hobgoblin":2q3bcdks said:
hairyfeet":2q3bcdks said:
Now contrast this with SSDs where the rule and not the exception is to have no warning at all, just flip the switch and its dead. often even BIOS no longer detects it, its just gone.
Sounds to me more like a controller failure than a catastrophic nand failure. Something similar can happen on HDDs. Hell, the impression i get is that it may well be the most common HDD failure these days rather than out and out mechanical failure.
At the little shop i run I find that just isn't the case, most HDDs give you a LOT of warning before they die unless you do something REALLY bad like drop it off a table while running. Here is what I have found to be the usual course of events..1.-First the heat level rises, this may be noticed in a laptop, not on a desktop, 2.- Then comes the most telling error, the "Delayed write fail" error, you get this one that is your early warning to get that drive outta there! this is finally followed by 3.-Whine and or clicks, although new Seagate tend to chirp like a cricket and then finally 4.-Dead drive. Now while these events CAN progress rapidly, especially if you continue to really push the machine, most folks when they see delayed write fail shut it down and bring it to me and I don't fire it back up until its time to transfer the data to the new drive so there is no problem.
Contrast this with an SSD fail which I've seen several times and consists of 1.-Flip the switch and nothing happens. That's it, no warning, no tell tale signs, its just over. And I had a customer that wanted his data back bad enough to buy an identical for me to try the old controller swap trick like we used to do on dead HDDs and I never could get it to work again. Maybe when the controller goes it takes something with it, I couldn't see anything burnt on the surface but I wasn't gonna strip the whole thing down to check so who knows.
So until they can give us some sort of self check for SSDs that give us SOMETHING, anything, some warning there is trouble, my advice is that unless the customer is in a niche where they have to carry around a running unit its better to max out the RAM and use Readyboost for faster small I/Os, SSDs are still just too buggy to be trusted.