'm a total perv; but I'm *polite* about it, I don't expect or assume anything about women I meet or interact with, I don't stare, or ogle, or make sexist remarks. "I am trying," basically.
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Combine that with a certain exasperation over the whole GamerGate / anti-SJW garbage over the last few years, and yes, maybe some of us are "triggered" over trivialities; but the battle goes on.
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That would be another whole thread, fellow interneter.
Google it. Basically, a bunch of real classy and mostly male gamers attacking female gaming journalists and shitting up threads all over the 'net with similar... themes to some of your posts here.
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Fair enough. Now totally off topic here, what are your opinions on the trans gender dude dominating the women's weightlifting scene?
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No idea who it is you are talking about (I don't watch / care about weightlifting) and you are REALLY TRYING to take this further off topic.
If you would like to discuss this article, by all means, do so. If you want to talk gender issues, there are other threads for that.
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Heck, I think there is another thread *specifically about this game and gender / sexuality issues within it*
RIGHT ON THE FRONT PAGE.
Haven't looked at it, since I'm at work and it looked to be potentially NSFW content / discussion.
RIGHT ON THE FRONT PAGE.
Haven't looked at it, since I'm at work and it looked to be potentially NSFW content / discussion.
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Once again, will you people just downvote and *stop quoting* the troll. These discussions always start off looking innocuous before the troll reveals their true colours and all hell breaks loose. The link to the Soap Box was already provided. Let him see how he survives there.
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It used to be far more common to catch shit for playing a girl character (as a guy). Even that was mainly on MMO's where you were interacting with other live players. Nowadays nobody actually cares.
And there's not much you can infer from a persons character creation in a game like this, other than if they give it a telling name, like Asshat McTrollface the Greater or something like that. You certainly can't tell gender, sexual preferences, manliness or femininity, etc.
PS. As someone who spent endless hours in art school drawing and painting from live nude models, male and female, wide range of ages, I don't feel any hesitation at all about commending the female form over the male in a general sense.
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Well, I guess read my comment as sarcasm. Because I misread your image caption that said, "one thing console players WON'T be doing..." is adjusting the FOV.
Poop.
But on my 4K the FOV is fine, though I'd still love the option.
Why the hell is it so hard for devs to get this right on console?
If I had purchased Just Cause 3 on console I'd be cross-eyed by now, though it's only a mod that allows FOV adjustment.
Luckily, I've mostly played ME on console so the FOV works for me.
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