The Perpetual Guitar Thread

[kelco]

Heh, mine was 800 .. no case, but it was a new spec - just about a year old (a 2010) - with the Original Edge bridge.

I didn't do my homework, I think it has the older Floyd rose system. But the tremolo isn't really what I was after. The sound and the action and the fretboard. Oh my.

 

[anuj]

Oh you're good in all cases, bridge-wise - I'm just stupidly picky 'cause why the fuck not . You'll enjoy the everloving shit out of playing it.

 

[kelco]

Oh you're good in all cases, bridge-wise - I'm just stupidly picky 'cause why the fuck not . You'll enjoy the everloving shit out of playing it.

Freakin STOKED!!!

Btw, this record showcases the ej strats we've been liking for a while now.
Buy a record, help fund my guitar lol.
https://itunes.apple.com/us/album/it-ta ... d508517334

 

[9600man]

I have a gorgeous dark ruby red JS 100. Everyone always asks about the color because it really is a beautiful dark red color, and truth be told, I don't know why my guitar over time has become darker red, when all the other red JS guitars I've seen have been a much lighter red color. Other then that, I love the shape and feel of the body. The action is great. It does have the old old old low-tres trem II Ibanez bridge which is a bitch to change strings with but I'm used to it.

Love my JS100 too!

 

[tedsofbeverlyhills]

Been having amp problems recently. While playing the volume goes up with a loss of clarity and often crackling. Sometimes it sounds like the cartoon sound effect of someone tuning in a radio signal when the guitar is idle. After a few seconds it goes back to normal. It's a Divided By 13 CJ11 with all new tubes so I'm convinced it's not build quality or faulty tubes. I remember how when my Mom used to iron clothes the lights would dim for 1/2 second, presumably because the iron was sucking juice, and wondered if it's electrical.

The building is mid 1950's and of the 7 (?) plugs on the circuit only 2 are grounded. Although the amp is plugged into a emotiva cx-2 line conditioner just for good measure and it says the line is a-ok.

Maybe RF interference? There's a ferrite choke on the amp, the cable is a lava ultramafic, AND IT"S STILL DOING IT. Takes you out of concentration when you're trying to follow the metronome and you're in a nice happy place and all of your downstrokes are on the click and it's just a beautiful thing all around and suddenly your sweet clean tone sounds like a high school PA system. And I say this with an unblemished record of staunch heterosexuality but I will blow everyone on this board to figure this out.

So annoying...

 

[Polyester]

May be just a faulty volume pot.

Easy solution: Grab a can of electronics cleaner from Radio Shack, squirt the pot, and twiddle it a bunch of times to clean it up.

If that doesn't work, either take it somewhere to have the pot replaced or do it yourself if you're handy.

Not 100% guaranteed to work but it really sounds like your pot is scratchy.


No need to cash in on your... generous... offer if I'm right

 

[tedsofbeverlyhills]

Thanks. Thought about it but it was built in June 2012 but, yeah, the gain knob makes noise. Will give it a shot.

 

[Comp Guru]

I can't stop thinking about this Dean DCR Cadillac Floyd I saw recently.... *trying to resist urge to make offer*

EDIT: , 25% off list? I'll take that , Pics soon.

- CG

 

[9600man]

Vai and Satriani jamming at Vai's studio. I apologise for the tears.


*Starts 12 minutes in.

 

[Sp@nky]

Vai and Satriani jamming at Vai's studio. I apologise for the tears.


*Starts 12 minutes in.

I know I'm crazy or something but while it sounds good it just does nothing for me. I think I've always been more into the groove and beat of of a song.

Of course if I had the room and house for it I'd probably be a drummer so I might be a heathen around these parts!

 

[9600man]

Vai and Satriani jamming at Vai's studio. I apologise for the tears.


*Starts 12 minutes in.

I know I'm crazy or something but while it sounds good it just does nothing for me. I think I've always been more into the groove and beat of of a song.

