UMass disbands its entering biomed graduate class over Trump funding chaos
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Working as intended for the know-nothing anti-vaxx/anti-smarty crowd. Starve the experts and soon there will be no experts.
This timeline sucks way more than I thought it would. I need extraction, timelords. Forthwith.
This timeline sucks way more than I thought it would. I need extraction, timelords. Forthwith.
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My sister's an American alum from McGill. Fantastic school, but pretty hard to get into from what I hear.
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Unlike con man Sam Altman's whining about having to pay for copyrighted content, this really is a national security issue.
If all the research moves outside the US, we eventually end up like Russia's mostly imaginary space program years or decades behind the countries that still fund research.
If all the research moves outside the US, we eventually end up like Russia's mostly imaginary space program years or decades behind the countries that still fund research.
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Remember, none of these funding cuts, even taken all together, would make even a tiny dent in either our deficit or debt. This simply isn't a major driver of our deficits.
So all of this, destroying research pipelines for a generation, isn't even for any greater purpose than vandalism and a desire by some of the most ignorant and immature leaders this country has ever had to harm anyone who makes them feel insecure.
So all of this, destroying research pipelines for a generation, isn't even for any greater purpose than vandalism and a desire by some of the most ignorant and immature leaders this country has ever had to harm anyone who makes them feel insecure.
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And I settled here for my kids thinking the post secondary was that much better than Canada. Guess we better go back!
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Unfortunately Canadian schools haven't yet created more spots for US students.
If our advanced ed. ministers across the provinces are smart they'll immediately dump a chunk of change into recruiting US professors and opening up more seats for international students.
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Oh no, you misunderstand, aerospace was one of Russia's few scientific successes. They've contributed virtually nothing to biomedical sciences at all, thanks to Stalin and Lysenko.
That's where we're headed. You're far too optimistic. Biomedical science is hard. Like, seriously, most of the Standard Model was worked out before we fully understood how RNA works. Newton was centuries ahead of Darwin, who was only a generation ahead of Einstein and Maxwell. We'll still have working physics and chemistry programs long after we've lost all biomedical research infrastructure.
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Clearly that's what was holding America back: too many scientists! /s
The worst part is knowing that some people actually believe its true. While many others might say, "Oh we want scientists but we can't afford it" to me that's more or less the same thing.
If you want something but refuse to provide the resources to make it happen do you really want it all that badly? If a farmer wants a field of wheat but doesn't buy seed, fertilize, or water I think it's fair to ask: do they really even want it? Because it sounds like wishful thinking at best.
The worst part is knowing that some people actually believe its true. While many others might say, "Oh we want scientists but we can't afford it" to me that's more or less the same thing.
If you want something but refuse to provide the resources to make it happen do you really want it all that badly? If a farmer wants a field of wheat but doesn't buy seed, fertilize, or water I think it's fair to ask: do they really even want it? Because it sounds like wishful thinking at best.
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I'm sure other countries, such as China, will happily take up the slack and reap the economic benefits of having their institutions owning the IP / patents that such research can lead to that would have otherwise been held by US institutions if not for the big orange senile dumbass and crew.
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For Russian space program I meant under Putin not in its glory days.
Even if poor Laika never made it home they started off ahead of us and were strong competition for the longest time. After the shuttles ended service they were the ones keeping the ISS going.
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Western Europe, Israel, Japan, and South Korea combined would have difficulty matching our resources alone, but it might be possible with some serious budget-shifting.
But there would be major gaps: Europe lags behind in genetic engineering, for example, and I don't think there's any replacement for the USA when it comes to psychiatry at all.
Without the APA we'd still be stuck with Freud's just-so fables and cocaine-induced manic rants. And believe me, Freud's ideas are still very popular around the world, which is why the DSM is preferred to the WHO's ICD for this one specialty only.
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Fools! The American Free Market is so powerful that it will simply manifest any research needed to fill the gaps! Venture capitalists shall descend from their towers of concrete and glass, and prophesy exactly what South European Swallowback Snail contains the compound that holds the key to curing cancer! Private equity shall harness the latent and exigent unbound genius inherent to the CEO to blaze a brighter path than a thousand dedicated and carefully trained experts! Rejoice!
