Sonos CEO admits to insufficient app testing : “We released it too soon”

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The biggest reason I avoided Sonos, when I was originally considering them, is because they were proprietary. I opted, instead, to assemble my own system the traditional way, with speakers, a receiver, and (at the time) a Squeezebox 2. That was a fantastic setup, and even when Logitech discontinued the whole Squeezebox line, the server software stayed available. (It's still being worked on today, although with its lack of hardware players, it's not very attractive anymore.)

I'm still using the same speakers, with a different receiver and subwoofer, and I now drive them with my PC instead of a dedicated player. Buying standard components has let me replace each piece when I was ready. I can still sub out any piece, twenty years later. Everything is interoperable, nobody can lock me into anything. Even all my archived music is in FLAC format, which works almost anywhere, and can be easily converted to any lossy format as needed.

I can substitute anything, and nobody can decide to wreck my system for their benefit. It's not turnkey like a Sonos, but is superior in pretty much every other way. It just took some effort. I had to plan the system out before buying, I couldn't just show up with a credit card.

I don't remember the detailed cost analysis anymore, but I think it was also a lot cheaper than a Sonos.
Everything you said.

I'm a Squeezebox user for all the same reasons - the community which is now Lyrion - is amazing.

A note on hardware players that the WIIM products seem to be an excellent option at present, supporting Squeezebox along with a pile of other protocols (like Spotify connect and Tidal Connect along with Chromecasting audio, Airplay and bluetooth) at very good value prices.

A point to note is that the Server software has been open source for a very long time, which along with some talented and committed contributors has kept it stable and adding features for years.
I'll call out Michael Herger specifically, who seems to be a total superhero - seemingly from (past/present?) Logitech, who is omniscient.
 
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So you mean full A/V? We'll there'd Jellyfin, various DLNA services that can be used as well. But I take you're point, it's not a fully integrated system in the same way.

But if squeezebox is nearly non-functional due to no hardware anymore, at least for music (what I associate for Sonos), Snapcast works nicely IMO.
Squeezebox isn't non-functional due to lack of hardware - the hardware just no longer comes with a Logitech badge on.
The server software can play to:
• Any AV receiver or streaming DAC that supports DLNA (ie all of them)
• Dedicated new hardware from Polyvection (the DAC32).
• Multiple new WIIM devices (players and integrated amps) at several price points, which support many other protocols too.
• Any Android or IOS device.
• Any Windows, Mac or Linux PC including Raspberry PI type SBCs and tiny ESP32 SBCs.

What I especially enjoy is that it seamlessly integrates my local FLAC library with online streaming services.
 
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