Trump canceled AI safety testing EO after snub from tech CEOs

MilanKraft

Ars Tribunus Angusticlavius
6,963
President Donald P. (Petulant) Trump strikes again.

"Oh, woe is me! These jerky CEOs just do not appreciate me enough. Now some will not jet here on 18 hours notice so they can do nothing while standing behind me as I sign my 177th EO this year, in my super-impactful Duplo Block-sized hand-writing. Don't they see what a 'stable genius' I am?? I guess I'll have to cancel without warning to show who's boss."
 
Upvote
60 (60 / 0)

thelee

Ars Tribunus Militum
1,915
Subscriptor
I wonder who is actually crafting our AI policy such that it is, because I'm 100% sure it's not Trump. He's far too preoccupied with his ballroom and arch, plus he's an idiot who is unwilling and unable to learn anything. So who is in charge of this?
despite the denials it certainly seems like a level of government capture by Musk and other oligarchs, it's just that they're not in 100% agreement here so it comes out looking chaotic.
 
Upvote
36 (36 / 0)

cleek

Ars Scholae Palatinae
1,183
That's feckless incompetence even by his usual low standards. I just do not understand how anyone looks at this and is like "oh yeah, feel the great national renewal!"

Republicanism has one principle: be seen opposing Democrats in all things, always.

that's it.

everything else is decoration. every other 'principle' is negotiable.

so, Trump makes a big WWF-style show of opposing Democrats, and his idiot followers love it.
 
Upvote
48 (49 / -1)

sword_9mm

Ars Legatus Legionis
26,051
Subscriptor
That's feckless incompetence even by his usual low standards. I just do not understand how anyone looks at this and is like "oh yeah, feel the great national renewal!"

They see those ICE assholes grabbing people off the streets and sit back in their ratty recliners with their Bud Light and smile.

Add some fealty to rich people (an American Tradition) and some good ol' woman hatin' to the mix.

That's what they wanted.
 
Upvote
38 (39 / -1)

TheShark

Ars Praefectus
3,120
Subscriptor
despite the denials it certainly seems like a level of government capture by Musk and other oligarchs, it's just that they're not in 100% agreement here so it comes out looking chaotic.
Yeah I expect the answer to my question is "whoever talked to Trump on the phone last"
 
Upvote
31 (31 / 0)
I wonder who is actually crafting our AI policy such that it is, because I'm 100% sure it's not Trump. He's far too preoccupied with his ballroom and arch, plus he's an idiot who is unwilling and unable to learn anything. So who is in charge of this?
This is America, so you don't have to wonder at all. The industry being regulated? Yeah, they wrote the policy.
 
Upvote
19 (20 / -1)
I wonder who is actually crafting our AI policy such that it is, because I'm 100% sure it's not Trump. He's far too preoccupied with his ballroom and arch, plus he's an idiot who is unwilling and unable to learn anything. So who is in charge of this?
Stephen Miller and/or Russ Vought are the usual culprits on most of the EOs, but it's not clear if this is an issue either of them cares that much about. Vance maybe? He seems the most connected in that sphere, along with Uday and Qusay.
 
Upvote
18 (18 / 0)

Scifigod

Ars Tribunus Angusticlavius
8,797
Subscriptor++
Trump told reporters that he decided against signing the order because he “didn’t like certain aspects of it.” He offered no further details
I won't ever expect an answer but then a) who wrote this and b) why did you make a big announcement about signing it then? Are you just signing whatever is handed to you and learning about it after the fact.
 
Upvote
25 (25 / 0)

TheManIsANobody

Ars Scholae Palatinae
742
Subscriptor++
Anytime billionaires hear “no”, it’s an innovation blocker of the greatest possible transgression. They’d happily sit back and endorse bringing back slavery to make themselves wealthier. Being told “no, you have to pay your employees” is an annotation blocker to them. I wonder if these people actually realize they’re single handedly causing people to turn on capitalism. It’s probably why they’re trying to hard to build out the virtual panopticon. We’re all just cattle for them. It’s disgusting
 
Upvote
16 (16 / 0)

balthazarr

Ars Tribunus Angusticlavius
6,915
Subscriptor++
Stephen Miller and/or Russ Vought are the usual culprits on most of the EOs, but it's not clear if this is an issue either of them cares that much about. Vance maybe? He seems the most connected in that sphere, along with Uday and Qusay.
Ah, yes, subject matter experts all. :rolleyes:

Par for the course with this (mal)Administration.
 
Upvote
5 (6 / -1)

graylshaped

Ars Legatus Legionis
68,330
Subscriptor++
The EO’s goal, the NYT reported, was “for the government to identify any security vulnerabilities revealed by AI models and to patch problems in its systems to help protect banks, utilities, and other sensitive industries from cyberattacks.”
This is utter bullshit from the administration. The entire purpose is to give Trump cronies early visibility and insider knowledge.
 
