Winter has arrived: Watch the first Game of Thrones season six trailer

Jon Snow's fate still in limbo, plus other main characters now seem imperilled.

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[Frimmel]

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It would have been so much better if they hadn't stabbed Snow at the end of last season. If they'd just left if with him turning round to see Olly with the blade, cut to panic stricken Snow, blackout. They could then stab the crap out of him as prologue to this season. As much as I like the show (and the books) I've found this "mystery" around Snow's revival and the accompanying coyness of all parties annoying.

 

[Frimmel]

sanloublues[/url]":1wzmdenc]Any major reasons I couldn't or shouldn't switch from the books to the show at this point without watching the previous seasons? Besides all the characters being grownups who don't look like my imagination, I mean

Others have hit on it but there are some important divergences most particularly with Sansa and Tyrion's journey from King's Landing from the novels. They've also seemed to have excised some plotlines although there is suggestion we'll get those/some of those worked back in with this season. You shouldn't have too much difficulty following along/catching up just jumping into season six.

I watched the first season on a free HBO weekend prior to season three. Went and read the books and then watched the rest of the show. I've enjoyed them both.

I'd recommend getting Season 1 or at least the first episode of season one and giving it a look. You'll have a pretty good idea of what you'd enjoy most from that. (Season 1 is most faithful to the book.)

 

[trollhunter]

r venosa[/url]":279mf2fh]

Meailda[/url]":279mf2fh]

trollhunter[/url]":279mf2fh]A weird thought just passed by my mind.
In any other case I would just shrug it, but it's GoT we are talking about...

Spoiler

What if the planned outcome never was a human victory ? I mean, what if GRRM planned all the time the White Walkers to defeat and convert everything at the end ?

Then you wouldn't have had the dragons show up. Their purpose is to be the weapon against the night.

I'm sure the dragonglass will also come in very handy, too!

Yeah, as if supposed advantages in the past seasons hadn't become defeats... See Robb Stark pyrrhic victories.

Jon Snow himself said not all dragonglass and valyrian steel in the world would be enough to stop an army that grows with the fallen enemies. And regarding the dragons: I am sure the Dragonbinder will at some point fall in the cold hands of the White Walkers king.

If there is an author able to create such a grim end, this author is GRRM.

 

[Ezzy Black]

tigas[/url]":23opp2ie]

Surely George RR Martin wouldn't kill off everyone's favourite remaining characters?

How long have you been following this story, exactly? I mean, really.

This. I would never underestimate Mr. Martin's passion for killing off your favorite character.

 

[di0genic]

r venosa[/url]":u9740990]

Meailda[/url]":u9740990]

trollhunter[/url]":u9740990]A weird thought just passed by my mind.
In any other case I would just shrug it, but it's GoT we are talking about...

Spoiler

What if the planned outcome never was a human victory ? I mean, what if GRRM planned all the time the White Walkers to defeat and convert everything at the end ?

Then you wouldn't have had the dragons show up. Their purpose is to be the weapon against the night.

I'm sure the dragonglass will also come in very handy, too!

BuckBuchanan[/url]":u9740990]

sanloublues[/url]":u9740990]Any major reasons I couldn't or shouldn't switch from the books to the show at this point without watching the previous seasons? Besides all the characters being grownups who don't look like my imagination, I mean

As good as it is, you could probably skip season 1 as it is very faithful to the book. But you should definitely watch season 5, and probably 2-4, too.

I can't imagine any person interested in Game of Thrones skipping the amazing first season. If he's read the book, no reason to check out the entire series. Sean Bean's performance is worth the price of admission, alone.

Then again, I've probably watched that first season at least 10 times in its entirety. And now with season 6 approaching, looks like a 5-season binge-watching session is in order...

Dang.

To each their own and all... But I cannot imagine time being so much of a luxury that I could watch a season of GoT 10 times (!). Good for you!

 

[carlisimo]

sanloublues[/url]":30xfli5y]Any major reasons I couldn't or shouldn't switch from the books to the show at this point without watching the previous seasons? Besides all the characters being grownups who don't look like my imagination, I mean

Watching the previous seasons would probably get you used to these actors before diving into new material. And they were really good, with the possible exception of the last season.

