lol according to you. Not everyone is you. Shocking right?I got myself the base iPad with the A16. No complaints so far.
So many people buy the Pro for no good reason.
Ah, same situation, but maybe a year or so older...a freebie bonus for getting my solar panels. It still does everything it did out of the box. The battery doesn't seem to have aged much, still providing a full day of use, including a few hours of movie watching. It's never been dropped, the screen is perfect, as is the frame. There's just no reason to replace at this point. I'll wait until it dies.I find it amusing that all the tech sites make the comparisons to the previous generation devices. Never mind M4, M2, or even M1, I am upgrading from a second generation Pro with A10X and 4GB of RAM from eight years ago. That ought to be a decent jump.
Well, hang on here, it's not just the processor.
For a long time, the current-at-the-time MacOS, Windows and Linux were all capable of running on an i7 processor for example but developing for those OSes was a wildly different experience in most situations.
?! Really?! やった!I know its a niche use-case, but with Blender coming to iPadOS
Agree. The reviewers (and most commenters) are clearly people who do most of their serious computing on laptops or desktops. I haven’t bought a laptop or desktop in over 15 years and now do all of my work on my iPad. It makes your perspective of the updates and upgrades completely different.Yet again, I am begging Ars Technica and other publications to find people who like tablets to review them. Don’t give them to reporters who love laptops and want the iPad to be a laptop.
Apple, give us virtual machines on the iPad already!!
Apple makes Macs for computer software. The iPad’s entire point is that it is a different kind of way of using software. It is emphatically not behind on useability! The only way you can claim that is if you try to use it like a regular computer. Why would you want to run Reaper on an iPad? It’s an amazing Mac and Windows program. On the other hand programs like Drambo, AUM, Animoog Z, and many many others are amazing programs to use in musical performances. None of which are available on Windows, Mac, or Android.Well, I don't know that hence why I'm asking. It just seems odd that everything BUT mac seems to have cracked being able to run standard desktop environments on tablets while mac needs a hardware specific environment. Yet at the same time mac boasts about having the fastest processors, most memory, best screens, etc. Those sound great, and something that would be wonderful to run Reaper or Ableton on. But I can't. Even though there are Apple Silicon versions of both, and both can be run on Lenovo tablets at a quarter of the cost (they even come with a pen and keyboard if the app doesn't do touchscreen)
So it seems while Apple has the fastest/best everything, they seem to be lagging behind in general usability because of... well, that's what I'm trying to deduce.
It says right there in the headline to stop reading the article. I’ll grant you, it’s an unconventional journalistic approach.Yet again, I am begging Ars Technica and other publications to find people who like tablets to review them. Don’t give them to reporters who love laptops and want the iPad to be a laptop.
I think this is a case where two reviews, or two opinions in a single review, would make sense.Yet again, I am begging Ars Technica and other publications to find people who like tablets to review them. Don’t give them to reporters who love laptops and want the iPad to be a laptop.
Apple, give us virtual machines on the iPad already!!
Because if it ran MacOS it would be a Mac? Which you can already get just without a touchscreen.Regardless of the name, why does it need a special version of Blender that's yet to be released? There's a version of Blender for the M chips (and intel) already. Why doesn't the iPadOS run that (or the iPad run OSX or whatever it's named now)?
In case I'm not clear, I'm trying to see if there's a compelling reason that iPads run something other than Apple's desktop OS, even though they should be able to spec-wise
Because I can, is good enough reason for me to get one.I got myself the base iPad with the A16. No complaints so far.
So many people buy the Pro for no good reason.
I bought my M4 iPad Pro earlier this year and I'd have upgraded to this if I could get the matte screen option on the 256 or 512gb version.
I f'ing hate glossy screens but Apple either misunderstands my finances or the relationship between my hatred of glossy screens, and my self control.
Fortunately, the matte film I applied to my iPad (and iPhone) is pretty good.
I'm not sure this is true in isolation - the Wacom stylus is passive (no battery life) and has an "eraser" on the other end (which is more intuitive than the Apple pencil's capcitive switching, especially the early models without haptic feedback), plus right- and double-click buttons and a more ergonomic design (hence the preponderance of third-party grips available for the Apple Pencil)I am not an artist myself, but reading a review by an artist on another site if you slap a paper texture on the screen it is superior in almost every way to an old fashioned book and pencil system. The Apple Pencil is superior to the Wacom of old and you don’t have to lug a full portfolio and box of paints with you to locations.
Apple itself has mentioned in past news that the paint programs often support ridiculous sizes and numbers of layers and likewise the music apps support nearly unlimited simultaneous tracks.
I would like to see a review of the new M5 ray tracing features in action. This may well be a tablet that far surpasses the new mobile X-Box if developers get in a mood. For a somewhat gaming site this review does a terrible job.
I for one encourage these incremental updates to keep the bar moving for everyone else.
and storagefor those of us who do art and photography work on ipad, there's never too much processing power.