Upvote
17 (17 / 0)

balthazarr

Ars Tribunus Angusticlavius
6,915
Subscriptor++
Yeah, because Musk and Altman are totally going to be within 100 yards of each other.

When did signing laws become this big dog-and-pony-show? Does his ego REALLY need hourly stroking?
Did you really just ask that? Really? Of course it does, but not hourly – constantly.
 
Upvote
20 (20 / 0)

atomic.banjo

Ars Scholae Palatinae
649
Subscriptor++
So let's say this EO were to get signed. Who is going to evaluate the models? I assure you there is no one in this admin qualified. Do they just let Barron give it some prompts?

I realize this is a pointless question given the current environment, but one still wonders how this is supposed to work.
 
Upvote
9 (9 / 0)

atomic.banjo

Ars Scholae Palatinae
649
Subscriptor++
Yeah, because Musk and Altman are totally going to be within 100 yards of each other.

When did signing laws become this big dog-and-pony-show? Does his ego REALLY need hourly stroking?
It's not a law; those used to be passed by Congress. This is just an imperial proclamation, and yes the idiot emperor does indeed need constant attention.
 
Upvote
15 (15 / 0)
I wonder if these people actually realize they’re single handedly causing people to turn on capitalism.
That's definitely the goal. Libertarians and people cosplaying as libertarians have spent years (maybe decades? centuries?) trying to convince people that what we have now isn't capitalism: "this is corporatism [sic], not capitalism" etc etc. They need people to reject actual capitalism so they can implement total technofeudalism while calling it "capitalism".
We’re all just cattle for them. It’s disgusting
Attack on Titan did a good job of showing what happens when people get tired of being cattle
 
Upvote
4 (6 / -2)

sword_9mm

Ars Legatus Legionis
26,051
Subscriptor
Somehow, I've come to the conclusion the U.S. will never be great again.

Unless "great" is defined as how absolutely shitty the country was for all of its citizens between 1929 and 1941, or it's non-white, non-male citizens between 1776 (hell, 1607) and today.

Again?

It was never great. It started with oligarchs that owned people.

The country was trash day 1.
 
Upvote
4 (5 / -1)

JoHBE

Ars Praefectus
4,338
Subscriptor++
"“I think it gets in the way of—you know, we’re leading China, we’re leading everybody, and I don’t want to do anything that’s going to get in the way of that lead,” Trump said"

We survived nuclear MAD Armageddon because leaders had functional brains. Something tells me we might not be that lucky this time around...
 
Upvote
11 (12 / -1)
Again?

It was never great. It started with oligarchs that owned people.

The country was trash day 1.
Yeah, that's pretty much what I implied.

Although the country has <mostly> sucked ass from the get-go for anyone not white, male and rich, we've had our moments. Also, although it doesn't seem like it because the assholes get all the attention (yes, there are many assholes), most of the people that live in the U.S. are pretty great.
 
Upvote
0 (1 / -1)
Giving too much power to the govt over AI is not a good idea. When someone like the dotard is in power, he will require kickbacks and targeting his opponents. When a democrat is in power the AI will have to pass some crazy pronoun test or an interview with Bernie trying to get a phone to say it wants to kill humans.

Sadly the govt is past the point of being able to regulate this without creating new outsized dangers.
 
Upvote
-6 (0 / -6)

anachronon

Ars Centurion
243
Subscriptor++
So let's say this EO were to get signed. Who is going to evaluate the models? I assure you there is no one in this admin qualified. Do they just let Barron give it some prompts?

I realize this is a pointless question given the current environment, but one still wonders how this is supposed to work.
LOL! "Do they just let Barron give it some prompts?" Priceless and insightful.
 
Upvote
0 (0 / 0)
President Donald P. (Petulant) Trump strikes again.

"Oh, woe is me! These jerky CEOs just do not appreciate me enough. Now some will not jet here on 18 hours notice so they can do nothing while standing behind me as I sign my 177th EO this year, in my super-impactful Duplo Block-sized hand-writing. Don't they see what a 'stable genius' I am?? I guess I'll have to cancel without warning to show who's boss."
you forgot the part where someone else will speak and Taco will just nod off for a nap
 
Upvote
2 (2 / 0)
"“I think it gets in the way of—you know, we’re leading China, we’re leading everybody, and I don’t want to do anything that’s going to get in the way of that lead,” Trump said"

We survived nuclear MAD Armageddon because leaders had functional brains. Something tells me we might not be that lucky this time around...
I imagine plenty of his followers think it would be a big, strong move to fire off a nuke.
 
Upvote
2 (2 / 0)