Westworld’s Main Street shooting set at Paramount Ranch burns down

HBO: "We do not yet know the extent of the damage to any structures remaining there."

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[Ecmaster76]

That's awful. I'm glad no one was hurt there (though people have died elsewhere) and its nice the church survived

At least for Westworld it would be easy to explain the destruction after everything that happened in S2

 

[Zeroumus]

maybe they can write it into the story

 

[slowtech]

Is that the same church from Wynonna Earp? Looks like it.

 

[Baumi]

Just as an FYI: While the property has been used as a filming location since 1927, the sets themselves weren’t nearly that old. From what I could find online, the original Wild West sets were torn down long ago, and the most recent Western Town was built in the 1980s.

Still, the fire destroyed quite a bit of TV and movie history, but not quite as much as I initially presumed.

 

[SoporificVacuum]

New way to keep up production schedule: burn down your old sets, claim the insurance, and build your new season's new park sets from the cash...

But also, that looks like a lot of history was lost :/

Your intimation that HBO started the wildfire is extremely weird.

 

[Sarty]

It's a tricky PR/messaging challenge to talk about the damage to your TV set when people are fleeing and losing their homes, with many actual deaths (last I saw was 9). On the one hand, TV sets are extraordinarily less important than homes and lives, and you don't want to presume the focus should be on your TV stuff. On the other hand, your TV stuff is what you're authoritatively able to talk about -- nobody is going to call up an HBO spokesperson to find out about the important stuff. They're going to do that to find out about HBO stuff.

I think the folks in charge did a pretty good job of weighing this balance.

 

[numerobis]

It's a tricky PR/messaging challenge to talk about the damage to your TV set when people are fleeing and losing their homes, with many actual deaths (last I saw was 9). On the one hand, TV sets are extraordinarily less important than homes and lives, and you don't want to presume the focus should be on your TV stuff. On the other hand, your TV stuff is what you're authoritatively able to talk about -- nobody is going to call up an HBO spokesperson to find out about the important stuff. They're going to do that to find out about HBO stuff.

I think the folks in charge did a pretty good job of weighing this balance.

Their response sounds to me like the result of an inner dialogue going “cities are burning down, people are dying, and you’re asking me about our set? Are you nuts?”

 

[9Blu]

Is that the same church from Wynonna Earp? Looks like it.

Wynonna Earp is filmed in Alberta.

 

[ahmerali]

maybe they can write it into the story

Lol...I would bet money they already have.

The only question is whether Ford planted the impulse in Bernard to do it to cover his tracks for some reason. Or maybe it was William....

 

[GreenEclipse1]

The writers should work this destruction into the script. The fire damage is priceless when caught on film. Like others have said build a new set with the insurance money.

 

[slowtech]

Is that the same church from Wynonna Earp? Looks like it.

Wynonna Earp is filmed in Alberta.

Did not know, thanks.

 

[ColdWetDog]

The writers should work this destruction into the script. The fire damage is priceless when caught on film. Like others have said build a new set with the insurance money.

"You there, yeah, you kid - take this camera and film that fire."

I don't see this working out well.

 

[Ildatch]

California and the federal government really need to get out of the way so the people working in forestry can do regular controlled burns so we aren't having these massive life threatening fires all the time.

There are policies that prevent that?

 

[itfa]

California and the federal government really need to get out of the way so the people working in forestry can do regular controlled burns so we aren't having these massive life threatening fires all the time.

There are policies that prevent that?

The required environmental studies, air quality studies, CDC studies, and fact that you are often dealing with National Forest land, BLM land, State land, and private land means that from the time a controlled burn is recommended for an area it takes several years to receive the go ahead.
It really isn't just a California problem, but really a Western United States problem with all the land the federal government controls and the policies they've allowed to be enacted by environmentalists instead of scientists. It is natural and healthy to let a fire rip through a couple of thousand acres on a somewhat regular basis, and not allowing that is what leads to these huge life changing fires.

 

[numerobis]

The writers should work this destruction into the script. The fire damage is priceless when caught on film. Like others have said build a new set with the insurance money.

"You there, yeah, you kid - take this camera and film that fire."

I don't see this working out well.

Nah, they’ll just fix it in post.

 

[Eurynom0s]

California and the federal government really need to get out of the way so the people working in forestry can do regular controlled burns so we aren't having these massive life threatening fires all the time.

There are policies that prevent that?

The required environmental studies, air quality studies, CDC studies, and fact that you are often dealing with National Forest land, BLM land, State land, and private land means that from the time a controlled burn is recommended for an area it takes several years to receive the go ahead.
It really isn't just a California problem, but really a Western United States problem with all the land the federal government controls and the policies they've allowed to be enacted by environmentalists instead of scientists. It is natural and healthy to let a fire rip through a couple of thousand acres on a somewhat regular basis, and not allowing that is what leads to these huge life changing fires.

