To kill net neutrality, FCC might have to fight more than half of US states

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Pai is just stubborn/loyal enough to his corporate backers to stand and fight.

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A more logical person might rethink their position.
 
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ColdWetDog

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And this, my friends, is one of the wonderful things about the United STATES of America.

Now don't a goin' getting your hopes up. "States rights" until the Feds decide that political expediency is more important than constitutional purity (i.e. the vast majority of the time).

All the Federal Government needs to do is to attach a bribe^Hfunding source to some remotely associated issue with the proviso that if you don't follow Federal guidelines you don't get the money.

See, for example, Medicaid, education funding, highway funds, Trump's entire infrastructure 'plan' and many other programs. It's been raised to a fine art over the years.

Edit: Can we call him 'Idjit" Pai? Please?
 
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Question to author, or anyone knowledgeable enough, but is certain states enforcing net neutrality rules enough to essentially lead to net neutrality being kept everywhere in the US? Sorta similar to how California's clean air regulation for cars leads to many in the US to having cars that meet those standards regardless of where they live?
 
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Unfortunately, this balkanization of Internet rules only aids ISPs; they can play one state's rules off against anothers to maximize their gains. It impoverishes the nation as a whole.

The Internet should be considered the national railway system or national highway system or electrical system or telephone system of the 21st century. Broad access to high-speed Internet at low cost is grease for the skids of the economy, and nations that skimp on it will lag behind has a result.
 
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SixDegrees

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So Republicans want a smaller central government with the states taking a larger role. Democrats want a larger central government with the states taking a smaller role.

Hmmm, I think one side played right into other's hand.

Uh, no. The GOP wants "states rights" to prevail whenever and where ever they can be used to suppress gays, women's rights and health care, and oppress brown people. The vast majority on both sides of the aisle who want net neutrality to prevail are taking a second-choice route because it is the only route left open to them at the moment; it would be much simpler and better for everyone if we had a uniform mandate for NN at the Federal level.
 
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Sajuuk

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States rights! Wait, no, you're using them wrong!
I have read “states right” being exploited so much throughout history by politicians across the spectrum that the phrase just causes me to roll my eyes.
Well, at this point it should be well known that one side only espouses state's rights when it means localized repression of undesirables to spite the feds.
 
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It's only at 26 because there are others that are constrained from passing legislation right now. Should the issue not be resolved by the end of the year, I expect the Texas legislature will jump onto the bandwagon when they reconvene in early 2019.

The list of states not currently in session are Montana, Minnesota, North Dakota, and Nevada. Montana has, as mentioned, already taken gubernatorial action and will likely address; North Dakota is rural enough to be impacted negatively and I'm guessing will follow their southern neighbor; Minnesota is in a similar boat with sizable populations outside of MSP; in my mind, Nevada is the only wild card, and that's mostly because I'm not familiar enough with them to think one way or another.

http://www.ncsl.org/research/about-stat ... endar.aspx

edit: just noticed that NM adjourned yesterday. I don't know what that means for the legislation there, but I doubt this would merit a special session (or their equivalent), so it's probably dead until their next session.
 
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I gotta agree with ColdWetDog here: Just make state's funding via digital infrastructure block grants contingent on rolling over to the monopolies, and voila, no pesky NN in those states.

The best part? The states that take the money will be spending on infrastructure that the monopolies will own, while states that don't roll over will have no funding for replacement service!

Ka-ching!
 
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I've been playing a lot of Fallout recently. Pai's face kinda resembles a ghoul. Just add a bit of makeup to give the volume needed to imply peeling skin and he's a perfect face model for a fallout ghoul.

You know, those dead, hollow eyes that tells you he's eaten human flesh at one point in his life. Much like a ghoul.

He looks like all the enemies in Wolfenstein 2.
 
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I gotta agree with ColdWetDog here: Just make state's funding via digital infrastructure block grants contingent on rolling over to the monopolies, and voila, no pesky NN in those states.

The best part? The states that take the money will be spending on infrastructure that the monopolies will own, while states that don't roll over will have no funding for replacement service!

Ka-ching!

A valid point (to you both) assuming the current folks in power can get this approved before the other crop gets (hopefully!) voted in in November.
 
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While I'm encouraged by and appreciative of the efforts of these states, I worry that tying these protections to procurement policies will ultimately hamstring the connectivity of those governments advocating for their constituents. Even with state-level legislation, I fear the best we can hope for is a system of widely-disparate handling of traffic and content from one location to another.

What we truly need, more than anything else, is Congressional action to formally define a federal legal framework that explicitly ends this game of regulatory "hot potato" of playing cute with definitions and jurisdictions. There's no small possibility that an entirely new regulatory body specifically and explicitly granted the authority to govern US internet service and edge providers in accordance with a defined "bill of rights" of net neutrality principles.
 
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I don't think Ajit was counting on this much work. Couldn't happen to a better dingo.

Shame 12,000 infants and neonates in the DC/Maryland area had to die before the weight of his lies started generating a sufficient level of interest to trigger real-world consequences.

What?

Pai has been devouring children in the DC/Maryland area since he arrived there in 2008. That’s what a dingo does.

The 12,000 is a rounded estimate based on vectorized police report inputs running through a deep learning system trained on confirmed Pai kills and retrained via the GAN process.

We are hoping to extend the vectorizarion procedure to additional areas, including his hometown of Parsons, KS, but funding and the disparate formatting of reports in those areas makes vectorizarion difficult and time-consuming.

Best deadpan post ever. I'm afraid you've upped your own game. I'll be expecting equally good ones in the future.
 
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And this is one of the reasons Amendment XVII to the US Constitution be revoked. Give states back a little more power. The Senators were originally supposed to represent the States Rights, while The House of Representatives were supposed to represent the people. There is no reason to have 2 groups representing the people, and none representing the states.

https://constitutioncenter.org/interact ... dment-xvii

And this, my friends, is one of the wonderful things about the United STATES of America.

Now don't a goin' getting your hopes up. "States rights" until the Feds decide that political expediency is more important than constitutional purity (i.e. the vast majority of the time).

All the Federal Government needs to do is to attach a bribe^Hfunding source to some remotely associated issue with the proviso that if you don't follow Federal guidelines you don't get the money.

See, for example, Medicaid, education funding, highway funds, Trump's entire infrastructure 'plan' and many other programs. It's been raised to a fine art over the years.

Edit: Can we call him 'Idjit" Pai? Please?
 
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And this, my friends, is one of the wonderful things about the United STATES of America.

Now don't a goin' getting your hopes up. "States rights" until the Feds decide that political expediency is more important than constitutional purity (i.e. the vast majority of the time).

All the Federal Government needs to do is to attach a bribe^Hfunding source to some remotely associated issue with the proviso that if you don't follow Federal guidelines you don't get the money.

See, for example, Medicaid, education funding, highway funds, Trump's entire infrastructure 'plan' and many other programs. It's been raised to a fine art over the years.

Edit: Can we call him 'Idjit" Pai? Please?
My vote is for Ashit Pai
 
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