This is Rubio driving this.
He wants it as a feather in his cap if and when he runs for the presidency again.
He wants it as a feather in his cap if and when he runs for the presidency again.
War with…Venezuela?
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Do we need a general "War with...." at this point?
Near as I can tell, we've succeeded at a "regime change" once ever - Panama, and that was a situation where there was an elected government ready to take over and just needed Noriega removed from the situation. We've never succeeded in other situations where anything more than that was needed.
I disagree with those that assert that. They started the war, they lost decisively, then a large alliance of countries got them under agreement as to how to proceed.
Regime change should be defined here as a war entered into purely by choice with the started aim of changing a country's government.
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It would be interesting if Russia decided to step in to defend Cuba. Maybe ship some nuclear missiles there.
That's a typo. It'll be a Board of Piece. A cool billion gets you a piece of the action.
I think you meant that Trump's bored of peace.
Would this encompass all American dealings with Native peoples? The one that first popped into mind is the overthrow of the queen of Hawaii.
Russia couldn’t even pretend to defend Cuba, assuming they cared to in the first place. Realistically what will happen is more back room deals about spheres of influence; Russia gives up Cuba, and the US continues to screw Ukraine.
Wasn't there a Mel Brookes movie with Hitler singing about being a man of peace? E.g.
"a little piece of Poland..." Trumps board of peace is basically a King‘s club, reminiscent of pre WW1 Europe. We all know how that went.
The most ridiculous aspect is having to pay $1B to join the club, and then Trump can still kick you out afterwards (and the US member is not the President of the US, it's Trump personally only).
I feel like any regime change to a system where the affected territory has no real autonomy is a wholly different beast.
Waiting to see what Trump and the administration do in response to Venezuela's acting leader saying she's had enough of the US ordering her to do stuff.
Maybe time for another midnight excursion? Certainly seems to go against Trump's wishes for the country. Maybe with the opposition leader gifting her Nobel peace prize to Trump, there be some effort by the US to change the government?
Maybe time for another midnight excursion? Certainly seems to go against Trump's wishes for the country. Maybe with the opposition leader gifting her Nobel peace prize to Trump, there be some effort by the US to change the government?
We'll see. I tend to think he's "done" with Venezuela. That was weeks ago, the oil companies didn't thank him for their great and glorious windfall from his benevolence, and he's already flubbed his Greenland grab since then and now is getting blowback for Yet Another ICE Murder.
CNN: Paranoid, crazy-ass Maduro kept accusing nice-guy CIA of trying to overthrow him (in an article about the CIA's role in Maduro's overthrow):
https://archive.ph/2026.01.28-15445...venezuela-foothold#selection-2837.13-2841.159
It remains to be seen how the Venezuelan people will respond to a more overt CIA presence in the country post-Maduro. For years, Maduro cast the CIA as a convenient boogey man, repeatedly accusing the agency – without evidence – of attempting to topple his regime as he clung to power despite US opposition.
Now, the CIA has helped supplant Maduro and is poised to help actively manage the Trump administration’s dealings with Venezuela’s new leadership.
https://archive.ph/2026.01.28-15445...venezuela-foothold#selection-2837.13-2841.159
You really can't make this stuff up
IMHO, the seeming lack of any plans or concrete objectives regarding what to do next is the most worrying. Shades of "Mission Accomplished!" It's almost as if the US govt hadn't properly thought this through before pressing the
This mission is accomplished--Trump fulfilled his vendetta against Maduro, and stole some tankers of oil. He cares nothing for what happens in Venezuela now. That's a problem for future America.
The world literally revolves around Trump at this point... so as long as he's thinking of himself, it concerns the world right?
It’s weird they aren’t willing to discuss nuclear matters with Trump. Well, he DID tear up the last deal Iran made with the west about inspections and nuclear weapons development, but that can’t possibly be why?
I wonder if Trump even remembers he shit all over the treaty, or is he just perplexed why Iran isn’t very approachable right now? Oh, and the bombings of course.
Doesn't matter. "Deals" don't matter to Trump once they're made. Contracts are meaningless to him. Obligations, anathema. If he gets the itch then he can shit on you all over again to force you into making another "deal."
I think part of this is another aspect of narcissism: the pathological need to "win" something all the time. Like if you confront one with something they did wrong and you have them dead to rights on it they'll still absolutely need to argue some sort of victory out of it.
Trump probably feels like he needs an easy win after failing so hard recently.
Has anyone estimated what the total cost was for the Special Distraction Operation? The US had been building up a lot of military assets into the region for a pretty long time, and I expect a lot of that is still there (that wouldn't normally), still burning taxpayer money.
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Why insult dogs?
The real problem is that he's continually threatening the Iranian regime publicly. I take a personal affont to that since I'm the only country whose citizens are within range of 2000 remaining Iranian IRBMs + 1000 attack UAVs, all of which will be lobbed at civilian targets within 1-2 days and our air defense can't stop that density (the regime also has 1000 SRBMs, but they'll all be targeting US bases; all the Gulf states have made it clear they'e for appeasing Iran so their populations unlikely to be targeted. And Iran does not have missiles or UAVs capable of reaching the US or even Europe.
Venezuela stops shipping oil to Cuba, China, starts shipping oil to Israel:
Bloomberg: Venezuela Ships First Crude Cargo to Israel as Oil Exports Reopen After Maduro’s Ouster (archive link)
The deal is the latest sign of how the removal of Venezuelan president Maduro from office is routing flows of the country’s oil. Until then, much of the country’s output was sold in China. In the last month cargoes have been sold to buyers in India, Spain, the US and now Israel.
Bloomberg: Venezuela Ships First Crude Cargo to Israel as Oil Exports Reopen After Maduro’s Ouster (archive link)
This are the kind of stuff that I worry. This can trigger WWIII...
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