Tesla is the least-trusted car brand in America, survey finds
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It's taken a long time, but hopefully those chickens are coming home to roost finally.....I expect eventually musk's bubble will pop,Tesla's financials are just that bad, any other company would be in serious trouble already.
The melt down will be worth it in the end.
The melt down will be worth it in the end.
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Excellent move alienating rich eco-minded west coast types in favor of right wing coal rollers who think global warming is a hoax. And then pissing off those people too.
If it wasn't for my tesla's free supercharging I'd be thinking hard about getting rid of it too.
If it wasn't for my tesla's free supercharging I'd be thinking hard about getting rid of it too.
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Who would have thought that having an increasingly unstable, shrieking lunatic as CEO would have a negative impact on perception and sales?
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I've seen at least a half-dozen new Model Ys around me in the last few weeks.
Who the fuck buys a car from a Nazi???
Who the fuck buys a car from a Nazi???
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I used to own one. There are a number of things I really liked about it, but there are more that will make me not buy another one (Musk's behavior aside).
Tesla actually demonstrated to me why the dealer model is beneficial, and that's a pretty tall order considering I didn't previously support dealers entrenching themselves through laws. I had problems with the range on mine while it was still under warranty. It was 320 miles when I got it, and I could generally get something close to that. A little over two years later, the real world range was around 175 miles. The car would charge up and tell you it had 300+ miles of range, but it would plummet as you drove it.
Made several service appointments, and Tesla would run some battery test and say the battery tested fine. I repeatedly asked them to drive the car for a bit and see what the actual range was. They would never do that and would just return the car to me saying it was fine.
Dealers, who have many problems, have a financial incentive to fight the car maker on your behalf because they get paid to do warranty work. I'm far from the only one with stories about being stonewalled by Tesla on warranty repairs.
Tesla actually demonstrated to me why the dealer model is beneficial, and that's a pretty tall order considering I didn't previously support dealers entrenching themselves through laws. I had problems with the range on mine while it was still under warranty. It was 320 miles when I got it, and I could generally get something close to that. A little over two years later, the real world range was around 175 miles. The car would charge up and tell you it had 300+ miles of range, but it would plummet as you drove it.
Made several service appointments, and Tesla would run some battery test and say the battery tested fine. I repeatedly asked them to drive the car for a bit and see what the actual range was. They would never do that and would just return the car to me saying it was fine.
Dealers, who have many problems, have a financial incentive to fight the car maker on your behalf because they get paid to do warranty work. I'm far from the only one with stories about being stonewalled by Tesla on warranty repairs.
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While I don't disagree, they're incredibly cheap used right now. If you're on a budget, I don't fault you for making compromises.
Buying only from companies that don't do evil things requires the luxuries of time and money. Not that many people have both, even if they have the desire.
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Tesla reports earnings tomorrow after market close. Exciting! They would have reported a net loss last quarter if it weren't for those socialist credits, and they've only been diminishing, and well... you know how they're going now.
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There's one (the facelifted Y) near me in southwest Ohio. Made me chuckle. They really showed him; take that, Elon!
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Unclear who's buying them, but they're steeply discounted in order to keep unit sales up, and there are those who see a bargain and take it. For me and a lot of others, the stain is just so deep it's never coming out, and I'm off Tesla pretty much forever barring Musk getting jettisoned from the company and relinquishing his stock holdings.
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Don't worry, Tesla's real revolutionary business model is to provide you with a therapy MechaHitler you can talk to in your garage.
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Prediction: the earnings report will be bad, the stock will soar anyway
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They could lose a lot of revenue from disappearing carbon credits too. https://www.cnn.com/2025/07/22/business/tesla-regulatory-credit-sales-revenue
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Tesla because of it's non-functioning board is pretty much looked at as being Elon's personal company. That is not a good place to be. Elon's political and personal life has been a shitcoaster for a long time now.
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I have, in Boulder (which has some of the highest EV adoption in the US, and tons of jobs at risk because of DOGE).
As a pedestrian, I always walk carefully around Teslas, never knowing if the robot will try to murder me today.
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Sounds a bit like your Tesla was over estimating its range https://meincmagazine.com/tech-policy...o-much-that-drivers-thought-cars-were-broken/
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My perception is that Elon Musk is a Nazi asshole and Trump supporter, and because of that I will never, every buy any of his products. Full stop.
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I'm genuinely in the prepping a bowl of popcorn phase for full-year results without credits. They'll probably be damn close to $0 profit, whether just barely negative or positive.