Unfortunately you're never going to see that happen as long as they keep letting houses be built in these cinderbox areas.

 

[PenGun]

Its November and you still have massive fire in California. Just unlucky I guess, what other reason could there be?

 

[vishnu]

The writers should work this destruction into the script. The fire damage is priceless when caught on film. Like others have said build a new set with the insurance money.

"You there, yeah, you kid - take this camera and film that fire."

I don't see this working out well.

Characters come back, and see the burned out city. There's not a need to film it burning.

 

[JustUsul]

Just to show things cannot get worse /s

President Donald Trump woke up in Paris on Saturday in the mood to make threats toward California as it deals with deadly wildfires in Northern California and hundreds of smoldering homes in Southern California. In an angry tweet, the president threatened to pull federal funding for the state if nothing is done to "remedy" the situation.

Edit: should've made sarcasm clear.

Does the president have that power? I'm pretty sure the House controls budget appropriations, no?

 

[Peevester]

sadly, i think trump might be on the right side on this one. not to give him credit though, if you take a position on 100 things you know nothing about, your bound to be on the right side of one of them

Considering these fires aren't in forest land, no "bad forest management" didn't cause them.

You could argue that chaparral land is not great to live in and not a great location for a city, but that die was cast two centuries ago.

 

[Azethoth666]

Its November and you still have massive fire in California. Just unlucky I guess, what other reason could there be?

Not sure where you live but fall is only now starting in northern CA. We have had one week of leaves dropping off trees, but also 88F weather and only minor scattered rain this one time a month back. Today is the first time I am thinking that morning coffee in shorts and T-shirt is too chilly.

The set is in southern CA though where it is about 10F warmer usually.

 

[ihatewinter]

Just to show things cannot get worse /s

President Donald Trump woke up in Paris on Saturday in the mood to make threats toward California as it deals with deadly wildfires in Northern California and hundreds of smoldering homes in Southern California. In an angry tweet, the president threatened to pull federal funding for the state if nothing is done to "remedy" the situation.

Edit: should've made sarcasm clear.

Do we need your fake news post? Does anyone? How about on a science based website? Is it even remotely the right way to go?

What is 'fake news' in his comment?

 

[therealeffingaeiouy]

Just to show things cannot get worse /s

President Donald Trump woke up in Paris on Saturday in the mood to make threats toward California as it deals with deadly wildfires in Northern California and hundreds of smoldering homes in Southern California. In an angry tweet, the president threatened to pull federal funding for the state if nothing is done to "remedy" the situation.

Edit: should've made sarcasm clear.

Do we need your fake news post? Does anyone? How about on a science based website? Is it even remotely the right way to go?

It’s not fake news, and it is 100% relevant when the president insanely comments like that about wildfires. The story is about wild fires. Are you confused?

 

[ihatewinter]

sadly, i think trump might be on the right side on this one. not to give him credit though, if you take a position on 100 things you know nothing about, your bound to be on the right side of one of them

What is 'right' about what he said? What 'gross mismanagement of forests' leading to fires is there? And how would withholding funds fix the problem if there was mismanagement of the forests causing the fires?

 

[feldon30]

The writers should work this destruction into the script. The fire damage is priceless when caught on film. Like others have said build a new set with the insurance money.

"You there, yeah, you kid - take this camera and film that fire."

I don't see this working out well.

Characters come back, and see the burned out city. There's not a need to film it burning.

Explanation? RAID crash.

 

[Baumi]

Just to show things cannot get worse /s

President Donald Trump woke up in Paris on Saturday in the mood to make threats toward California as it deals with deadly wildfires in Northern California and hundreds of smoldering homes in Southern California. In an angry tweet, the president threatened to pull federal funding for the state if nothing is done to "remedy" the situation.

Edit: should've made sarcasm clear.

Do we need your fake news post? Does anyone? How about on a science based website? Is it even remotely the right way to go?

The tweet is real. Unfortunately.

 

[Quisquis]

New way to keep up production schedule: burn down your old sets, claim the insurance, and build your new season's new park sets from the cash...

But also, that looks like a lot of history was lost :/

Your intimation that HBO started the wildfire is extremely weird.

Really?

Because it's a joke. "Burn it for the insurance money" is a standard joke...

 

[Nalyd]

A shame. If only there were some photographs or other images of the place, to use as a guide for rebuilding. But alas.

 

[TomGooding]

Well, the Man in Black did say he was “going to burn this place to the ground.”

 

[Azethoth666]

Just to show things cannot get worse /s

President Donald Trump woke up in Paris on Saturday in the mood to make threats toward California as it deals with deadly wildfires in Northern California and hundreds of smoldering homes in Southern California. In an angry tweet, the president threatened to pull federal funding for the state if nothing is done to "remedy" the situation.