Of course if I had the room and house for it I'd probably be a drummer so I might be a heathen around these parts!

Music (art) is personal, so I'm not going to try and convince you to like it. But seriously, dude, like the music. It's good for you. I'm not using any emoticons, so this is a very serious post. Just try the tip first, and you will like it. If you don't, you might end up in the... DANGERZONE!

 

[doctor funkenstein]

nice stuff. I haven't been here in a while!

Latest acquisition: 1998 peavey Wolfgang special. USA, from what I can tell.
Now I just have to develop the skills to make that sort of expenditure reasonable!

 

[Comp Guru]

I has a happy.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/vgtk3otp9n3if ... 4%2057.jpg

- CG

 

[kelco]

I has a happy.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/vgtk3otp9n3if ... 4%2057.jpg

- CG

Nice, kinda reminds me of a washburn for some reason.


I should have the JS by Monday, I'll be sure to post pictures.

 

[Comp Guru]

I has a happy.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/vgtk3otp9n3if ... 4%2057.jpg

- CG

Nice, kinda reminds me of a washburn for some reason.


I should have the JS by Monday, I'll be sure to post pictures.

JS's are nice

It's a Dean DCR #6 Cadillac Floyd, second one here: http://www.deanguitars.com/deancustomrun_import.php

- CG

 

[BeowulfSchaeffer]

Hummmm... I was looking at this thread and decided to check the net and see how much my Gibson L6-S was going for. A lot more than the $100 I paid for it in 1980. I like it a lot, but it needs some work so I think I'll have to take it in to someone who will be gentle with it.

 

[MongoMania]

Eff. Fender released a Pawn Shop Bass VI. Dangit.

 

[Jehos]

Eff. Fender released a Pawn Shop Bass VI. Dangit.

I read this then looked up the Pawn Shop series.

WTF?!?

They banged together spare parts and charged $1200?

Seriously Fender, 30" is NOT a proper scale length for a bass!

 

[vherrera0079]

Eff. Fender released a Pawn Shop Bass VI. Dangit.

I read this then looked up the Pawn Shop series.

WTF?!?

They banged together spare parts and charged $1200?

Seriously Fender, 30" is NOT a proper scale length for a bass!

That's the original scale of the Bass VI!

Required for Cure cover bands.

 

[Dqua]

Eff. Fender released a Pawn Shop Bass VI. Dangit.

I read this then looked up the Pawn Shop series.

WTF?!?

They banged together spare parts and charged $1200?

Seriously Fender, 30" is NOT a proper scale length for a bass!

That's the original scale of the Bass VI!

Required for Cure cover bands.

And eye shadow.

 

[MongoMania]

Eff. Fender released a Pawn Shop Bass VI. Dangit.

I read this then looked up the Pawn Shop series.

WTF?!?

They banged together spare parts and charged $1200?

Seriously Fender, 30" is NOT a proper scale length for a bass!

The Cure, Joy Division/New Order, She Wants Revenge, (the bass player in my band), all have words for you. I prefer the 30" scale to a full scale bass, and the string spacing is more conducive for my attack-before-it-kills-me style of playing. And a real (vintage) Bass VI is like $3k-5k on ebay, so the $800 street price of a "new" one ain't so bad. I'd prefer a squire version, though. I paid $700-800 for my jazzmaster and I still wince at that. I'm cheap, what can I say...

Oddly enough, I have no problems plonking down $250+ for MTM shirts, though. One day I'll have to visit a shrink and see if I can't figure that out.

 

[Dqua]

Eff. Fender released a Pawn Shop Bass VI. Dangit.

I read this then looked up the Pawn Shop series.

WTF?!?

They banged together spare parts and charged $1200?

Seriously Fender, 30" is NOT a proper scale length for a bass!