As always with Elon, that means nothing with regards to the stock price, but in a normal world, it would crater with haste.
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Yup and if I had telekinetic powers that car would have been flung to the moon.
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I'm still not sure where the idea this would be a lucrative field comes from; wide availability of robotaxis would just crater the price of a ride, and there's no reason to think it would be offset by opening up huge new markets. The notion of individuals buying one and sending it off to make money as a taxi when they aren't using it is just laughable.
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Strictly anecdotal, but I was taken aback by how strong sentiment in my social circle was against autonomous vehicles. I posted a video clip on Facebook from my first ride in a Waymo car in Phoenix (which I thought was pretty cool) and the way people reacted, you'd have thought I was playing Russian roulette with 5 chambers loaded.
it may be relevant to note that I'm old, and therefore most of my friends are also old, but the intensity of it was still surprising. I get less of a reaction when I post videos from skydiving.
it may be relevant to note that I'm old, and therefore most of my friends are also old, but the intensity of it was still surprising. I get less of a reaction when I post videos from skydiving.
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I saw one on a wrapped Cyber Truck, and I regret not taking a photo. I was caught up in so many questions about the decision behind it: Did the owner think that someone informed enough to understand why they have that sticker, would also not realize the Cyber Truck has not been around long enough to make that plausible? Were they trying to be ironic? Trying to trick the casual observer? Were they actually so ignorant to buy a cyber truck without knowing what Musk was truly about? Just... so many questions.
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Anyone with half a brain cell wouldn't want strangers in their robot car anyways: people do all sorts of horribly stupid stuff even in normal taxis with an actual human present and I absolutely guarantee the horribly stupid stuff would shoot right through the roof if there was no human present and people thought they could do whatever they like with no one seeing it.
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Speaking as a liberal, I hate it because it's a shit car made by a shit company owned by a shit-head asshole.
Trump doesn't enter the picture at all.
So, it's not a conservative/liberal thing. It's a utter lack of quality and too much fucking lying thing.
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Quite anecdotal, but not many in the DC metro area, as far as I can tell. I see a lot of older ones (silver trim around windows) and some newer previous models (black trim). Very few Cybertrucks as well, but they are around to everyone's disgust.
On the other hand, I saw a lot of new Model 3s and Ys in Lisbon and Porto, where they seem to sell well and are frequently used for Uber/Bolt. A few in Switzerland and London as well.
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IMHO the Robotaxi roll out was a complete failure.
When Musk touted the Robotaxi, it was shown as a 2 door car (and apparently driven by remote control, rather than autonomously).
After that there were videos on YT showing the 2 door car zooming around a fixed course (but with all the windows blacked out - so we couldn't see inside).
But on the day of release we get a 4 seat car with a safety driver.
Bait and Switch? Nah, just another day of Tesla's Overpromise and Under Deliver.
When Musk touted the Robotaxi, it was shown as a 2 door car (and apparently driven by remote control, rather than autonomously).
After that there were videos on YT showing the 2 door car zooming around a fixed course (but with all the windows blacked out - so we couldn't see inside).
But on the day of release we get a 4 seat car with a safety driver.
Bait and Switch? Nah, just another day of Tesla's Overpromise and Under Deliver.
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I have mixed feelings about shaming every Tesla driver around you, anti-elon club bumper sticker or no. Inevitably, some people are driving Teslas because they embody all of the great (read: bad) things about Tesla and Elon, and are weirdly proud of his anti-social behavior. Those people suck.
There ARE people who bought there car five or more years ago. How many of us are prepared to sell a paid off vehicle (probably at a steep loss, given their definitely not appreciating value) and replace it with a new car payment, all because the CEO of said company went off the deep end well after you made your purchase? There ARE people who are just, simply, not as well informed as they should be (the survey backing that up as well). Same caveats reply.
I know if the CEO of Hyundai suddenly came out as a Nazi, I wouldn't be prepared to sell our Tucson PHEV and Ioniq 5. And while I think it wasn't at all "sudden" for most of us following the history at Ars, it'd be a stretch to assume the average person is as tuned in to the situation as we are.
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I've seen several videos on YT saying that because of the outer layer of a CT, that wrapping them is a Very Bad Thing® due to the wrapping damaging the panel's surface.
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NO
Autopilot NOT aside, nor FSD. Don't hand-wave away the things that are killing people with no responisbility taken by the company
Objectively, they ARE relatively unsafe when compared to others in their class.
And they are very VERY unsafe compared to what Tesla (and Elon) claim them to be
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