Other than that, Jaime's arc is probably the most divergent. He got mixed up into the Dorne arc, and stuff happened that hasn't in the books (but might yet). Shireen has also had some, uh, plot progression in the show that I can only assume will happen in the next book. Both of those were late in the last season of the show so you should watch it.

 

[Psychophant]

Dakke[/url]":3n2cfulg]It's more a teaser than a trailer and it doesn't contain any real new footage or new dialogue. That said, it'll be interesting to see how this season turns out. With the majority of the season being content of the unpublished Winds of Winter, sullied and unsullied alike are now on equal footing.

As for the story itself, I hope Daenarys finally moves from Meereen in the latter end. Three seasons of Slaver's Bay is sufficient. I mostly look forward to the northern and King's Landing plot, though the Ironborn will be quite interesting too. Redemption for Dorne would be welcome. I am most curious about the role of the White Walkers. Hardhome was badass and I hope we see more of their menacing power.

Well, she's already out of slaver's bay. The question is now that she is a dragonrider, will she command a Dothraki horde and cross the narrow sea or return to Mereen?

 

[DaVuVuZeLa]

Surely George RR Martin wouldn't kill off everyone's favourite remaining characters? There must be some other explanation. Right?

Nope.

All men must die.

 

[TadGhostal66]

There really needs to be an article describing (in detail) the video? Hint: No

 

[Ohmn]

trollhunter[/url]":2gb5drkx]A weird thought just passed by my mind.
In any other case I would just shrug it, but it's GoT we are talking about...

Spoiler

What if the planned outcome never was a human victory ? I mean, what if GRRM planned all the time the White Walkers to defeat and convert everything at the end ?

Lots of people have had that thought about GoT. Personally, I think it would make his story great.

 

[infected]

I mentioned this Trailer to a colleague today and remarked on how two of my favourite characters amongst others are for the chopping, he replied... "well they can't just kill off a load of main characters can they...

It turns out he doesn't watch Game of thrones.

 

[azazel1024]

mrseb[/url]":2ie42xk7]

sanloublues[/url]":2ie42xk7]Any major reasons I couldn't or shouldn't switch from the books to the show at this point without watching the previous seasons? Besides all the characters being grownups who don't look like my imagination, I mean

I'm not an expert, but I think there are currently a few questions about how the books will handle the divergence from the TV series. There are quite a few changes in the TV series - and so now, as we move into season six, we have no idea if those changes will be back-propagated to the books. Or if the books will stick to their divergent plot. Or some other solution entirely.

(I haven't read the books - I decided to watch the show first, then read the books later, when/if GRRM finishes them!)

I got through book 4 and just couldn't start book 5.

I was enjoying them a lot, but my enjoyment started dying off, not with the characters killed, but with the group ping pong that was happening with points of view.

I can't recall if it was the 3rd or the 4th book that I counted how many points of view there were, but IIRC I hit 17 and I may have missed one or two. That is narrative changes, that is different characters whom the story is told from their point of view.

Sometimes it gets tiring when you hit a cliffhanger of a chapter or something then have to wait 130 pages before the book comes back to that persons narrative to see what is happening and in between you visit 2 other main characters, a secondary character and 2 red shirted ensigns.

Personally it just got to be too much. I enjoyed a lot of the writing and the story telling, but it really did get to be too much jumping around for me and it accelerated as the books went on. I was worried book 5 might not actually have more than 1 chapter dedicated to each character.

 

[azazel1024]

Frimmel[/url]"0f4q5la]

sanloublues[/url]"0f4q5la]Any major reasons I couldn't or shouldn't switch from the books to the show at this point without watching the previous seasons? Besides all the characters being grownups who don't look like my imagination, I mean

Others have hit on it but there are some important divergences most particularly with Sansa and Tyrion's journey from King's Landing from the novels. They've also seemed to have excised some plotlines although there is suggestion we'll get those/some of those worked back in with this season. You shouldn't have too much difficulty following along/catching up just jumping into season six.

I watched the first season on a free HBO weekend prior to season three. Went and read the books and then watched the rest of the show. I've enjoyed them both.

