War never changes: A Fallout fan’s spoiler-laden review of the new TV series
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Or keeping the fusion core so close to his chest was just the right amount of radilation for the potion to transform him.
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He didn't know who Moldaver was specifically until he was taken in by the "govermint" boys. Then he saw the wanted poster of her. Then he most definitely wanted to speak to her in addition to collecting the bounty.
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He knew exactly who Moldaver was and always did. He was surprised by her appearance. The poster looked different than how he remembered her.
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Never mind that he last saw her 219 years ago. And probably wonders how she made it so long.
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Not a huge fan of the show. It's fine, I've seen worse. But I give it about a 7/10. Something about the cinematography and the overall tone of the show that makes it joyless and kind of a slog to get through an episode.
Glad you guys are enjoying it though!
Glad you guys are enjoying it though!
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Did he though? How would he if he's never seen her in the wastelands before?
As far as we know, he's only seen her at that Hollywoo meeting, and as I recall she isn't isn't introduced by name or at least not as Moldaver. I'm at work and can't rewatch that scene but I'm pretty sure.
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I thought maybe Moldaver was one of Bud's Buds, and that's how she got to the future; she was working against Vault-Tec from the inside after they bought out her company, and her research (though shelved) allowed her to reach a fairly high rank before the bombs dropped. She enlisted Coop to help her spy on Barb because she didn't have top-level access.
When they thawed her out for duty in the vault she took off for the surface instead, some time before Hank himself was activated, and became Moldaver. Just a theory.
When they thawed her out for duty in the vault she took off for the surface instead, some time before Hank himself was activated, and became Moldaver. Just a theory.
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That would explain why Hank didn’t freak out when he saw her (and the riot in 32). In theory, the only people who would be overseer would be people from 31. If she was in 31, and took 32 over, she could have started the conflict to get out but still hasn’t been nominally in charge of 32.
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You're coming at this from a perhaps logical, but still completely wrong direction. Literally none of this makes any difference whatsoever in terms of whether a character dies or not.
In real life, when someone is shot or injured, the nature of the wound and the care they receive is what determines their outcome.
In shows or movies, characters live, die, or are injured because the writers intend for them to live, die, or be injured - nothing else. The outcome is determined, and then the specifics of the show dictate the factors going in to it. In some shows, a character who the story needs to come out of a situation alive will have been wearing a bullet proof vest, in others, they might get shot in the leg and be walking around just fine but with a bloody bandage next episode. Someone who is intended to die will die by getting hit by a bus, falling into a well, getting shot in an ambiguous location, or clutching their chest and falling over.
All of it is set dressing, it's fiction. Enjoy it or don't, but there's literally no difference between a character getting a stim injection vs John Rambo digging out a bullet with his knife and cauterizing the wound with gunpowder.
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Unless it is just bad writing there are two things which makes me think he knew her as Moldaver. Maybe that was an alias we didn't see in the flashbacks but happened before the bombs fell or shortly after the bombs fell.
1) When the bounty hunters unearthed him and told him about the bounty he could care less that someone was running from the enclave but he seemed interested in the name Moldaver.
2) In the gumbermint office he didn't say "I knew her by another name" he said he "she looked different when he knew her". That would imply he knew that person and she went by Moldaver he just had no idea that she looked like the current photo now.
My assumption is the only reason he perused the bounty from the beginning was to get to Moldaver (same reason Lucy did). He was getting to Moldaver under the assumption (right or wrong) that she could lead him to his family. When Lucy mentioned her last name he gained a second reason to get to Moldaver. However given she is now dead and it is unlikely there is any further need to reveal her backstory we will probably never know.
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I was thinking that too the only weird thing is the last episode would have been a good time to reveal that. If she was going to live then hanging on to a few secrets might be useful for future season minor plotpoints but the writer would know that wouldn't happen. So why not reveal something? They revealed flashback but the only post-bomb ones were her meeting Rose & Lucy in Shady Sands. Also it would have been a good way for Hank to undermine her credibility "she abandoned her Vault Lucy" but he didn't.
As I said in the similar post above probably never going to know for sure now since she is dead.
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I mean, his wife was talking about getting into a “special vault for management” and we know what “management” means. Entirely possible we will get back to 31/32/33 and get some backstory there.
Plus, fiction magic means all deaths can be reversed. Gut wound, not head blown off. Kinda where Lucy got hurt, oddly enough.
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I had no intention of watching the series. Since its release, all I've heard is praise, and this coming from people who have never played a Fallout game.
That sold me, so I watched the 8 episodes on a lazy Saturday.
