Swatting as a service: Meet the kid who terrorized America with 375 violent hoaxes
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Max of $75 to commit a major felony. I know the trope about criminals being stupid, but man is that incredibly stupid, like armed robbery of a convenience store level of stupid.
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Sorry kid, zero tolerance for this kind of anti-social activity. Enjoy jail. Learn a lesson.
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Let’s hope the civil courts start seeing cases filed against this little shit (and his parents). If prison didn’t deter him, ruinous financial settlements might.
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Does it happen to anyone else that you read about some shit that someone did, and then you see a picture of them and it's exactly, down to the last detail, who you'd expect?
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estimating he made under $30K, and will be imprisoned for—a mere 4 years. Sounds like he could take that as a win.
did no one get hurt/die as a result of his swatting?
did no one get hurt/die as a result of his swatting?
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I actually agree that four years in a US Federal prison won't be good for this kid in the long run and will likely make things worse.
But blaming it on male hormones, essentially? I'm sorry but no. Billions of men grow up and go through puberty and don't swat people or get rapey or shoot up schools. Not an excuse.
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I read elsewhere that he got a reduced sentence for rating on his customers, that and being a minor.
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Weird, I made to through my 20s without threatening to blow up schools for $50.
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These are serious crimes that waste vast amount of taxpayer resources and can get people killed. "Boys will be boys" is not an acceptable defense for this kind of thing.
If you want the system to take males inability to act like rational people into account and you want the justice system to treat them like children... then the rest of society should also treat them like children. No drivers licences, no firearms, no right to vote, certainly no nonsense like the clowns at DOGE are getting access to.
But you don't get to be treated like an adult until you put others at risk and then go "oh its not my fault, I'm still growing up!"
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Oh no, we're not doing this. Fuck this guy, and four years isn't enough. I was 18-22 once upon a time, and my prefrontal cortex might have failed me when it came to safe and attentive driving a few times, class work for some electives I didn't give a shit about, a girl or two I shouldn't have jumped into bed with, and a couple of ill-advised backcountry adventures that ended well mostly due to luck and getting real serious when it counted. It did not make me think that using the threat (and reality) of state violence to harass and persecute people was an acceptable moral choice, or give me the inspiration to charge money for my services doing same, or lead me to make threats that caused real people real fear and distress. Do not carry water for this bullshit.
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Should be a year per call if he gave up his clients, 4 years per call otherwise. Should be equivalent of attempted murder, conspiracy . . .
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Normally, I'm an advocate for lighter sentences because the "tough on crime" strategy doesn't actually deter people; lock them up long enough to teach them a lesson.
But this fucking kid, he kept doing this after the cops came and searched his house in connection with this crime.
I don't trust him to learn his lesson in 4 years, I don't trust him to just abandon this activity, this part of who he was in 4 years.
That's gotta be a 5 year lesson, at least.
But this fucking kid, he kept doing this after the cops came and searched his house in connection with this crime.
I don't trust him to learn his lesson in 4 years, I don't trust him to just abandon this activity, this part of who he was in 4 years.
That's gotta be a 5 year lesson, at least.
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Probably be getting a presidential pardon before being shipped off to prison.
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With handles like “Nazgul Swattings" and "Third Reich of Kiwiswats” he will fit right in.
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Being a dumbass and doing dumbass things doesn't excuse you from facing consequences for your actions.
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Just in case you're wondering why you're getting down voted, prison violence and especially sexual violence are a horrific thing. Plus, it turns out that brutalizing prisoners doesn't result in model citizens.
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For the level of personal and social harm he brought about, I don't think four years cuts it, but we don't want to go hard on jail time, I have no issue billing the bastard the full cost of every SWAT he perpetrated. That is just schools, police departments, Fire, EMS, and towns. Then...Then those directly targeted need to be advised to add personal civil suits on his ass.
Don't want a lot of jail time, pay up.
Don't want to pay up, good long jail time.
For this brain, four years (less with good behavior) will not mean a thing.
(And for good measure, no connection to the internet unless supervised at a library or some public place and this continues till he pays it all back).
Don't want a lot of jail time, pay up.
Don't want to pay up, good long jail time.
For this brain, four years (less with good behavior) will not mean a thing.
(And for good measure, no connection to the internet unless supervised at a library or some public place and this continues till he pays it all back).
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That's just going to dissuade him from giving up his clients. Your "deal" would still means he dies in prison. At that point, someone like that would probably take the 1,500 years just to go for the high score. It's not like there's any hope of eventually walking free on a 375 year sentence.
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This guy, or someone like him, repeatedly called in bomb threats/shootings at the local high school when my daughter was going there. They would march the kids out onto the football field to wait for hours in the hot sun and not let parents pick them up. It was crazy.
I think one of the students really didn't want to take math tests and was paying to disrupt the school.
Thankfully no one was hurt during any of the incidents.
I think one of the students really didn't want to take math tests and was paying to disrupt the school.
Thankfully no one was hurt during any of the incidents.
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This IS a reduced sentence due to age. He informed on his clients to avoid multiple charges that would have totaled decades.
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Yes, 4 years is absolutely slap-on-wrist in proportion to the suffering, anguish and costs incurred.
Does that sentence even take into account some of the very likely possibilities of aggressive response, including injury, death and property damage, nevermind what other legitimate responses were delayed or missed entirely.
Please PLEASE tell me that the victims are still free to individually file civil (?) lawsuits against this punk.
They would never get the money, obviously, but can counties file claims for overtime, etc.?
Bury this punk, and by doing so, send a much stronger message to his kind.
Does that sentence even take into account some of the very likely possibilities of aggressive response, including injury, death and property damage, nevermind what other legitimate responses were delayed or missed entirely.
Please PLEASE tell me that the victims are still free to individually file civil (?) lawsuits against this punk.
They would never get the money, obviously, but can counties file claims for overtime, etc.?
Bury this punk, and by doing so, send a much stronger message to his kind.
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I have long said that SWATTING is worse than attempted murder.
It is about trying to get someone killed, or traumatized in a large performative way.
It was very low risk for a long time.
It misuses government resources.
It is especially effective against minority folks.
This monster deserves WAY more than 4 years in a federal prison.
It is about trying to get someone killed, or traumatized in a large performative way.
It was very low risk for a long time.
It misuses government resources.
It is especially effective against minority folks.
This monster deserves WAY more than 4 years in a federal prison.
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As a counterpoint, I went to school with kids to DID set off bombs in the bathrooms. Small ones flushed down the toilet that exploded in the sewer pipes below, shutting down the entire school for a week. Multiple times, until they finally got caught.
But I suspect that threat of 4 years in jail wouldn't have changed anything for them, and "boys will be boys" isn't an appropriate response either. They later went on to doing things like stealing ATMs. Their parents were quite wealthy.
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It is time to play today's fun game Psychopath, Sociopath or just poorly raised.
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This is one of those where restitution should be exempt from bankruptcy.
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