Trump pacifies anti-vaccine allies by trashing shots alongside Tylenol

Oldnoobguy

Ars Tribunus Militum
2,177
Subscriptor
Every day ends with me asking, How can Trump and MAGA get any dumber? And every following day they effortlessly do something dumber. If stupidity had any density, the US would have disappeared into a singularity by the end of the summer. I can't even imagine what they will do next year. Most likely indoor plumbing will be under attack next for causing autism.
 
Upvote
17 (17 / 0)

adpenner@tpn

Ars Scholae Palatinae
987
Subscriptor
I think most people would recognize the word, but may trip up on pronouncing it. Even if you know it, most people have no reason to say it. Trump seemed extremely self-aware of the fact he was about to trip himself up on the word. This part just doesn't make me worry about him, and shouldn't make anyone worry about him.

It's like making fun of the man for his weight. It is not the right thing to do.

There are plenty of legitimate things to be worried about with his speech, including the fact that it often makes no sense. The fact it can be described as word salad is front and center. There have also been other incidents, like where he's slured an extended passage of text.
I would never make fun of Trump for his weight, but I will absolutely lambaste his physician for his glowing pronouncement and declaring Trump is in ‘great’ shape despite his diet and obvious obesity.
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/trump-...hief and Head of State," Barbabella concluded.
Yes, that was in April, but he wasn’t significantly healthier then than he is now.
 
Upvote
17 (17 / 0)
Post content hidden for low score. Show…

Bernardo Verda

Ars Legatus Legionis
13,005
Subscriptor++
Compared to 3, yup. It's a big number. Compared to the original claim, here, 17, 72 is large.

Effectiveness of vaccination programs has never been the target of anti-vax theology. It's always been directed at the content of said vaccinations. They come with preservatives, stabilizers, and other such fun things to allow them to be shelf-stable for months or longer with proper care. Without those chemicals the vaccination vials don't last. 10 days? 20 days maybe?

So, it's a tradeoff. Stabilizer and preservative crap, and their ensuing consequences or nobody gets dosed. The problem with both sides is they want to lampoon the other, and make disingenuous arguments.

How about we all agree that the additives are problematic at best, and at worst can cause problems no one wants. Maybe try to figure out a way to reduce or even eliminate these unwanted additives.

How about we just look at the scientific evidence instead?

And when it turns out (as it already has) repeatedly and reliably, that this just isn't an actual concern in real life (rather than in grifters' dire imaginations), how about we call it a day -- and concentrate our efforts on getting our children properly vaccinated against the deadly but preventable diseases that only a century ago reliably killed off the majority of our children?

Sound like a plan?

Does to me.
 
Upvote
38 (38 / 0)

Vnend

Ars Scholae Palatinae
904
Subscriptor++
How about we all agree that the additives are problematic at best, and at worst can cause problems no one wants. Maybe try to figure out a way to reduce or even eliminate these unwanted additives.

I've got a better idea. Why don't you and the rest of your doubting cabal do the research to confirm if the question you claim to be asking hasn't already been answered. Check the published research results from, say, 1960 to 2023, looking to see if someone didn't already ask that question for each of the additives that you suspect are problematic, and publish the results.

If some subset of the additives were, in fact as opposed to supposition, never tested to ensure that they were safe in a way consistant with vaccine usage, then you get to run a series of trials to determine if they do pose a danger. And then publish the results; in a journal if you do a good job, on your own dime if you cut too many corners to get it published outside of fringe vaccine denial rants.

See you in a 'few' years time, and thank you for making the world a better place with your time, as opposed to spending your time simply repeating, 'But, what about...' over and over again.
 
Upvote
35 (35 / 0)

Efw100

Wise, Aged Ars Veteran
123
Subscriptor
Not blacklisted in Germany. I recently bought some generic paracetamol (known in USA as acetaminophen, active ingredient in Tylenol) at the pharmacy without a prescription or any fuss. It's true that the risk profile would make it harder to bring to market today but can't unring that sailed ship back into the genie's lamp.
It’s available in supermarkets in the UK, calpol is a brand of liquid paracetamol for infants also available everywhere which highly popular and most parents would have a bottle

I’ve no idea what the black label comment is about
 
Upvote
11 (11 / 0)
If a sane party ever manages to take back control of the US they're going to have such a hard time undoing the mess these morons are causing in a few short years... Trying to get people to understand that what was said earlier was bullcrap is much harder than convincing people of the bullcrap when that's the first thing they hear about it. So much misinformation and nonsense is going to linger around in the minds of so many people because of these loons...
 
Upvote
9 (9 / 0)

Lux Starbright

Smack-Fu Master, in training
33
What in the world, is everyone on drugs? Do most people not realize how insane this situation is? How can a crazy person like that still be president? How can he have totally imbecilic superstitious conspiracy nuts as part of the government?

How did the world get so crazy and why does no one seem to want to stop this? Besides railing against it online like me? (as impotent a gesture as this text)
I hope if something like this happened in my country a majority of people would rise up against it and demand a reelection.

Likelihood is though that we are just as moronic here as in the US.

Democracy can't be this stupid, there have to be safeguards against idiocy on this level.
 
Upvote
16 (16 / 0)
Irony of all ironies, it (item 1) was almost certainly Operation Warp Speed.
To be accurate it happened despite of Trump's efforts to undermine it with his constand deluge of brain dead propaganda on Fox And Fiends.The orange pig spent more time blaming everyone but himself for his mismanagement of the pandemic. Let us not forget how he undermined and slandered former DHS head, Dr. Faucci on the media and the vaccine itself. (Remember the "Faucci ouchie"?)

The only reason the operation succeeded was due to the pharma industry's work alongside all the government officials that knew what to do and how when the government still had them to keep Trump's destructive nonsense under control. Now we live in a time where such an outbreak will be handled by Brain parasite clown and the Orange swine with a gaggle of sub par yes men only. The guardrails are completely gone.
 
Upvote
15 (15 / 0)

bebu

Ars Scholae Palatinae
956
It’s available in supermarkets in the UK, calpol is a brand of liquid paracetamol for infants also available everywhere which highly popular and most parents would have a bottle

I’ve no idea what the black label comment is about
AU this year mandated the maximum contents of a blister pack of 500mg paracetamol tabs is 50 down from 100. Not that you cannot buy more than one carton — I purchased three 100 packs just as those packs were being withdrawn. This is for sales from a pharmacy.

I think the max. size pack in a supermarket is now 15 — not that I have had any recent need to purchase any. :)

The rationale was the incidence of paracetamol overdose in self harming teens (predominantly female) was rising. Not the nicest way to go; I can only imagine Amanita phalloides (death cap) poisoning could be worse.
 
Upvote
8 (8 / 0)

JoHBE

Ars Praefectus
4,132
Subscriptor++
I think Murica honestly deserves a Darwin Award Nomination.

The IgNobel missed a trick, here... Would have been awesome if they would have invited Trump to receive a Darwin award. He probably would have beamed like rarely before. Not a single sycophant around him would have the guts to tell him what was really going on, and he would just enjoy it like the toddler he is.
 
Upvote
1 (1 / 0)

ScifiGeek

Ars Legatus Legionis
18,968
The IgNobel missed a trick, here... Would have been awesome if they would have invited Trump to receive a Darwin award. He probably would have beamed like rarely before. Not a single sycophant around him would have the guts to tell him what was really going on, and he would just enjoy it like the toddler he is.

Trump's been saying he deserves the Peace prize.

They could give him an IgNobel Peace prize, for his "brilliant" plan to end the war in Gaza, by expelling all the Palestinians, and build Trump Casinos there...
 
Upvote
9 (9 / 0)

launcap

Ars Tribunus Militum
1,778
It might be hard to stop it from being a free-for-all, but it would be great to see a similar civil mechanism for punishing egregious abuse by a public official. The behavior we are seeing out of many of his swamp denizens exceeds the everyday corruption and heinous fuckery I was expecting, and I expected it to be bad.

Civilised jurisdictions do - the UK has a specific offense of "misconduct in a public office". Quite a number of police have been dismissed for something that doesn't breach a specific threshold for criminal action using it.

Basically, any public employee (including police, fire, military and MPs) can be prosecuted under the statute.
 
Upvote
9 (9 / 0)

The Lurker Beneath

Ars Tribunus Militum
6,636
Subscriptor
A bunch of really obnoxious people are about to make not using tylenol a core part of their identity, aren't they?

Can't say I had that on my bingo card, at least these goofballs are keeping it unpredictable.

Well, avoiding tylenol won't hurt you. I avoid it myself - my liver enzymes are reserved for the good stuff.

On the other hand, we have...

Pregnant Women Post Series of Tylenol Videos in Defiance of Trump

I hope they're careful. Consumption of Tylenol in excessive amounts is much more dangerous than excessive consumption of horse paste, of which I assume people also made videos in the day.
 
Last edited:
Upvote
3 (3 / 0)

launcap

Ars Tribunus Militum
1,778
I'm pretty sure that's how I got the smallpox vaccine (the scar is still barely visible on my shoulder) but I don't remember that one.

Every child (*) in the UK gets the BCG vacciene (against TB) at about age 12. Boys get it on the shoulder muscle of their non-dominant arm (mine is on my left shoulder) and girls get it on the back of the arm by the shoulder so that it isn't easily visible. Just leaves a small dimpled scar about 15mm across.

Or at least, that's how they did it in the mid 1970s.

(*) You get a scratch test first to see if you already have the antibodies - if you react to the scratch test, you don't need the vacciene since your body is already producing antibodies.
 
Upvote
3 (3 / 0)

bebu

Ars Scholae Palatinae
956
Lately it seems like people are using "metric" just as an intensifier for "ton". I heard it from somebody on TV or a Zoom call just the other day.

A metric ton is smaller than a conventional ton, if I remember my Wikipedia right. But saying "a ton" just doesn't have the ring of "metric ton", does it!

Fun facts for fellow freethinkers!
I would be equally content to be permitted to drop any of a short (US) ton, tonne or long (Imperial) ton of bricks in these prats. Or cast 160 stone of stones.

"metric" just as an intensifier — the place is overrun with metric imbecility.

Presumably the mononeuronal maga conflated "metric" with "meretricious" which is a far more accurate description of this administration particularly in its archaic sense.
 
Upvote
0 (0 / 0)

launcap

Ars Tribunus Militum
1,778
I mean, great for calling out the liquids, but why is Trump and co ignoring the scourge of CHEMICALS?!?!?!

I had a colleague that was very proud that she never took "chemicals" (by which she meant actualy theraputic drugs that had been through multiple clinical trials before being made available) but instead relied on 'natural' suppliments from the health food shop..

I did try to explain that they were "chemicals" too [1] - most likely made in a factory somewhere that isn't required to adhere to the medicines safety laws but her mind was tighter closed than Count Draculas coffin and high noon..

[1] Even the homeopathic ones being, essentially, sugar pills. After all, sugar is a "chemical"
 
Upvote
9 (9 / 0)

launcap

Ars Tribunus Militum
1,778
As they say in Russia "and then it got worse"

There's a very good Russian (living in exile) prog rock group called Iamthemorning - they are very entertaining in concert with the between-song chats, explaining the Russian world viewpoint:

"We realised that our first album was dark and depressing so we thought "not dark and depressing enough!".
 
Last edited:
Upvote
4 (4 / 0)

launcap

Ars Tribunus Militum
1,778
Biggest problem, at least in Denmark, is (maybe was) depressed teenagers that tries to commit suicide using paracetamol, which is why we limit packages to 10 when bought OTC in grocery stores.

Maximum OTC packet size for OTC paracetamol is 16 500mg tablets and you can only buy one packet at a time (he says, looking at the OTC packet in front of him). Doesn't stop someone from going to another shop to get more but that requires planning and, hopefully, will make the instant desire to die fade.

Enough to make you ill (if you are relatively healthy) but not enough to kill.
 
Upvote
4 (4 / 0)

launcap

Ars Tribunus Militum
1,778
I'll have you knew, my fiance is a charge nurse in a postpartum-antepartum ward. They do NOT use blow darts. They are issued assault dart guns with extended magazines and select fire. She confidently assured me, they hose down the nursey periodically with suppressing fire.

[Nods]

Saw those in a nature documentary about vaccinating herds of elephants. I assume it was one of those?
 
Upvote
0 (0 / 0)

launcap

Ars Tribunus Militum
1,778
So is Johnnie Walker
black-750ml_overviewhero_desktop.webp

Proper whiskies are available:

https://www.englishwhisky.co.uk/products/the-english-sherry-cask-matured?variant=46498106802452
 
Upvote
-6 (1 / -7)

launcap

Ars Tribunus Militum
1,778
I never take Tylenol. When I need pain relief I take one Ibuprofen (200 mg) and it's more effective.

Well - I guess you've never had gastic issues and are not T2 diabetic..

(Yes - I do sometimes have to take one ibuprofen and codeine tablet but I have to take it with plenty of milk or risk having the runs for the next two days. And thats even with taking esomeprazole..)

My regular prescribed painkiller is Co-codamol 30/500 (30mg codeine, 500 mg paracetamol, no more than 8/day)
 
Upvote
7 (7 / 0)