Waymo has a big lead in driverless cars—but here’s how they could lose it

Even if Waymo gets to market first, it'll face stiff competition from rivals.

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[duedadew]

I honestly wish companies would first launch level 3 autonomy vehicles first. I.e., I want a car I can be driving manually to be able to enter an automatic driving mode that just keeps me in my lane, doesn't hit anything, stops at red lights, etc. I don't even care if it doesn't know how to change lanes or turn onto different roads. Just let me get in a lane, press a button, and then zone out until the next 10 miles of my commute down the freeway are done.

Having recently gotten a chance to drive a Tesla for a long weekend, all I can say is that the experience redefines what it's like to drive. I was still aware of things around me, but since I wasn't constantly focusing on making decisions, my stress level was minimal. Even in heavy traffic conditions, it kept me calm because I didn't care about people cutting me off.

I stayed in my lane, set with a max speed just over the speed limit, and when traffic was clear enough to go that speed, I did. When it wasn't, it handled braking and stopping for me.

So, I concur. I expect a Tesla is my next vehicle anyway, but every manufacturer should be rushing to integrate at least level 3 on as many vehicles as possible.

yeah why should your brain have to focus & make decisions while operating tons of steel at high speeds let the guy who made billions off of paypal(not a profit since but sime tax payer bailouts) & had to be shamed into suporting Teslas name before stealing it as if he was a genius do it ...

 

[duedadew]

really? youd trust an uber branded self driving car with your life?

That, and the backup driver, yeah. But then I trust other drivers not to kill me every time I get behind the wheel, and that's a hell of a lot worse.

uber isnt ahead because its a ponzi scam 80% of the rides dont cover drivers cost in 90% of markets its literally 80% slavery & if you didnt tip least $5 a ride and didn't go more than 7-10 miles your driver lost money.

if you don't get the same driver regularly theyre unmatching from you ; )

So what you're doing is taking my comment about a very specific thing that Uber does, and using as a launching point for every petty grievance you have with the company, completely ignoring what the discussion was about?

Yeah, great. I get it, you don't like Uber. Cool story.

Regardless of your personal feelings, Uber has had an actual program dropping customers off in Pittsburgh for over a year. Waymo is just now launching their own. While I'm prepared to accept that Waymo's tech is better, I think the article, in claiming that Waymo is "launching a self-driving car service before anyone else", isn't factually accurate. Uber did the same a year ago.

Whether you hate them or love them, they're one of the groups pushing the technology ahead, and it seems odd to claim that Google is the first to launch. Maybe the technology is so much better. But it doesn't sound like Ars has used the Uber service, so I'm just interested in why they don't seem to be considering it.

There may be a perfectly valid reason for that. Your spleen-venting about Uber, however, isn't that.

i love 20% of uber or the concept of it, the people running it are pure evil their actions shows that...


....Sufficiently advanced incompetence is indistinguishable from malice....

youre telling me a human adult actually thought a car only costs/depreciates $500 in a year of constant driving? they had to shutter theyre exchange predatory lease program because they miscalculated by 18.5 times????? wheres that in the new hire pamphlet why arent they shuttering the pool x tiers? theyll stop losing money themselves but theyll let drivers who use their own vehicles to take the loss? thats not a legit job


i hate slavery which 80% of uber Literally and technically IS. eventually a real journalist will get it out there, its not my profession....drivers lose money on every x or pool ride less than 7-10 miles depending on vehicle type to the point 96% of their work force fail and only 4% succeed more like a pyramid shape then a legit business...

just posting facts no one seems to care about since real human lives are being exploited nevermind the law suits, settlements for fraud, bait & switch, among other things cheap rides are cool i get it just ignore the fact these people are flushing money & people down the toilet at 41% of actual costs which is predatory if not evil well that is in a fair free market but oh well lifes hard but fair keep marching on people are now loss leaders i suppose

charging considerably below costs, paying a 1971 minimum fare, paying 1965-1985 wages in 2017....isnt pushing tech along it what maybe 1000 billionaires on the planet can do & your best interests are not their top priority there is a reason poor people don't have private drivers/chauffeurs, cabs arent meant to be taken daily on the vast majority of the planet

i could get lots if people to use my crack/pussy/meth sharing app too, with 13+ billion to burn and 6.5+ more million to lose daily its not rocket science it is disruptive though remember your driver got $2 in 2017 for what they did and he has a 96% chance at failure and their reward at the end of the year is a worthless car they couldn't afford to pass 2nd inspection but self driving cars in 2019 hahaha

 

[duedadew]

youre telling me a human adult actually thought a car only costs/depreciates $500 in a year of constant driving?

No, I'm telling you that none of your incoherent rants have anything to do with what I'm talking about. I'm going to add, based on this latest screed, that a properly trained monkey acting as a mime would do a better job of conveying your messages in a succinct and logical manner.

As I said, I get it--you don't like certain things. Cool story, bro.

ad hominem is ad hominem doesnt negate any facts that uber is 80% slavery.

i get it slave labor cool when its an app & since its in the app store must be legal who cares i get it a chauffeur at 41% of costs and fucking earth in the process who cares

i dont like evil or slavery, you do or dont really care world keeps spinning i dont try to decipher tone from text just posting real news not fantasy Jetsons paid advertising posing as a story that matters when the headlines should read how is uber legal when its 80% slavery

 

[duedadew]

murica ef yeah

uber IS 80% slavery

carry on