Damn. Two people did what the studio which owns the rights have not done in two games: make damn good Fallout.
I enjoyed the episodes so much, I watched them again the following weekend, glad to pick up on things I missed with the first viewing.
My expectations were shattered and I couldn't be more happy. Watching every episode build up to its conclusion was incredible.
I am very curious how they're going to handle New Vegas canon. The moment Lucy and Coop step into the Strip, canon is defined.
Will Mr. House still live? Control the Strip? Or will they take the safe approach and turn it into the desolate and abandoned city with no real explanation of its failing which the preview looks to have given us.
I can't be the only one who noticed the tower isn't lighting up the area during sunset as it does in the game.
Or that McCarran is gone.
That sold me, so I watched the 8 episodes on a lazy Saturday.
Damn. Two people did what the studio which owns the rights have not done in two games: make damn good Fallout.
I enjoyed the episodes so much, I watched them again the following weekend, glad to pick up on things I missed with the first viewing.
My expectations were shattered and I couldn't be more happy. Watching every episode build up to its conclusion was incredible.
I am very curious how they're going to handle New Vegas canon. The moment Lucy and Coop step into the Strip, canon is defined.
Will Mr. House still live? Control the Strip? Or will they take the safe approach and turn it into the desolate and abandoned city with no real explanation of its failing which the preview looks to have given us.
I can't be the only one who noticed the tower isn't lighting up the area during sunset as it does in the game.
Or that McCarran is gone.
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Mr House or at least the human who eventually became Mr. House is in the secret meeting at VaultTec. One thing about games is they can have multiple endings but a show/movie can only have one. So even if they are faithful to the lore they have to pick one. My assumption is the House wins ending of New Vegas becomes canonical. Similar to Shady Sands flourishing in Fallout 1/2 endings are canonical because we know it did flourish right up until it got nuked. Now whatever happened after the end of F:NV is an open book.
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My bet is for an ending with bad karma, independent New Vegas, Mr. House killed and Securitrons not upgraded.
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Hmm that is possible too. Had forgot that ending. Without House or NCR eventually New Vegas fails at some point between those events and current day in the series.
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Oh I saw a lot of those side quests, but they never really explained what Vault-Tec actually hoped to accomplish by doing all of these obviously bad experiments that maybe started out trying to test something meaningful but got lethally dumbed down along the way. This instead laid out that there never was a coherent method and it was just executives playing god with really terrible ideas in an attempt to try different approaches to see which produced the "best" outcome.
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There's been speculation that it's all supposed to be leading to trying to create a "perfect" Vault (or sometimes space colony/ship). E.g. 111 would be a prototype for extended cryo sleep, 108 testing clone stability, 112 testing simulation while in cryo, etc.
The original intent hypothesized to be to destructively test vault dwellers, so that the people in the real Vault/colony/whatever can have the best possible conditions. The vaults all go wrong, though, because Fallout has a decidedly nihilistic flare.
It kinda fits, but it's purely speculation.
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Possibly, but if they continue in S2 to incorporate flashbacks to fill in backstory, we might see her again.
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I need to fire up FNV and do some analysis with the shot of NV at the end of S8. Probably by finding high ground to line up the same angle on the city.
It should be possible to determine what the 2 towns visible outside of NV are or any others.
We had smoke, signifying occupation of small towns and NV.
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Having my 64 year old mother calling me up every day to clarify bits of Fallout lore and tech is pretty funny. She loves the show, but she’s always been a fan of gore.
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Apparently the show is too "woke" because Bethesda and Amazon attacks capitalism and America, and everyone knows the real Fallout was never about that. /s
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Ugh, was that the gist of the "review"? When I saw it was someone literally droning, in the most punchable voice imaginable, for an hour and a half, I stopped watching (about 30 seconds in).
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No, I had the misfortune of being served a video on Youtube with that message because, obviously, if you indicate interest in a subject by viewing one video, one must be utterly obsessed with the subject to the exclusion of everything else. I have a lot of "Fallout series is woke" in my Youtube-feed at the moment.
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Previously I'd only "finished" New Vegas and FO4 (and Brotherhood of Steel on console for what it's worth) but have now decided to complete all the games from the beginning. Almost done with Fallout 1 so far.
It's a complicated experience, but I will say that I am genuinely impressed by how many themes and elements were present from the very beginning, despite multiple companies and artists helming the franchise. Pretty amazing really, how consistent it is.
It's a complicated experience, but I will say that I am genuinely impressed by how many themes and elements were present from the very beginning, despite multiple companies and artists helming the franchise. Pretty amazing really, how consistent it is.
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