/s, in case that somehow didn't peg your meter.
/s, in case that somehow didn't peg your meter.
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Was it Russia that had lots of aerospace successes or was it mostly Ukraine when it was still a part of the USSR?
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It's going to be hard for the provinces to find the money to hire US professors. Canadian universities have been underfunded for many years, and they've been filling the gaps by recruiting more international students for their full-freight tuition fees. Now the flow of international students (and their tuition money) has been sharply cut back due to concerns about lack of housing. Add to that some financial strains to governments due to the Canada-US trade war and economic stagnation. Canadian universities are cutting back, not growing.
I'd love to see more money for Canadian universities, but that's not at the top of any government's priorities list here right now.
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yes, and what is the main branch of the government driving the deficit? Why are people so reluctant to call out the US military?
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Any American State that is willing, Canada will annex you if you'd like. You will enjoy better health, longer life, higher average happiness, greater international respect, and an increase in personal freedom!
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Here's more info: https://www.wgbh.org/news/education...ssions-citing-funding-uncertainty-under-trump
This is due to capping the indirect research costs at 15% of the grant.
This is due to capping the indirect research costs at 15% of the grant.
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I thought Elon Musk would at least have a little regard for science (given his fascination with rockets, brain chips, etc). Why is he so keen to decimate science in this country?
And it's not like this is the first time. Why did he hate the COVID vaccine? Isn't he a fan of cutting-edge scientific solutions to modern problems? That's exactly what mRNA vaccines were. Instead, he wanted Anthony Fauci prosecuted?
And it's not like this is the first time. Why did he hate the COVID vaccine? Isn't he a fan of cutting-edge scientific solutions to modern problems? That's exactly what mRNA vaccines were. Instead, he wanted Anthony Fauci prosecuted?
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That means the scheme against education is working. The schools making cuts now take a big reputation hit. The schools that don't are risking an even worse hit by dropping funding in the middle of programs when the almost-certain reality kicks in. Plus, of course, how hard it'll be to convince anyone anywhere to uproot part of their life for the international students usually coming in. A decade of impact before schools start to risk needing closing buildings...
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Because he never had respect for science. He's a high-finance charlatan.
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Where in the 7 hells would have gotten that idea in the 1st place!?
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These are science grad students. They don't pay tuition- indeed, they're paid. (Poorly, but still)
I'm guessing you didn't know this since you have no experience whatsoever with research in higher ed.
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Aren't foreign students having an incredibly hard time finding housing and support for housing at Canadian universities at the moment?
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Cue Pink Floyd.
We don't need no education! /s
Seriously, I'm still failing to absorb just how much the next four years are going to suck for everybody, and how long it's going to take to recover, if the US is even left in a recoverable condition.
We don't need no education! /s
Seriously, I'm still failing to absorb just how much the next four years are going to suck for everybody, and how long it's going to take to recover, if the US is even left in a recoverable condition.
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Interestingly here in Canada we've recently reduced the caps on the number of international students at our universities. Mainly it's to cut down on the pressures on housing and health-care. The universities are of course struggling with the reduced income, but it's all a double-edged sword.
In theory we could make some exceptions and let your future scientists come over here, but... well... we need the smart Americans to say there, to vote.
In theory we could make some exceptions and let your future scientists come over here, but... well... we need the smart Americans to say there, to vote.
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Physician heal thyself. Sorry if it offends but I don't think the US is the best model for embedding sanity within the general population.
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as bad as the American housing market has been for the past few years, Canada's has somehow been even worseAren't foreign students having an incredibly hard time finding housing and support for housing at Canadian universities at the moment?
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Students in biomedical fields are typically paid a "living stipend." I.e. it is not a salary, but is supposed to be enough to provide cost of living while they attend grad school. I don't know the numbers, but I hope it is more adequate that it was in my day.
The government funds many of these programs because it was deemed in the national interest to educate young scientists.
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