"I am not aware of anything that is extraterrestrial, other than comets and things like that."
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Space Command chief throws cold water on the question of UAPs in space
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The omnipresent nature of mobile/cell phones have proved aliens/UFOs/Loch Ness monster/your hot girl/boyfriend do not exit. Anyone claiming otherwise is a gullible idiot.
Douglas Adams once famously underestimated distance when he said "Space is big. Really big". Interstellar travel ain't gonna happen.
Douglas Adams once famously underestimated distance when he said "Space is big. Really big". Interstellar travel ain't gonna happen.
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Most of the acts are missing. It's just one big clown show these days.
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Nakamalkat
Smack-Fu Master, in training
Maybe I'm missing a subtle meta-joke here. Or you're quoting from a different movie/franchise, but wasn't James T Kirk from Iowa?
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Any future or alternative science has to be compatible with current science. Imagination is great and all, but it's also magical thinking, not rational reasoning.
Not everything is possible, especially just because you desperately want it to be.
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I'm clearly suffering from the effects of temporal distortion.
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Or to bring it right up to date... Bread... No.. Circuses... No... No.. Circuses... No... Ooh look something shiny... What was the question again?
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Uh, you're the one making the extraordinary claims that fall in the realm of fiction, not me. "Anything I can imagine could be true" is not a rational viewpoint; it's delusional.
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LOL! My brotha, this reference is likely scores prior to the birth of half these forum bums... I love it
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It sounds like you are referring to the videos debunked by NASA. The ones that include metadata with the video which makes it clear that those multiple decorated experienced navy pilots are still susceptible to illusions. And that if a person understands simple concepts such as parallax and bokeh, which ought to be familiar to any casual camera buff, that the flight profiles and energy usage actually depicted could be achieved by consumer grade drones or mylar party balloons.
As for myself, I am willing to believe that aluminized mylar is actually human tech.
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Seems like there’s a famous quote about that (Chesterton, maybe?). Never argue with a madman; when your opponent thinks he can make his own reality, you’re guaranteed to lose every argument.
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Wither the dreamers and scientists who attempt to think outside of the box.
I'll just leave this quote from Men in Black here:
"1500 years ago, everybody "knew" that the earth was the center of the universe. 500 years ago, everybody "knew" that the earth was flat. And 15 minutes ago, you "knew" that humans were alone on this planet. Imagine what you'll "know" tomorrow."
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Yeah. There was a video released not too long ago that showed a roughly pyramid-shaped object tumbling in the frame of what was pretty obviously a radar image. "Mystery object" was readily recognizable by me, thanks to previous radar experience - it was a corner retroreflector. It was even flashing in synchrony with the object's rotation, as its open side lined up with the incoming radar scan. Probably a bit of test kit that fell off the plane, or another nearby plane; they're often affixed for various purposes, like radar and other sensor calibration. The goofosphere, predictably, went wild over this, but it was the most prosaic of objects.
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1500/500 years ago there wasn't anything remotely like science. People also "knew" there were gods and unicorns and magical swords. What's your point?
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Her planet of origin is unknown. However, we do know that she grew up on Frogstar World B, but the inhabitants of World B found her to be too deplorable for that planet and exiled her to Ferenginar. The Ferengi, recognizing her innate capacity for greed and sycophancy, tried to train her for the position of Head of Commerce. But it turned out that she was too stupid to memorize the Rules of Acquisition. So they banished her to Cardassia Prime. However, immediately upon arrival, the Cardassians rejected her as "a threat to the moral fiber of Cardassia" and that her presence on Cardassia Prime represented an insidious threat to their way of life. The Cardassians sent her to Kurill Prime, but the Vorta just plain hated her and found her to be intolerably disgusting. However, the Vorta, being the conniving species they are, decided to weaponize her and send her to Earth as an agent of destruction.
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So the Greeks, et al. did nothing remotely like science? That's an interesting take.
If your point is that nothing back then matches current science because it's vastly different, then yeah you're also validating the gist of the movie quote while at the same time contradicting yourself (remember when you said "Any future or alternative science has to be compatible with current science")?
It's ok for us to have different views of where science is and where its going. But not everything is impossible, especially just because you have convinced yourself it is.
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This administration will never admit that she and most other members of the Executive branch are lizard-people.
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Yes, it's a huge missed opportunity for Space Force to break out with some sweet Star Trek rank-by-color unitards.
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First, there are already theoretical physics warp bubble solutions that let you effectively travel beyond the speed of light (though either with negative energy or insane energy required).
But, more to the point, you omit a key phrase...
"Since speed of light in a vacuum is a constant everywhere in the universe ACCORDING TO OUR CURRENT UNDERSTANDING OF PHYSICS..."
To assume we are 100% certain about anything in physics is the height of hubris. In 1000 years, will we have the same "laws"? 10000? Just 125 years ago, we had radically different laws in every facet of physics, but we now say that THIS is the ultimate law?
The reported, documented behavior of these sightings by highly credible witnesses and sensors break the known laws.
You say that means that the witnesses and sensors are all lying for some reason. Throw out the data that does not conform to our comfortable knowledge.
I am saying the known laws may be incomplete and there is more to learn in this universe than the current human knowledge base.
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Dunno. I’ve seen some interesting robotics coming out of China. The facial tech is still stuck in the uncanny valley though.
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There are already solutions that are compatible with existing observations that would allow the kind of behavior.
Reverse the question...how do you explain the behavior of sitings that violate known laws of physics? Just disparage the multiple decorated naval jet fighter pilots who witnessed it along with the camera footage, radar traces,etc as a vast conspiracy of liars?
Or do you take data that breaks your model and say "hmmm, how do I adjust the model to fit the new data?"
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I think that the work of Pythagoras, Thales of Miletus, Archimedes, and Euclid were all very much doing things like today's science. One might also mention Aristotle, who definitely focused on empirical data, fastidious classification, and logic as paths to understanding the world.
And after the Greeks, and longer than a thousand years ago, philosophers began to formalize logic and started advanced mathematics.
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How do you explain your repeated ignoring of the debunking of that evidence by various competent sources, including NASA?
3 ways scientists use math to help debunk UFO videos
Ooh, and here's a military source:
All-domain Anomaly Resolution Office
U.S. Department of Defense
Case: “Go Fast”
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new species are identified all the time, and it's never "OMG THAT CAN'T EXIST" but rather "yes, that makes sense given the data and our current understanding of biology". If actual scientific data was provided, I think we'd have no problem accepting that Sasquatch/Ogopogo/Nessie/whatever exist and fit into evolutionary processes. But "here's a crappy blurry video that was scanned from a scratched 16mm reel that survived a fire" isn't the same as "here's a skeleton/fossil/DNA sample".
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