Edit: should've made sarcasm clear.

Do we need your fake news post? Does anyone? How about on a science based website? Is it even remotely the right way to go?

What is 'fake news' in his comment?

The president does not get to decide funding. Congress does. This is a basic fact of America you are thought in school. You can be all kinds of ignorant on various topics but it is hard to pretend it is reasonable to not know this.

As an example, the Pentagon can decide it does not need some dumb weapon system and ask for it to be cancelled. Later Congress decides to increase the budget and produce even more stuff nobody wants except for employees in their districts. Even Ars cannot help but cover these basic realities, they are so pervasive. NASA suffers from this too. Trump is even on record bitching about the cost of SLS and we are nowhere near cancelling it.

 

[ihatewinter]

Just to show things cannot get worse /s

President Donald Trump woke up in Paris on Saturday in the mood to make threats toward California as it deals with deadly wildfires in Northern California and hundreds of smoldering homes in Southern California. In an angry tweet, the president threatened to pull federal funding for the state if nothing is done to "remedy" the situation.

Edit: should've made sarcasm clear.

Do we need your fake news post? Does anyone? How about on a science based website? Is it even remotely the right way to go?

What is 'fake news' in his comment?

The president does not get to decide funding. Congress does. This is a basic fact of America you are thought in school. You can be all kinds of ignorant on various topics but it is hard to pretend it is reasonable to not know this.

As an example, the Pentagon can decide it does not need some dumb weapon system and ask for it to be cancelled. Later Congress decides to increase the budget and produce even more stuff nobody wants except for employees in their districts. Even Ars cannot help but cover these basic realities, they are so pervasive. NASA suffers from this too. Trump is even on record bitching about the cost of SLS and we are nowhere near cancelling it.

You seem to be confused. You complained about linnen's comment saying it was 'fake news'. The president made a tweet about the fires which linnen brought to our attention. That the presient made the tweet is not 'fake news.' That the president made another threat he can't back up is also not 'fake news'. He made the tweet and he made the threat. That is *actual news*. When the president speaks-whether making another idiot tweet or not- that is news.

 

[Baumi]

Just to show things cannot get worse /s

President Donald Trump woke up in Paris on Saturday in the mood to make threats toward California as it deals with deadly wildfires in Northern California and hundreds of smoldering homes in Southern California. In an angry tweet, the president threatened to pull federal funding for the state if nothing is done to "remedy" the situation.

Edit: should've made sarcasm clear.

Do we need your fake news post? Does anyone? How about on a science based website? Is it even remotely the right way to go?

What is 'fake news' in his comment?

The president does not get to decide funding. Congress does. This is a basic fact of America you are thought in school. You can be all kinds of ignorant on various topics but it is hard to pretend it is reasonable to not know this.

As an example, the Pentagon can decide it does not need some dumb weapon system and ask for it to be cancelled. Later Congress decides to increase the budget and produce even more stuff nobody wants except for employees in their districts. Even Ars cannot help but cover these basic realities, they are so pervasive. NASA suffers from this too. Trump is even on record bitching about the cost of SLS and we are nowhere near cancelling it.

Don’t shoot the messenger. The user just reported the content of Trump‘s tweet. It’s not their fault, if the president is ignorant on the way government funding works. (And if that really is the case, that’s one more reason to talk about the tweet.)

 

[JustUsul]

Just to show things cannot get worse /s

President Donald Trump woke up in Paris on Saturday in the mood to make threats toward California as it deals with deadly wildfires in Northern California and hundreds of smoldering homes in Southern California. In an angry tweet, the president threatened to pull federal funding for the state if nothing is done to "remedy" the situation.

Edit: should've made sarcasm clear.

Do we need your fake news post? Does anyone? How about on a science based website? Is it even remotely the right way to go?

What is 'fake news' in his comment?

The president does not get to decide funding. Congress does. This is a basic fact of America you are thought in school. You can be all kinds of ignorant on various topics but it is hard to pretend it is reasonable to not know this.

As an example, the Pentagon can decide it does not need some dumb weapon system and ask for it to be cancelled. Later Congress decides to increase the budget and produce even more stuff nobody wants except for employees in their districts. Even Ars cannot help but cover these basic realities, they are so pervasive. NASA suffers from this too. Trump is even on record bitching about the cost of SLS and we are nowhere near cancelling it.

That's not what "fake news" is, though, and no one is claiming to think the president has such power. Here, let me demonstrate:

1. Example of fake news: A news report that the president will cancel Federal funding for California forest management (this did not happen within the context of the Ars article or discussion thread).
2. Example of a blowhard making specious tweets: The president threatens to pull billions of Federal funding from CA forest management (this did happen).

So, maybe save your indignations for the petulant ignoramus that made the threat in the first place.