I'd recommend getting Season 1 or at least the first episode of season one and giving it a look. You'll have a pretty good idea of what you'd enjoy most from that. (Season 1 is most faithful to the book.)

one of the more notable ones to me is the hound. In the book he dies. In the show, they don't necessarily show him coming to an ending. So he might be alive, he may not be. Also how it comes to be that he is nearly dead (or dead) is also widely divergent (in the book, an infected wound in the other, Brianne).

 

[jandrese]

azazel1024[/url]":2hme9e5l]I got through book 4 and just couldn't start book 5.

I was enjoying them a lot, but my enjoyment started dying off, not with the characters killed, but with the group ping pong that was happening with points of view.

I can't recall if it was the 3rd or the 4th book that I counted how many points of view there were, but IIRC I hit 17 and I may have missed one or two. That is narrative changes, that is different characters whom the story is told from their point of view.

Sometimes it gets tiring when you hit a cliffhanger of a chapter or something then have to wait 130 pages before the book comes back to that persons narrative to see what is happening and in between you visit 2 other main characters, a secondary character and 2 red shirted ensigns.

Personally it just got to be too much. I enjoyed a lot of the writing and the story telling, but it really did get to be too much jumping around for me and it accelerated as the books went on. I was worried book 5 might not actually have more than 1 chapter dedicated to each character.

Can I humbly suggest that you press on and read book five? Book 4 feels almost like GRRM trolling his fanbase by stuffing all of the uninteresting plotlines into a single book and then ending it with a "neener neener all of the good stuff is in book 5!" It's true though, book 5 is a lot better than book 4 (but not as good as 1 or 3 sadly). I really hope the story picks up momentum again in book 6, but with most everybody snowed in (spoiler alert) at the end of book 5 I'm really not sure how it's going to happen.

 

[Shannara]

MartinHatch[/url]":2vn3mftc]

Jon Snow's fate still in limbo..

Spoiler

No it isn't .. George R Martin already accidentally let slip in an interview that he is alive

Citation? Where's the link ..

 

[Dakke]

Psychophant[/url]":2bg341tq]

Dakke[/url]":2bg341tq]It's more a teaser than a trailer and it doesn't contain any real new footage or new dialogue. That said, it'll be interesting to see how this season turns out. With the majority of the season being content of the unpublished Winds of Winter, sullied and unsullied alike are now on equal footing.

As for the story itself, I hope Daenarys finally moves from Meereen in the latter end. Three seasons of Slaver's Bay is sufficient. I mostly look forward to the northern and King's Landing plot, though the Ironborn will be quite interesting too. Redemption for Dorne would be welcome. I am most curious about the role of the White Walkers. Hardhome was badass and I hope we see more of their menacing power.

Well, she's already out of slaver's bay. The question is now that she is a dragonrider, will she command a Dothraki horde and cross the narrow sea or return to Mereen?

True, that's an important question. I assume she'll bind the Dothraki to her in the Grass Sea and repeal the Yunkese besieging Meereen. Then I think she'll leave (episode 9 or 8), possibly accompanied by Tyrion and Varys, and possibly land in Dorne or the Storm lands (episode 10 or season 7).

 

[caldepen]

Dakke[/url]":2wnw5bij]

Psychophant[/url]":2wnw5bij]

Dakke[/url]":2wnw5bij]It's more a teaser than a trailer and it doesn't contain any real new footage or new dialogue. That said, it'll be interesting to see how this season turns out. With the majority of the season being content of the unpublished Winds of Winter, sullied and unsullied alike are now on equal footing.

As for the story itself, I hope Daenarys finally moves from Meereen in the latter end. Three seasons of Slaver's Bay is sufficient. I mostly look forward to the northern and King's Landing plot, though the Ironborn will be quite interesting too. Redemption for Dorne would be welcome. I am most curious about the role of the White Walkers. Hardhome was badass and I hope we see more of their menacing power.

Well, she's already out of slaver's bay. The question is now that she is a dragonrider, will she command a Dothraki horde and cross the narrow sea or return to Mereen?

