That I really wish Google was willing to test outside of the US for it's 1 gigabit per second, fiber-to-the-home connections
Originally posted by jaericho:
Why? It's the quickest way to find out if the change will work (or not).![]()

As with all HP issues, firmware. We had a rash of ESX servers shutting themselves off because of this. Good stuff.Originally posted by Danger Mouse:
EDIT: one of the Blade servers showed 140F internal temperature with 280F exhaust temp. I'm willing to be the exhaust temp may be off a bit, because I don't think HP's engineers would have calibrated for a temperature that high.
Originally posted by Whittey:
As with all HP issues, firmware. We had a rash of ESX servers shutting themselves off because of this. Good stuff.Originally posted by Danger Mouse:
EDIT: one of the Blade servers showed 140F internal temperature with 280F exhaust temp. I'm willing to be the exhaust temp may be off a bit, because I don't think HP's engineers would have calibrated for a temperature that high.
I wish HP would farm out their software to someone else.
-=Whittey=-
Originally posted by Danger Mouse:
I think you misunderstand me. For sure the internal temps were at 140, because ambient was well over 100 at the time.
I just think the exhaust temp was more like 180 or so in reality. I don't think they bother to calibrate up to 280. I would whatever is the advertised operational range of the equipment would be covered and maybe a bit beyond that.
I don't think it's reasonable for a company to spend the resources to check for calibration, say twice the operating range in temperature.
And the servers didn't shut off.
The one that autorebooted was an Exchange server. Our ONLY backend Exchange server. Wooo.
Originally posted by WingMan:
Originally posted by Danger Mouse:
I think you misunderstand me. For sure the internal temps were at 140, because ambient was well over 100 at the time.
I just think the exhaust temp was more like 180 or so in reality. I don't think they bother to calibrate up to 280. I would whatever is the advertised operational range of the equipment would be covered and maybe a bit beyond that.
I don't think it's reasonable for a company to spend the resources to check for calibration, say twice the operating range in temperature.
And the servers didn't shut off.
The one that autorebooted was an Exchange server. Our ONLY backend Exchange server. Wooo.
I'm now glad that our thermal shutdown settings for our HP equipment actually works (or wasn't it set up?). We're putting in another 20 ton unit because the 2 we have can't cope with the heat from the servers if one the compressors shuts down for any reason. It's not bad in the winter because we can just open the doors (or shut the heat off in the adjoining office).
Originally posted by Danger Mouse:
No, you see, the contractor setting all that up, didn't actually set it up. It's the same thing with the UPS monitoring gear, even though they have officially "finished" with that part as of a few months ago.
That's not been set up either.
And so forth and so on.
Originally posted by Rick25:
Looks like I'm getting Exchange 2010 ahead of the projected 2011 timeframe.
Originally posted by scorp508:
W00T!!!
Originally posted by ronelson:
Working with legacy code is such crap. Just the simple process of converting shell to perl is difficult enough, do you really need to add triple-nested if/elsif loops that do not actually do anything that I spend hours staring at because I am convinced that it had to do something? Unfortunately, elder programmer, you can no longer be fired since you quit years ago. Clearly an asshole who had it out for me![]()
At the end of the day, I have to have a replacement for it. If I delete it, I have to write replacement code. If I want to write replacement code, I have to understand what the hell is going on in there.Code deleted is code debugged.
Originally posted by BajanDude:
... We migrated data off of an aging Proliant 3000 last year (just IIS static pages). Rebooted the server to check something, and it died :> ...
Talk about an excellent way for the script kiddies to hide stuff in "run" Put a CRLF in the entry's name.Originally posted by Fulgan:
Today, I learned that regedit can fail to load files created with regedit.
I have an app that stores string values in the registry using CR+LF inside the string. Regedit can perfectly save that, is fully capable of parsing the resulting file again (because it will load the registry keys that are after the multi-line entries) but will silently fail to load the relevant keys (as in reporting success but not having actually loaded the keys).