The Cure, Joy Division/New Order, She Wants Revenge, (the bass player in my band), all have words for you. I prefer the 30" scale to a full scale bass, and the string spacing is more conducive for my attack-before-it-kills-me style of playing. And a real (vintage) Bass VI is like $3k-5k on ebay, so the $800 street price of a "new" one ain't so bad. I'd prefer a squire version, though. I paid $700-800 for my jazzmaster and I still wince at that. I'm cheap, what can I say...

Oddly enough, I have no problems plonking down $250+ for MTM shirts, though. One day I'll have to visit a shrink and see if I can't figure that out.

Which is odd because your shirts look like my grandma's curtains.

 

[Jehos]

Eff. Fender released a Pawn Shop Bass VI. Dangit.

I read this then looked up the Pawn Shop series.

WTF?!?

They banged together spare parts and charged $1200?

Seriously Fender, 30" is NOT a proper scale length for a bass!

That's the original scale of the Bass VI!

Required for Cure cover bands.

Yeah, but the Bass VI is not a bass, it's a baritone guitar.

They have other proper 4-string basses with a 30" scale length in there too, which is pants-on-head retarded. Longer scale length is better. Short scale length is for guitarists who suck and get stuck playing bass to get in a band with their friends.

 

[MongoMania]

It is more correctly a baritone guitar, you are correct. But it's called the Bass VI, not the Baritone Guitar VI. That's something you're going to work out with Fender Marketing and come to peace with.

 

[MongoMania]

They have other proper 4-string basses with a 30" scale length in there too, which is pants-on-head retarded. Longer scale length is better. Short scale length is for guitarists who suck and get stuck playing bass to get in a band with their friends.

Pure hogwash.

 

[Jehos]

They have other proper 4-string basses with a 30" scale length in there too, which is pants-on-head retarded. Longer scale length is better. Short scale length is for guitarists who suck and get stuck playing bass to get in a band with their friends.

Pure hogwash.

Nuh uh!

(just a little friendly ribbing from a bassist)

But seriously though, basses sound better with longer scale lengths. That's why an upright with a 42" scale length has much better low-end even though it's tuned exactly the same as a 34" scale standard electric bass.

Why do you think Dingwall makes that weird fan-fret bass with a 37" scale for the low B? And why has Carl Thompson gone on record many times saying anything less than 36" and you only get the semblance of a low B, and a much better scale length is 38"?

30" is ridiculously short scale for a bass. Even Stanley Clarke's piccolo bass is 32" scale length, and it's tuned up an octave from a normal bass, i.e. exactly the same as the bottom 4 strings on a guitar.

I stand by my statement. 30" scale is for bassists who should be guitarists.

 

[MongoMania]

Which is odd because your shirts look like my grandma's curtains.

You know how many old ladies I had to fuck to get those curtains? The life of the rock star is filled with challenges.

 

[vherrera0079]

Soft Machine disagrees

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Sl5FmuaLmY

 

[BarCode]

I stand by my statement. 30" scale is for bassists who should be guitarists.

Alot of the early-80s post-punk bands (like those cited above: the Cure, Joy Division/New Order, etc), traditional rock instrumentation was used in a consciously non-traditional -- even non-rock -- way.

In a standard rock setup, the guitar drives the melody and the bass holds it down in the rhythm section. In a postpunk setup, the bass drives the melody and the guitar provides texture (keyboardy washes, etc) or percussive stabs. The postpunk movement was kinda anti-guitar. So the bass VI is really good for having alot of guitar functionality but looking and sounding more like a bass.

So, basically, you're right but your missing the necessary context behind why this particular instrument is perfect for this particular type of music.

Note: I write all of this as a guy who plays guitar (and some bass, keyboards and vocals) in a post-punk band (or at least an experimental band with quite a few postpunk touchstones).

One of the cool things about playing in this group is learning how to 'unlearn' the guitar. You don't want a warm fat tone. No blues licks. No string bending. No power chords. etc. Harder than it sounds if you've been playing long enough and, say, worshipped Jimi Hendrix when you were 16....