True, that's an important question. I assume she'll bind the Dothraki to her in the Grass Sea and repeal the Yunkese besieging Meereen. Then I think she'll leave (episode 9 or 8), possibly accompanied by Tyrion and Varys, and possibly land in Dorne or the Storm lands (episode 10 or season 7).

Good theory, and agreed, if she doesn't make a move this season/book and come back across it will get a bit boring (if not already). Besides she better get back soon, those dragons are needed.

 

[azazel1024]

jandrese[/url]":3nyrhqn6]

azazel1024[/url]":3nyrhqn6]I got through book 4 and just couldn't start book 5.

I was enjoying them a lot, but my enjoyment started dying off, not with the characters killed, but with the group ping pong that was happening with points of view.

I can't recall if it was the 3rd or the 4th book that I counted how many points of view there were, but IIRC I hit 17 and I may have missed one or two. That is narrative changes, that is different characters whom the story is told from their point of view.

Sometimes it gets tiring when you hit a cliffhanger of a chapter or something then have to wait 130 pages before the book comes back to that persons narrative to see what is happening and in between you visit 2 other main characters, a secondary character and 2 red shirted ensigns.

Personally it just got to be too much. I enjoyed a lot of the writing and the story telling, but it really did get to be too much jumping around for me and it accelerated as the books went on. I was worried book 5 might not actually have more than 1 chapter dedicated to each character.

Can I humbly suggest that you press on and read book five? Book 4 feels almost like GRRM trolling his fanbase by stuffing all of the uninteresting plotlines into a single book and then ending it with a "neener neener all of the good stuff is in book 5!" It's true though, book 5 is a lot better than book 4 (but not as good as 1 or 3 sadly). I really hope the story picks up momentum again in book 6, but with most everybody snowed in (spoiler alert) at the end of book 5 I'm really not sure how it's going to happen.

Alright, but I am going to hold you accountable!

 

[Frimmel]

azazel1024[/url]":1qr85axd]

jandrese[/url]":1qr85axd]

azazel1024[/url]":1qr85axd]I got through book 4 and just couldn't start book 5.

I was enjoying them a lot, but my enjoyment started dying off, not with the characters killed, but with the group ping pong that was happening with points of view.

I can't recall if it was the 3rd or the 4th book that I counted how many points of view there were, but IIRC I hit 17 and I may have missed one or two. That is narrative changes, that is different characters whom the story is told from their point of view.

Sometimes it gets tiring when you hit a cliffhanger of a chapter or something then have to wait 130 pages before the book comes back to that persons narrative to see what is happening and in between you visit 2 other main characters, a secondary character and 2 red shirted ensigns.

Personally it just got to be too much. I enjoyed a lot of the writing and the story telling, but it really did get to be too much jumping around for me and it accelerated as the books went on. I was worried book 5 might not actually have more than 1 chapter dedicated to each character.

Can I humbly suggest that you press on and read book five? Book 4 feels almost like GRRM trolling his fanbase by stuffing all of the uninteresting plotlines into a single book and then ending it with a "neener neener all of the good stuff is in book 5!" It's true though, book 5 is a lot better than book 4 (but not as good as 1 or 3 sadly). I really hope the story picks up momentum again in book 6, but with most everybody snowed in (spoiler alert) at the end of book 5 I'm really not sure how it's going to happen.

Alright, but I am going to hold you accountable!

I didn't hate book four but the first half or so really felt like a great big left turn. I get the complaints about it. However book 4.5 (book four and five were originally meant to be one but there was too much) has that whole thing with the Ironborn leading to a showdown I'm quite eager for.

 

[azazel1024]

Frimmel[/url]":2slbv5uy]

azazel1024[/url]":2slbv5uy]

jandrese[/url]":2slbv5uy]

azazel1024[/url]":2slbv5uy]I got through book 4 and just couldn't start book 5.

I was enjoying them a lot, but my enjoyment started dying off, not with the characters killed, but with the group ping pong that was happening with points of view.

I can't recall if it was the 3rd or the 4th book that I counted how many points of view there were, but IIRC I hit 17 and I may have missed one or two. That is narrative changes, that is different characters whom the story is told from their point of view.