This sort of “Hurr, durr the iPad Pro has a laptop chipset therefore should be a laptop” attitude from nerds who clearly just want a laptop (in which case the MacBook Air is right there; buy that) and don’t care about the capabilities that are unique to the iPad Pro really irritates me. Especially as Apple seems to have started listening to them rather than real iPad Pro users and are leaning into making it more laptop like; despite that group being very unlikely to actually buy an iPad Pro, preferring instead to jeer from the sidelines at the people who do because they don’t share our needs and preferences so therefore we must be wrong about what we want and how we choose to spend our money.Still, it remains unclear why most people would spend one, two, or even three thousand dollars on a tablet that, despite its amazing hardware, does less than a comparably priced laptop—or at least does it a little more awkwardly, even if it’s impressively quick and has a gorgeous screen
Thank you for saying what I could not put into words! I know I wish it could do everything from a standpoint of wanting to own less devices but that doesn’t take away from the fact that it does ALOT of things very well that I would have never tried before. I only upgraded to an m4 pro myself due to the kids inheriting my M1 Pro. The choice was two new low end iPads and I keep my M1 Pro or they share the M1 Pro and I upgrade. They mostly draw and use it in the car for long trips to watch movies, rather than something that’s used daily so it’s overkill but it was cost effective.Apple makes Macs for computer software. The iPad’s entire point is that it is a different kind of way of using software. It is emphatically not behind on useability! The only way you can claim that is if you try to use it like a regular computer. Why would you want to run Reaper on an iPad? It’s an amazing Mac and Windows program. On the other hand programs like Drambo, AUM, Animoog Z, and many many others are amazing programs to use in musical performances. None of which are available on Windows, Mac, or Android.
People hate to hear this but the closed software system has led to a thriving music ecosystem on the iPad. Most of them concentrate on performance. When there is overlap between the iPad and Mac/Windows software the iPad is usually 2-3 times cheaper. Eventide and Moog are good examples of this.
If you embrace the uniqueness of the platform and the software made for it, the iPad is a compelling computer to use especially for music. Visual artists seem to have their own pen based software systems that are both incredibly performant and inexpensive. If you insist on using the same software on the iPad as you do on your desktop you will never understand it.
And Andrew and others asking why there is so much power in the iPad the answer is simple. The more powerful the hardware is, the more powerful the software can be. If Apple didn’t keep pushing the envelope we wouldn’t get Davinci Resolve, Blender, Affinity Designer, etc. etc. etc. on the iPad. Build good hardware with a good software market and developers will take advantage.
I do it because I want to mark up documents using the Apple Pencil and I have never found any product that comes close to the feel and usability of the iPad. That plus daily usage on internet surfing, tv watching while working out, photo management, etc makes it a great choice. A couple thousand dollars for a machine that I can use every day in numerous contexts for 5 years is a not a particularly tough call.I re-quote your self-quote as an affirmation of my perspective.
And iPadOS 26 has a phone app!You really have been out of the loop if you didn't notice that it runs iPadOS rather than iOS. The phone and tablet branches of the OS have been distinct for a while.
And that’s another part of the iPad Pro market. I don’t use my 11" M4 Pro for audio, video or art, activities that might more objectively justify the Pro’s capabilities. But I do use mine a lot during an average day — right now, in fact! — and appreciate its display quality and other high end features. My wife has a current model iPad Air, which while pretty nice, feels clunky in the hand by comparison.Because I can, is good enough reason for me to get one.
Well, I don't know that hence why I'm asking. It just seems odd that everything BUT mac seems to have cracked being able to run standard desktop environments on tablets while mac needs a hardware specific environment. Yet at the same time mac boasts about having the fastest processors, most memory, best screens, etc. Those sound great, and something that would be wonderful to run Reaper or Ableton on. But I can't. Even though there are Apple Silicon versions of both, and both can be run on Lenovo tablets at a quarter of the cost (they even come with a pen and keyboard if the app doesn't do touchscreen)
So it seems while Apple has the fastest/best everything, they seem to be lagging behind in general usability because of... well, that's what I'm trying to deduce.
I did above. People who can’t afford things really don’t need to chime in questioning why people who can afford things buy them. This sort of silly question can be asked about nearly any non necessity. The bottom line is I use my iPad constantly for lots of uses. I want the best device in the category. I am not at all clear why anyone thinks $1300 is expensive. It’s a device that will last 5-7 years is insanely well built and is the best device in the category by a mile.Explain why anyone needs this more than they need $1,300?
Termius works decently IME.A proper terminal app would be a good start
Anyone done the hard yards to find a good third party one?
Would also love vs code and Xcode some day.
If the "why is the iPad like it is? Apple should turn it into a laptop" crowd ever succeeds then I don't know what I'll do. Maybe I'll buy a Macbook Air instead because if that happens the iPad has lost any and all of the usefulness it currently has for me - because it's not a laptop.
This is something that has long bugged me as well. I miss the days when AnandTech was still a going concern and they put all their performance testing results into a searchable database so that readers could make their own comparison charts.I find it amusing that all the tech sites make the comparisons to the previous generation devices. Never mind M4, M2, or even M1, I am upgrading from a second generation Pro with A10X and 4GB of RAM from eight years ago. That ought to be a decent jump.
I am apparently not the only person who felt like I was reading a cat review consisting entirely of the writer complaining: "WHY THE F*CK ISN'T THIS A DOG!?"Yet again, I am begging Ars Technica and other publications to find people who like tablets to review them. Don’t give them to reporters who love laptops and want the iPad to be a laptop.
I don't see anything in there that says touch-only, or that it won't still support keyboard/mouse if those are available.
The idea is to bring the full power of Blender to these devices. This requires adapting to platform-specific paradigms, but also to offer more task-oriented user interfaces with reduced information density. This will be achieved by extending existing input methods, and improving workspaces and application templates, running on top of a regular Blender build.
Try 7 paragraphs further down:I don't see anything in there that says touch-only, or that it won't still support keyboard/mouse if those are available.
Working on a standalone tablet comes with its own set of software and hardware limitations, such as:
- Single, full-screen window workflow.
- Relatively small screen real estate.
- No keyboard/mouse (out of the box, use should be optional).
- Multi-input interface (touch + pen).
- Limited processing power and battery.
- Siloed file system.
It's a star trek V reference if I'm not mistaken. A bold choice to be sure.It says right there in the headline to stop reading the article. I’ll grant you, it’s an unconventional journalistic approach.