Trump’s AI executive order may not prevent dangerous deployments

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Super King

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I always keep it close at hand 😎
 
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The worst part?

Even if the USA gets rid of this gang of failed podcasters and crappy TV stars in the executive...the Brain Trust that made everything work is done and gone. And even if sanity comes back--those workers aren't coming back. The social contract, which was the reason most SMEs in government stayed there and didn't take a pay raise to work private--is broken. And that rupture will take a working lifetime to heal.
 
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JoHBE

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Trump’s EO claimed would “ensure that the best and most secure technology is deployed rapidly to confront any and all threats to our country.”
Because it's not within the abilities of this Administration to release a statement that DOESN'T bleed fascism out of all its pores...
 
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poltroon

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You can't do deterministic testing of a non-deterministic system. If you need 0% failure these systems can't do that. The only way to use them safely in a high risk environment is to aggressively sandbox them so that there is no permission risk because they're gated by deterministic systems.

The state of the art advice for these agents is that you should be writing new tests every single week in production, to catch new and previously unexpected behaviors.
 
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All his EOs are not worth the paper they're printed on (and that fountain pen ink he talks about).
We wish that were the case, but even if they're bullshit enough people just follow them anyway that they unfortunately have an awful lot of power.

It's not great!
 
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Luckily gutting your supply of expertise only impedes testing if you plan to do it seriously; or if you don't want to overpay your failson's buddy's contracting shop to do.

If the plan is just to poke it a couple of times to test for wokeness and see if the vendor will provide a...facilitating donation...then you have considerably more flexibility.
 
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Luckily gutting your supply of expertise only impedes testing if you plan to do it seriously; or if you don't want to overpay your failson's buddy's contracting shop to do.

If the plan is just to poke it a couple of times to test for wokeness and see if the vendor will provide a...facilitating donation...then you have considerably more flexibility.

Hey, don't forget grift. Pay attention to who is paid to provide these certifications. And then look at who they donate to.
 
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Sphex

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'promises not “to stifle this innovation with overly burdensome regulation”' are the fundamental cause of the reduction of the USA. Civilised society thrives on regulation, the only means short of revolution by which overweening power can be held in check.
My understanding from media reports is that this particular administration is under-weened.
 
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rcduke

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It's a bunch of fucking gibberish, spewed by an incoherent dementia riddled octagenarian, in an attempt to calm the worried population. They're worried over a system in which he gets bribes donations so that his party remains in power after the midterms. Therefore he can continue to remove the rights of any non white, male, citizen of the US because he's mad about not making enough goddamn money.
 
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theOGpetergregory

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Presumably, if the AI models can ace the same cognitive tests that Trump has aced, they should be good to go, working demonstrably at the level of presidential caliber and brilliance.
"Person, woman, strawberry, man, Brasher v. Stewart, camera, pizza glue, TV..."
 
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The worst part?

Even if the USA gets rid of this gang of failed podcasters and crappy TV stars in the executive...the Brain Trust that made everything work is done and gone. And even if sanity comes back--those workers aren't coming back. The social contract, which was the reason most SMEs in government stayed there and didn't take a pay raise to work private--is broken. And that rupture will take a working lifetime to heal.

Nah, you're underestimating how fickle humas are. We talk about 'broken social contracts' like they're permanent, but humanaties outlooks change in no time at all. A few years of stability, a fresh administration, or a bad private-sector tech layoff, and those same workers, or even better, the new wave, will be lining up for those government benefits again.

REMEMBER, human's forget 'unforgivable' grievances ridiculously fast..



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Fatesrider

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On Tuesday, Donald Trump finally signed his executive order expanding the government’s efforts to conduct voluntary safety testing of frontier AI models.
If it's voluntary, who the fuck is going to bother with it? They are running out of money. They dont' fucking CARE about safety. They just want the $$$ so they don't go bankrupt as all of them will eventually unless they manage to turn a profit (and that's not happened yet).

So this part follows like daytime follows nighttime:
Now, critics are warning that the order may be short-sighted, offering only performative reassurances that the government is actively monitoring for AI risks, while changing very little about how and when models are deployed.

They're not going to force the AI makers to do anything since that'd cost them money they can't afford to lose. Of course, once AI starts going bankrupt, Trump will be on the throw them under the bus crowd because they can't continue their bribe payments.
 
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Nah, you're underestimating how fickle humas are. We talk about 'broken social contracts' like they're permanent, but humanaties outlooks change in no time at all. A few years of stability, a fresh administration, or a bad private-sector tech layoff, and those same workers, or even better, the new wave, will be lining up for those government benefits again.

REMEMBER, human's forget 'unforgivable' grievances ridiculously fast..



The humans are a primitive and violent race
-Ironhide
Generally yes. But government in the USA has a big staffing problem. Well several:
  1. Reaganite style neoliberal politicians have been shouting "government is the problem" to the rooftops, for 40 years.
  2. Most people in America actually believe #1. They may not say it--but they wind up voting for people who parrot the austerity talk and "no new taxes" talk and so on...because that is the sum and substance of both political parties now: right-of-center, and far-right.
  3. Because of the above, state government jobs are very hard to fill and get very few applicants and that has been the case for many years. The pay is poor anyway.
  4. The Fed was somewhat immune to #3 due to: exclusivity, and earned pride for working with the best-in-field SMEs on the Big Things, but also good benefits, and job stability. Also the Fed jobs that were left (after decades of outsourcing and austerity) were higher-paying SME jobs, usually.
The people who built a lot of those Fed systems--and are NOT coming back. Many were old enough to retire or thereabouts, anyway. There's no or minimal new-blood applying. I knew many due to my day job. Why would up and coming kids want to work for something so unstable as the federal government? The entire point was the stability, and as soon as the next Republican comes back--we'll be back to this or worse again.

It isn't permanent--but it will take decades to rebuild the brain trust. Because basically no one in high school or college dreams of working for government anymore. Money and fame and stability are literally anywhere else. Trump can't even get enough of his own groupies to fill roles at his own DOJ in spite of literally begging for green-law-school-grads to apply via Twitter DM. These are jobs that prestigious law school grads took massive pay cuts, leaving top law firms and once-in-a-lifetime jobs, to work for the pride and the duty...and Trump can't even staffthem like a McDonald's.
 
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