 

[Jehos]

One of the cool things about playing in this group is learning how to 'unlearn' the guitar. You don't want a warm fat tone. No blues licks. No string bending. No power chords. etc. Harder than it sounds if you've been playing long enough and, say, worshipped Jimi Hendrix when you were 16....

I wish there were more of you. One thing I hate is trying out guitarists and weeding out the noodlers.

I hear what you're saying about the post-punk thing, and I agree that there's certainly room for the bass to be used in all sorts of ways in a band. I'm just more of a traditionalist, or maybe neo-traditionalist, since I grew up listening to Green Day, Rancid, etc.--punk music with melodic bass that still fills the role of a bass.

 

[MongoMania]

That popped up in my fb feed today, lol.

 

[Polyester]

I hear what you're saying about the post-punk thing, and I agree that there's certainly room for the bass to be used in all sorts of ways in a band. I'm just more of a traditionalist, or maybe neo-traditionalist, since I grew up listening to Green Day, Rancid, etc.--punk music with melodic bass that still fills the role of a bass.

Matt Freeman (bassist for Rancid) is one of the most badass bass players ever. I challenge anyone to listen to the bass solo in "Maxwell Murder" and not be in awe.

 

[openaperture]

Is noodling the same as scale wanking?

 

[9600man]

Is noodling the same as scale wanking?

Meh! Screw the judgement, and just do it. The noodlers and scale wankers in a decade become masters of their guitar. When I was younger I was 'noodling' and 'scale wanking' on the guitar all the time (well, during solo parts, or when I was playing on my own). Now I know the neck really well and can come up with melodies without struggle, because I know the neck really well. And if I have to legitimise this, I always get the, 'oh my god, you're amazing!' Granted, if you've been playing for 20+ years and still sound the same as you did the last 15 years, well then, then judgement should be had. Otherwise, guitar players are like everyone else, they'll poo poo anything they personally think has no value just because of becausing the because.

 

[Jehos]

I hear what you're saying about the post-punk thing, and I agree that there's certainly room for the bass to be used in all sorts of ways in a band. I'm just more of a traditionalist, or maybe neo-traditionalist, since I grew up listening to Green Day, Rancid, etc.--punk music with melodic bass that still fills the role of a bass.

Matt Freeman (bassist for Rancid) is one of the most badass bass players ever. I challenge anyone to listen to the bass solo in "Maxwell Murder" and not be in awe.

It's not *that* hard to play. It's more fast picking than anything else.

His real strength isn't in the few solos he has, it's that he actually manages to play almost a second melody in most of the songs while still holding down the main chord progression groove. He's like a jazz bassist, cranking out melodic walking lines on a distorted, picked P-bass.

 

[Jehos]

That popped up in my fb feed today, lol.

Les Claypool's is much more manageable.

 

[Polyester]

It's not *that* hard to play. It's more fast picking than anything else.

His real strength isn't in the few solos he has, it's that he actually manages to play almost a second melody in most of the songs while still holding down the main chord progression groove. He's like a jazz bassist, cranking out melodic walking lines on a distorted, picked P-bass.

Well it's still really damn impressive, and he's much much better and more talented than I could ever hope to be. Heck just the fact that he *has* a few bass solos is indicative of mad skills.

 

[MongoMania]

I'm more of a less is more kinda guy. One of my all-time favorite guitar solos:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QoYiQ8Qsozk

 

[kelco]

Today is a great day!

Sorry for the size, I didn't see any bbcode for pixels.

Also Sorry for the blur, the guitar is too fast for my camera.

 

[anuj]

Ooh, would love a less blurry picture, but that looks like one from the Edge Pro era. Great in all circumstances, of course - my favorite neck ever.

Here's my brothers (they're two of, y'know, twelve, if you count two basses and two travel guitars, but these are the bros..) .. taken when I got the JS last year: