Spider-Noir‘s final trailer leans into the deadpan humor
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Always a fan of Trek, I can't watch a lot of modern stuff that's fundamentally dystopian rather than utopian. That was a core identity of the series :<
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Did they actually listen to the lyrics before chooseing Amy Winehouse's back to black before choosing that track, or did they just listen to the chorus?
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I'm with you, but I don't get "edgy" here. I get "tired." Not Bill Murray tired. Nic Cage tired, which is different.
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Unfortunately dystopian is turning out to be closer to real life.
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Well, we get Spider-Ham one way or another.
Now makes me really curious what Nic Cage Superman would have been like.
Now makes me really curious what Nic Cage Superman would have been like.
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I mean if you look at what we know about Noir movies in general there might be more overlap than you'd expect. He's mourning a dead loved one, traditionally a wife or his "one". The song is about moving on from a lost love.
It's also possible it's tragic as she might have been a feme fatale who wasn't as in to him as he her, there are those in many noir stories. Which would keep inline with the screwing around theme.
You're right they probably chose it almost entirely for the chorus, but and again "Big Pinch of Salt" it's possible there's more accuracy in the lyrics if it hews close to a traditional noir storyline. We just don't know enough about everything to say for sure.
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I've said it before and I'll say it again: I am in the minority that will watch this in colour.
I saw way to much BW during my infancy. And it did not help matters that the dumbheaded govt of my country both fumbled and delayed the entry of colour TV by almost two lustres.
If it was shoot in colour, and there is a colour version available, I'll gladly watch that (but no Ted Turner artificialy colorized slop like in the '90s)
I saw way to much BW during my infancy. And it did not help matters that the dumbheaded govt of my country both fumbled and delayed the entry of colour TV by almost two lustres.
If it was shoot in colour, and there is a colour version available, I'll gladly watch that (but no Ted Turner artificialy colorized slop like in the '90s)
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In which case I suggest Metallica's "Enter Sandman."
Based purely on the title, as I don't recall how the tune goes.
Not just "Hardy," "Cat Hardy."
I, of course, thought "Thomas Hardy" then wandered off to look at cat pictures.
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Love the concept. Let's see how it works out in practise. I think I'll give the BW version a miss, I'm not that much of a fan of old Chandler films and time marches on, BW shooting was not an artistic choice, but a technological limitation. Until it became a choice of course and almost everyone quickly went colour anyways.
As others have pointed out in previous trailer comments, the BW version does not look like old Film Noir hard boiled detective films, but super-sharp high-def in black and white. You'd have to embrace the grainy fuzziness if you wanted to go full "pixel art".
As others have pointed out in previous trailer comments, the BW version does not look like old Film Noir hard boiled detective films, but super-sharp high-def in black and white. You'd have to embrace the grainy fuzziness if you wanted to go full "pixel art".
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Wow, I had no idea he was still around. Lukas will always be Samuel from Witness to me.
I'm surprisingly really looking forward to this, despite knowing full well how many awful movies Cage has been in over the last couple decades. Of course, he has also been in some that I absolutely loved. I honestly can't think of another actor with so many movies at the extreme ends of my person love/hate lists. From the trailers he seems perfectly cast in this, so fingers crossed!
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This is one of the silliest things to get annoyed about but man...
I do really dislike how the trailer subtitles (which are intended to be a replacement for closed captions) censor "dick" even in the context where like... it's appropriate (even if it's just a play on words). But also... closed captions are intended for the hard of hearing, so like... obfuscating the word is just silly when they're already speaking it out loud.
This isn't even the most egregious example of this, at least they use
d*** so you can guess which 4-letter word they mean. But things like replacing bastard with b[_]... Puritanism where there's no real need for it. They're already saying the words out loud, it's out there!!!
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The Spider-Verse movies were really a love letter to telling the same story over and over again. They were done well but in the end, that's just not something I love, no matter how nice the letter was. I think that applies here, too.
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And sharpness is just the tip of the iceberg regarding the technical differences baked into each form.
Bayer pattern color sensors are most sensitive to green light while black-and-white film tends to be slightly to significantly more sensitive to shorter wavelengths depending on the stock. You could slap a purple-ish filter on the lens to squash the curve into to a more correctly black-and-white color balance at the sensor, but then you'll lose green density in the adjustment back to neutral for the color release.
You also need to decorate the set and costume and paint your actors specifically for black and white. The sort of canonical example of this is Psycho's shower scene, where the effect that showed up on black and white film looking the most like fresh red blood was achieved using nearly-black chocolate syrup. And this complication applies to every color in front of the camera.
Now, compare a fine example of lighting and decorating for black and white shot on color in the theatrical cut of "The Man Who Wasn't There" -- probably the non-plus-ultra of this technique -- against the same film's full-spectrum color timed print included ion a bonus DV
One frame is beautiful and crated with intent and care to replicate the film noir mise en scene and guided by what is very obviously the Coens' heart-on-sleeve "Young Frankenstein"-style love of the genre. The other, despite starting out as the same piece of film shot by the same Roger Deakins pretty much universally regarded as one of our greatest working cinematographers, is a hideous and unfixable waste product of that artistry presented only as a curiosity.
Meanwhile, here's John Boorman's "Point Blank," the finest neo-noir ever filmed, doing a similar homage (though by way of Storarro rather than Alton) but with subtle, exquisite use of color. Doesn't look all that hot in black and white though:
These are incompatible processes and I wish Marvel had just let the production rent a dedicated monochrome camera and light the thing properly rather than have the exec suite double their pleasure, almost certainly by driving the studio's galley of VFX artists in double-time, to release this wonky-looking faux-Technicolor version in tandem.
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You do realize the genre is over a century old, right?
Film noir (and specifically the "hardboiled detective" genre) predates Avengers and Star Trek by a couple decades.
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I understand the technical filmmaking debates, but honestly I'm completely here for the black and white version.
Please be good.
Please be good.
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I grew up with B&W as that's all the TV my family could afford, so I get this sentiment and subtle trauma.
However, I'll still watch Spider-Noir in B&W first, if it was meant to be B&W.
The reason is that the old classics don't rely on color so I'm not missing out on cues, that are lost when watching films and shows that were written-for and filmed in color. So all of the old Toshiro Mifune films for example are perfectly fine; or slap sticks like Abbott & Costello.
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The Greatest Depression, everyone will be talking about how great it is! You won't have to worry about money or voting or groceries. It's an old word, groceries, and I'll make it older. -Trump
Black-and-white me intrigued!Colour me intrigued.
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I believe the poster was referring to overzealous filtration by closed captions.The Greatest Depression, everyone will be talking about how great it is! You won't have to worry about money or voting or groceries. It's an old word, groceries, and I'll make it older. -Trump
Black-and-white me intrigued!
Where do you see @graylshaped getting annoyed? "I'm in." seems like approval to me.
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That they are trying to achieve a noir style doesn't change the fact that this is a film planned and created in the modern day. The choice of noir supports the choice to be edgy, but it's a choice.
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I suspect that what I am going to end up doing is watching one episode in B&W and the other in color and decide which one to watch from there if not just alternating every episode. I love well executed black and white such as Werewolf by Night but there is certainly something about the saturated colors in the other format that appeals to me.
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"With no power comes no responsibility" wasn't that the tag-line for Clerks 2?
I think you have your versions of Ben Reilly confused. Scarlet Spider is the edgy one!
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Well, the song is complicated, because Winehouse was complicated. Essentially, she's burying her heart in the song because the man she loves only comes to her when he lacks more agreeable people to, as the song says, "wet his dick in", and when he finds someone more agreeable he leaves her alone. Again. And again. And again. And she never learns, because she loves him. The song is not noir. The song is depression and despair.
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