Sometimes it gets tiring when you hit a cliffhanger of a chapter or something then have to wait 130 pages before the book comes back to that persons narrative to see what is happening and in between you visit 2 other main characters, a secondary character and 2 red shirted ensigns.

Personally it just got to be too much. I enjoyed a lot of the writing and the story telling, but it really did get to be too much jumping around for me and it accelerated as the books went on. I was worried book 5 might not actually have more than 1 chapter dedicated to each character.

Can I humbly suggest that you press on and read book five? Book 4 feels almost like GRRM trolling his fanbase by stuffing all of the uninteresting plotlines into a single book and then ending it with a "neener neener all of the good stuff is in book 5!" It's true though, book 5 is a lot better than book 4 (but not as good as 1 or 3 sadly). I really hope the story picks up momentum again in book 6, but with most everybody snowed in (spoiler alert) at the end of book 5 I'm really not sure how it's going to happen.

Alright, but I am going to hold you accountable!

I didn't hate book four but the first half or so really felt like a great big left turn. I get the complaints about it. However book 4.5 (book four and five were originally meant to be one but there was too much) has that whole thing with the Ironborn leading to a showdown I'm quite eager for.

That was perhaps the part that interested me the most in the book, but I felt like the first half was a lot of wandering in the wilderness of plot lines (not entirely literally wandering in the wilderness), combined with narratives shifting all over the place...

Anyway, when I have the spare time I'll try picking up book 5 and reading it. I may have a enough space from the first 4 to read it now. I didn't pick the books up until about 2 years ago and spammed them. I think I read all 4 in 5 weeks.

 

[jandrese]

But it also had that huge detour with the Ironborn stump speeches that seemed to go on forever.

Maybe it's just me though. I've hated the Ironborn since GRRM explained the "Iron Price" back in book whatever. Bunch of useless fucking parasites. Ned Stark should have burned their kingdom to the ground. The only one who seems to realize it is Theon, who immediately realized that his family sucks when he got back home and wanted nothing more than to go back and live with Starks again. The Starks weren't even especially nice to him, but even so he couldn't help but to fall in love.

 

[caldepen]

Which book is the one where we follow Brienne in the woods with her sidekick? Is that 4? If so that was the tough one to get through... jesus get there already!

 

[jandrese]

Yeah, that was another draggy plotline. One can only read them bickering for the bazillionth time before going "just fucking kiss already!"

 

[gulthaw]

Shannara[/url]":as4rmzd0]

MartinHatch[/url]":as4rmzd0]

Jon Snow's fate still in limbo..

Spoiler

No it isn't .. George R Martin already accidentally let slip in an interview that he is alive

Citation? Where's the link ..

I was as surprised as you were after reading that, pleasantly though

My google fu didn't fail me so, this is what he said:

"Yes, I always had plans, what Tyrion's arc was gonna be through this, what Arya's arc was gonna be through this, what Jon Snow's arc is gonna be,"

Source

 

[gulthaw]

gulthaw[/url]":22n9tbni]

Shannara[/url]":22n9tbni]

MartinHatch[/url]":22n9tbni]

Jon Snow's fate still in limbo..

Spoiler

No it isn't .. George R Martin already accidentally let slip in an interview that he is alive

Citation? Where's the link ..

I was as surprised as you were after reading that, pleasantly though

My google fu didn't fail me so, this is what he said:

"Yes, I always had plans, what Tyrion's arc was gonna be through this, what Arya's arc was gonna be through this, what Jon Snow's arc is gonna be,"

Source

edit: fixed tags

 

[MartinHatch]

Alyeska[/url]":3393xufh]

mrseb[/url]":3393xufh]

maehara[/url]":3393xufh]Is that a Red Dwarf reference I see in the header? +1 if so.

I like to think that by season eight of GoT, it'll just be Arya Stark wandering around the world - everyone else will have died. Maybe she'll have a pet cat. And a hologram bodyguard.

Don't forget the service mechanoid.

No .. that will appear in Season 9 .. they'll find it wandering the halls of Kings Landing trying to serve soup to a skeleton Queen Cercei