Originally posted by Danger Mouse:
....in order to get an ancient app developed for VMS, now running on a modern OpenVMS install on a HP Superdome, to print successfully to a modern nonHP color laser printer:
-be sure to make the users select B&W only for printing
Sounds simple, right? That involves educating our end users. This won't go well.
If the mopier vendor had a B&W only driver, that would be better. That would force PCL 5 emulation instead of PCL5c (color extensions added, prior to PCL6, AFAICT) without requiring our end users to click on too many buttons.
This could have been avoided if the District office had budgeted for the PS printing addon for the server, or had deployed it or had told us it existed. etc.
During the building and equipment planning phase, they probably ignored this particular use case, even though the majority of mission critical data is on these legacy systems.
Instead, we're due for a Naruto style 1000 years of pain.
Talk about an excellent way for the script kiddies to hide stuff in "run" Put a CRLF in the entry's name.
Originally posted by afidel:
Originally posted by Danger Mouse:
....in order to get an ancient app developed for VMS, now running on a modern OpenVMS install on a HP Superdome, to print successfully to a modern nonHP color laser printer:
-be sure to make the users select B&W only for printing
Sounds simple, right? That involves educating our end users. This won't go well.
If the mopier vendor had a B&W only driver, that would be better. That would force PCL 5 emulation instead of PCL5c (color extensions added, prior to PCL6, AFAICT) without requiring our end users to click on too many buttons.
This could have been avoided if the District office had budgeted for the PS printing addon for the server, or had deployed it or had told us it existed. etc.
During the building and equipment planning phase, they probably ignored this particular use case, even though the majority of mission critical data is on these legacy systems.
Instead, we're due for a Naruto style 1000 years of pain.
In addition to possibly using the LJ4 PCL driver if you are using a print server just set the client default to B&W. We did this for cost saving reasons (~$150K per year saved).
Originally posted by ronelson:
At the end of the day, I have to have a replacement for it. If I delete it, I have to write replacement code. If I want to write replacement code, I have to understand what the hell is going on in there.Code deleted is code debugged.
It could be worse. Another guy I was talking to yesterday inherited a program with vars like the hash "%h" and the function "m". Lord only knows what the fuck is going on there.
Originally posted by LamoTheKid:
today I learned the 4.x version of NOD32 blows. and I'm in the process of switching everyone over to 3.x (we use 2.x on the servers).
Ouch! I think that is about where this guy is. The whole toolset has a fancy acronym and when they load a new server with it, they dump a tarfile on there, expand it in a directory...and hope it works. They are about to move from Solaris to Linux as well, hopef they are prepared. If nothing else, the path-to-shell information in each script is going to be different...or they could do something crazy like installing older versions of tools in those directories. I would not bet against that...When he quit, another guy became the owner of said code, had a look at it, and damn near started crying after seeing all the variables were simply named a, b, c..., and if the letters ran out, a1, b1, and so forth.
I have no idea what functions and such were called, but I assume those weren't any better.
Originally posted by K0DE:
4k IOPS on 110 spindles? Must be the storage guy's fault!
I think maybe the best choice is to set up a separate print queue to the same printer, but with different defaults. That will work better than asking them to change printer settings in a deeper dialogue box.
Originally posted by scorp508:
Originally posted by K0DE:
4k IOPS on 110 spindles? Must be the storage guy's fault!
Are you saying 110 spindles are only capable ofr 4k IOPS? That's pathetic, but I think I'm reading your post wrong.![]()
Originally posted by akro:
I think thats the point....
They aren't driving enough IO to the disks.
Yeah people some how don't understand there is a difference between streaming 1 file to 1 person and looking up and replying to multiple people at the same time from a massive number of possible locations. Including a lot of admins.The where sure they were an DW type workload. When I gently explained that 30MB\s of 4k I\Os was a lot of activity I still got the response of my IPOD is faster than that.
Originally posted by WingMan:
Learned that iLo on blades controls the blade chassis fan speed and that it's a known issue with 1.80 version of iLo firmware to make the blade chassis fans go at full bore all the time. Fix was to down rev to 1.78 for every blade in the chassis. For fun...not.